obs 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Rip me up:Ultimate Bet 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is Button with J:heart:, Q:club:. 1 fold, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.Flop: (8 SB) T:club:, 9:club:, 6:club: (4 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.Turn: (12 BB) T:spade: (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.River: (16 BB) 9:diamond: (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls, MP calls.Final Pot: 19 BB Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Why bet river here? I think someone has at least Kc. Link to post Share on other sites
obs 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Why bet river here? I think someone has at least Kc.I was in some fairly land where this was heads up and had some fold equity. Yea, it is dumb. I also should have considered taking a free turn card. Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Toto, we're not in kansas anymore :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Why are we betting the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 C/C the turn, C/F the river. Link to post Share on other sites
obs 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Why are we betting the turn?Because I figured I had 11-12 outs and getting 3:1 on my money is still pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 and why cap the flop? He 3-bet after you raised on this extremely coordinated board. I doubt your Q high flush is good...if it even gets there. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 first, you only have the 3rd nut flush draw. That makes your equity go severely down.You have the chance to take a free card, use it.The river bet is probably the worst part of the hand. Link to post Share on other sites
obs 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 and why cap the flop? He 3-bet after you raised on this extremely coordinated board. I doubt your Q high flush is good...if it even gets there.If it had gone bet, raise, call then I would probably think that. However, with only 1 bet I have no reason to assume anyone has the flush yet. Even the 3-bet doesn't say much. The turn bet is marginal at best. Probably still -EV. The river bet is horrid I agree. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 definately take the free card on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
obs 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Another thing, the short handed games on UB seem extremely nice. A lot of weak players folding the turn and river. Probably what led to my river bet. Running at 10BB/100 just seems to do that sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 raise preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
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