Question About Chopping In Live Cash

[vbnautilus 48]

100% This.The rake in lower limit games is very difficult to beat. I played a 1-3 NL game the other day and the rake was 4 plus 1 for the BBJ. So If the pot was limped, and I bet the flop to a fold I would get $1 back. It would cost me $2. In the long run it is more profitable to chop. If the casino allow it, you should chop every time, regardless of the cards you hold.EDIT: I chopped w/ AK suited that night.

Yeah its like this where I play too. At 2/3 if a flop is seen they take $5 so you are playing for $1 if the SB limps. Not chopping is considered bad etiquette because you are essentially donating the other player's blinds to the house, and there is no money to play for in the pot. You have to either raise or chop.

[Fluffdog87 2]

I have found that as long as you let the table know ahead of time what your stance on chopping is, and as long as you are consistent with it (always chopping or never chopping) then most players are fine with it. Sure some players will be a little put off that the BVB hands must get played out, but it tends to be only the old, tight, passive players and even for them it is only a minor irritation.At my casino, it is fairly standard to chop, and although I don't like it, I have made a compromise: I am always willing to chop if we are playing more than 5-handed, but never chop if we are playing 5-handed or less. Also once a player denies a chop with me, we never chop after that.

ThisI never chop my blinds and I tell them that if the spot comes up. Be clear either way.

[El Guapo 8]

ThisI never chop my blinds and I tell them that if the spot comes up. Be clear either way.

Which is fine. But how often are you playing 1-2 to 2-5? You usually are playing a bit higher than that at least, which is a completely different conversation.

[Fluffdog87 2]

Which is fine. But how often are you playing 1-2 to 2-5? You usually are playing a bit higher than that at least, which is a completely different conversation.

If I play lower with friends live I dn't chop either.

[lurbz 2]

lol at 'el choppo'

[NoSup4U 0]

IMO:I 100% agree that looking at your hand and deciding if you want to chop that hand specifically and then not chop a later hand is totally fair, doesn't angleshoot anyone, etc. It makes no logical sense not to. If someone doesn't like this, they can EASILY fix the problem: They can just say, ok well I'm not ok with you deciding each hand, so let's just never chop. Problem solved.But in the real world people get their panties in all kinds of bunches about people always needing to be consistent about chopping not because they think it's 'fair' but because they WANT to chop. And they know that you're getting a huge advantage over them if you selectively chop but they always chop. But they don't take the time to figure out that they should just selectively chop too and all is fair. Or just say ok then we won't chop at all. And I think they get so worked up about this, that it isn't worth trying to educate the masses.So you should just tell the guy if you want to chop always, or never chop. Ideally you can sucker the guy on your left into chopping but not chop with the guy on your right though :)Also if someone just assumed I chopped and took their money back, I'd say "Oh I'm sorry I don't chop" and then wait for the dealer to get their blind and give it to me. (I never chop unless I'm feeling really lazy or playing super low stakes)Mark

[hank213 1,823]

IMO:I 100% agree that looking at your hand and deciding if you want to chop that hand specifically and then not chop a later hand is totally fair, doesn't angleshoot anyone, etc. It makes no logical sense not to. If someone doesn't like this, they can EASILY fix the problem: They can just say, ok well I'm not ok with you deciding each hand, so let's just never chop. Problem solved.But in the real world people get their panties in all kinds of bunches about people always needing to be consistent about chopping not because they think it's 'fair' but because they WANT to chop. And they know that you're getting a huge advantage over them if you selectively chop but they always chop. But they don't take the time to figure out that they should just selectively chop too and all is fair. Or just say ok then we won't chop at all. And I think they get so worked up about this, that it isn't worth trying to educate the masses.So you should just tell the guy if you want to chop always, or never chop. Ideally you can sucker the guy on your left into chopping but not chop with the guy on your right though :)Also if someone just assumed I chopped and took their money back, I'd say "Oh I'm sorry I don't chop" and then wait for the dealer to get their blind and give it to me. (I never chop unless I'm feeling really lazy or playing super low stakes)Mark

I'm pretty sure it was already stated in here that the "always/never chop" etiquette really should apply only at low stakes as the rake at 1/3nlhe can be something like 2bb for a hand going to showdown.