adamkpm 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt Pot Limit Omaha $150/$300 - 5 playersUTG: $5,796.00 CO: $1,030.00 Button: $21,620.00 (Hero)SB: $8,419.00 BB: $26,696.00 Preflop: ($450.00) Hero is Button with (5 players)BB calls $300, UTG calls $300, CO folds, Hero calls $300, undefined folds, SB checksFlop: ($1,350.00) :D (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1,350, Hero raises to $5,400, SB folds, BB raises to $9,450, UTG calls $4,146, and is all in, Hero raises to $21,320, and is all in, BB calls $11,870Turn: ($49,486.00) (2 players)River: ($49,486.00) (2 players)UTG showed , and won (17,838) with a straight, Jack highHero showed , and lost with three of a kind, EightsBB showed :qh, and won (31,648) with three of a kind, NinesUTG won $17,838BB won $31,648(Rake: $0)To top it off this was the bubble.Is this the worse played hand or what. Where's my godamn hat!! Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I would like to state for the record that I was present for this train wreck and I suggested a fold once the BB c/3bet... what can I say... I'm a nit Link to post Share on other sites
adamkpm 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 I would like to state for the record that I was present for this train wreck and I suggested a fold once the BB c/3bet... what can I say... I'm a nit James 8:02 pmare you deep in anything?kimboho2 8:03 pmyhour momOHHHHHHJames 8:03 pminappropriateAlso, I had a set, i'm like never folding ldo Link to post Share on other sites
scottyno 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 what are you trying to flop with a888 rainbowedit: or is that the 6 of spades, not that it makes it much better Link to post Share on other sites
adamkpm 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 what are you trying to flop with a888 rainbowedit: or is that the 6 of spades, not that it makes it much betterIt's the 6 of spades. Also this is not the strat thread, just berate me for sucking and move on. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thats a pretty terrible hand. Link to post Share on other sites
adamkpm 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thats a pretty terrible hand.thank you Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Yeah but adams real sexyedit: kpm, not fargodouble edit: well okay you're both sexy Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 It's the 6 of spades. Also this is not the strat thread, just berate me for sucking and move on.Fold or pot pre. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thats a pretty terrible hand. Yeah but adams real sexyedit: kpm, not fargodouble edit: well okay you're both sexyFargo > Kpm tho Link to post Share on other sites
adamkpm 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Yeah but adams real sexyedit: kpm, not fargodouble edit: well okay you're both sexyCouldn't agree moreFargo < Kpm thofyp Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Fold or pot pre.When you do play a hand...theres no need to always pot too btw... Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 lol its just plo Link to post Share on other sites
JustLikeNegs 1 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 When you do play a hand...theres no need to always pot too btw...pretty sure there is every need! Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt Pot Limit Omaha $150/$300 - 5 playersUTG: $5,796.00 CO: $1,030.00 Button: $21,620.00 (Hero)SB: $8,419.00 BB: $26,696.00 Preflop: ($450.00) Hero is Button with (5 players)BB calls $300, UTG calls $300, CO folds, Hero calls $300, undefined folds, SB checksFlop: ($1,350.00) :D (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1,350, Hero raises to $5,400, SB folds, BB raises to $9,450, UTG calls $4,146, and is all in, Hero raises to $21,320, and is all in, BB calls $11,870Turn: ($49,486.00) (2 players)River: ($49,486.00) (2 players)UTG showed , and won (17,838) with a straight, Jack highHero showed , and lost with three of a kind, EightsBB showed :qh, and won (31,648) with three of a kind, NinesUTG won $17,838BB won $31,648(Rake: $0)To top it off this was the bubble.Is this the worse played hand or what. Where's my godamn hat!!Fold Pre, you hand has absolutely no value unless you hit a set. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 When you do play a hand...theres no need to always pot too btw...5 handed with the puck and THAT particular holding. I think limping is easily the worst decision. I'm not saying the raise is > fold by any stretch, nor am I saying limp can't be utilized. Link to post Share on other sites
JustLikeNegs 1 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 pretty sure the kid had a wrap. lay off him! Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 5 handed with the puck and THAT particular holding. I think limping is easily the worst decision. I'm not saying the raise is > fold by any stretch, nor am I saying limp can't be utilized.fargo was just saying that you can raise an amount that is not pot... ie 3x or whatev vs a limper Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 fargo was just saying that you can raise an amount that is not pot... ie 3x or whatev vs a limpertoooooooooshay!!I half responded just to validate my general thought on the matter. I think this post is like my single strat discussioning for the month Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 fargo was just saying that you can raise an amount that is not pot... ie 3x or whatev vs a limperYou know me FAR too well!!! Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 You know me FAR too well!!! ahhh miss you <3This reminds me though of an interesting point that Dani "ansky" Stern brought up during the WSOP. He played a lot of events including most of the PLO and PLH events. What about making a game "pot-limit" makes people so anal about bet sizing? In a NL tourney, the avg bets are 50-75% of pot. You put those same people in a pot-limit hold'em tournament and everyone starts saying pot. Coupled with the fact that it's a live tournament and people don't keep track of the size of the pot, the dealer is always having to count it down. It really slows down the game.I do understand that in PLO you often want to bet the "maximum" to charge all those crazy drawing hands.Fargo, did you notice such things during your PLO tournament adventure this summer? Do the dealers keep track of the pot pretty well or do they keep it stacked for easier guesstimates/counting? I've never played a pot-limit anything tournament live. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 ahhh miss you <3This reminds me though of an interesting point that Dani "ansky" Stern brought up during the WSOP. He played a lot of events including most of the PLO and PLH events. What about making a game "pot-limit" makes people so anal about bet sizing? In a NL tourney, the avg bets are 50-75% of pot. You put those same people in a pot-limit hold'em tournament and everyone starts saying pot. Coupled with the fact that it's a live tournament and people don't keep track of the size of the pot, the dealer is always having to count it down. It really slows down the game.I do understand that in PLO you often want to bet the "maximum" to charge all those crazy drawing hands.Fargo, did you notice such things during your PLO tournament adventure this summer? Do the dealers keep track of the pot pretty well or do they keep it stacked for easier guesstimates/counting? I've never played a pot-limit anything tournament live.Good call. I think I just used the word 'pot' in my post interchangibly with 'bet'. This will definitely have me paying attention to make sure I'm not just blindly potting in all bet situations, I don't think so but definitely want to make sure.....as asnky makes a very solid statement. Granted I've been playing a lot of limit h/l lately, so it hasn't be applicable. Yeah, I've still never played live PLO. Sadly no game exists that is in my comfort zone. I'm still so sad that I didn't get really into PLO until after the electronic tables at excalibur were taken down I think that would be the perfect mix of live and computer where I would just steamroll fools Link to post Share on other sites
WordsOfTheProphet 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I would like to state for the record that I was present for this train wreck and I suggested a fold once the BB c/3bet... what can I say... I'm a nit The dude got unlucky, PLO is just swingy like that, hope you have better luck next time!Anyway I don't think your suggestion was that bad, but as for alot decisions in poker, the call is defendable aswell. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I just dunno what hands we're hoping villain turns over here? even wraps and top 2+str8 draw and stuff has pretty decent equity and that's the very marginal bottom end of their stacking off range Link to post Share on other sites
Stiles2004 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Why is BB calling pre and SB checking? Link to post Share on other sites
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