Lots Of Draws; Got Bold; But Now What?

[dunit421 0]

So this is my first post to this forum, and since it seems that people have no problem giving their true bare bones opinion about how to handle a play, I waited until I found a good one to get some advice on, lol. I am still kind of new to playing draws, so I am not quite sure how to properly handle them overall.In this hand, I was still kind of fresh playing at the table, but in waiting for the blinds to come to me I knew the SB was LAg and the BB was TAg, and their big stacks were going to call any preflop shenanigans I might try. I came in small at only 50BB, and only a couple hands earlier had my pocket Js ruined by the SB with an outdraw. The other players were weak tight so the blinds were eating them up, so in this case my main intention was to feel out how they reacted to an attempted steal if the opportunity arises since it seems they had yet to have anyone stand up to them (I saw min bets take pots), but something else happened lolI elected to "play it safe" and limp in to reduce any loses with this preflop hand which was probably mistake #1 (if I am going to steal, maybe I should fake a bigger hand pre-flop). Thankfully, my preflop mistake doesn't really enter into it this time (or maybe it does because it hides SB's hand), but here is the hand overall:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG ($5)MP ($1.57)Hero (CO) ($0.46)Button ($2)SB ($5.04)BB ($6.37)Preflop: Hero is CO with 4, 62 folds, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, BB checksFlop: ($0.06) 9, 3, 7(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.06) 8(3 players)SB bets $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, SB raises to $0.10Now what?Old me says fold, new me says call, little voice in the back of my head says all-in...He could have many hands but few that seem capable of beating a flush or a straight, short of J/10 or a higher flush draw, but initial bet makes me think he was min stealing again, and the reraise of my reraise seems like bullying or defense of a weak pair or two.Suggestions?

[KingJames 11]

Raise preflop or fold. Open limping is a sin in 6max NLHEWhy did you raise the turn? (this is a real question; were you trying to make a better hand fold, or make a worse hand call?) If you're going to raise the turn, raise it big, .12 or soAs played you have to call for .04 more, but we're only really happy with a or 5, so crap spotDon't open-limp! Raise or fold!

[Ninja Ace 1]

he's not folding. supereasy callalso KJ nailed itone more thing... when you hit the straight you can only play it for one bet

[dunit421 0]

Raise preflop or fold. Open limping is a sin in 6max NLHEWhy did you raise the turn? (this is a real question; were you trying to make a better hand fold, or make a worse hand call?) If you're going to raise the turn, raise it big, .12 or soAs played you have to call for .04 more, but we're only really happy with a or 5, so crap spotDon't open-limp! Raise or fold!

Ya, I should add I am new to cash games and 6 handed. I am much better at MTT and am trying to learn how to loosen my game a little (hence the limp since that is not a hand i feel strong with) and learn cash games which seem to be a much different beast. This might be like jumping in the deep end of the pool without knowing how to swim for me, lol, but gotta learn somehow I guess.With the pot so small (.06), and the bet so small (.02), I thought I was trying to make a better hand fold. At the risk of sounding stupid, why .12? I can totally see it working in most cases (it's 1.5xthe current pot), but I want to know how to figure that out in future cases. Should it always be that ratio? 1.5:1 or is it 6x the SB bet?After reading another recent post, I am thinking my betting for cash games in general is way off whack in addition to my newbie 6-handed skills. I usually do a pretty set bet based on position, with the field of cards changing as I get later in position. My pre-flop bets range from 2-3xBB which works fine for my tight aggressiveness in MTT. I guess I ought to ask, what should they be in cash games, and does it matter that I am playing them at such low stakes?

[Ninja Ace 1]

If you're open limping I would not describe your game as tight aggressive.It'd do you good to read the FAQ

[KingJames 11]

raising the turn to .12 is pot, .06 + .02 (his bet) + .02 (your call) = .10 + .02 (your call) = you make it .12, ya dig?Also, at 2nl raise pot preflop (3.5x) or 4x + 1bb for each limper

[dunit421 0]

@KingJames: Never really put it together like that, thank you!! That will probably fix a lot of problems I am having since my math is not including bets, only what is already there in the middle (which now seems kinda stupid when you put it like that lol). I am self taught on everything so I am definitely still rough around the edges.@ NinjaAce: I said, I "am trying to learn how to loosen my game a little (hence the limp since that is not a hand i feel strong with)" before I said I play tight aggressive in MTT. This play was an attempt at that. I never even play 46 suited normally.

[KingJames 11]

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[Ninja Ace 1]

@ NinjaAce: I said, I "am trying to learn how to loosen my game a little (hence the limp since that is not a hand i feel strong with)" before I said I play tight aggressive in MTT. This play was an attempt at that. I never even play 46 suited normally.

A pretty good general rule... if you can't play the hand aggressively then don't play it

[rrumsey 0]

Raise preflop or fold. Open limping is a sin in 6max NLHEWhy did you raise the turn? (this is a real question; were you trying to make a better hand fold, or make a worse hand call?) If you're going to raise the turn, raise it big, .12 or soAs played you have to call for .04 more, but we're only really happy with a or 5, so crap spotDon't open-limp! Raise or fold!

i mean, it is almost as bad as checking down the nuts imo!