pokerspice 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I'm sorry but I just have to share this... I was playing 2-5 limit hold-em at the casino on New Years Day, and I was just having a horrible day. I told myself that i was only going to play with $60 for the day (obviously i'm not a pro, not even really an amature yet :wink: ) so i'm sitting the table with $5 in chips left. I wasn't feeling to bad about it, b/c that's all I wanted to play if I was losing money. So i'm looking for a hand that maybe I can double up on. And then I'm dealt pockets 9s. I call the two dollars to see the flop. The flop comes Q 9 9... QUADS... I bet two dollars, and i'm playing heads up and the guy pushes me in for my last dollar. I call and turn over my cards and everyone's in shock... what a fantastic feeling... turns out that the other player had a Q, and the turn would have come another Q giving him the boat... if only I had more money, oh the pot that could have been... that started my come back and I walked out after a five hour session with three times as much money as I walked in with. Not bad for my second time at the casino. Just wanted to share that with everyone, b/c it sure made my day... and hopefully will be the start of a great year!!! Link to post Share on other sites
l0nd0n3 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 nice one. It is nice to see those hands when you are short stacked. But it would be better if you were the chip leader. Link to post Share on other sites
Kris Kringle 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hands like that are exactly the reason you don't want to play short-stacked. Even if you plan on leaving soon, or are only willing to lose a pre-determined amount, it's not real bright to buy-in short ,or let your stack get too low. If you're gonna leave, then leave, but if you're still playing hands then you need to be prepared to act when a rare oppurtunity such as this presents itself. You never know when you'll be dealt a straight-flush or some other top-flight hand, and find yourself against a lesser hand who insists on raising you over and over again. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. In fact, it happened to me just the other day. I was in the blind with A-7, and the flop comes A-7-2 (two hearts). I bet out, and got called. The next card was a black 4, and i bet out again. Last card comes, the Ace of hearts. I figure the guy might have been on a flush draw, but so what, i made my full house! So i bet out again, and sure enough, this time i got raised. So i re-raised, and he re-raised me back. I stopped to look at the board again. There's no straight-flush possible, as the three hearts on board were A-2-7. He couldn't have quads, since i had an Ace. So the best possible hand he could've had was A-7, same as me, and i thought it just as likely he had A-4 or A-2...so i kept raising, and he kept raising me back. Must've done it 5 or 6 times. He eventually just called, and then turns over pocket 2's (???) for 2's full of Aces. Then he tells me, "i thought you just had three Aces." Unbelieveable... Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Then he tells me, "i thought you just had three Aces." Unbelieveable...What's crazy is that he didn't think you had an overset. It's not that crazy for him not to think of A7 there. Link to post Share on other sites
Kris Kringle 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Who knows what these people are thinking? Unless you've played with somebody before (or have been at the table for a while), you never really know. My point is simply that you shouldn't play short-stacked. I used to play with a guy who would always buy-in for the minimum. He'd lose that, and then buy-in for the minimum again...he might do that 3 or 4 times in a single session. I remember thinking to myself, "sooner or later that guy's gonna get a straight-flush, and he won't have money to bet with." Bad situation to be in. Link to post Share on other sites
JPWydman 0 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Thats why I always keep a couple 20's under my chips when playing live at a casino. Most have the rule money on the table plays, so if I find myself short stacked and in a big pot I'm about to win, I'm going to get every penny out of it that I can. I can appreciate your 60 dollar rule though, setting a limit when playing cards for entertainment purposes only keeps it fun and safe. Congrats on your rake!! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I'm sorry but I just have to share this... I was playing 2-5 limit hold-em at the casino on New Years Day, and I was just having a horrible day. I told myself that i was only going to play with $60 for the day (obviously i'm not a pro, not even really an amature yet :wink: ) so i'm sitting the table with $5 in chips left. I wasn't feeling to bad about it, b/c that's all I wanted to play if I was losing money. So i'm looking for a hand that maybe I can double up on. And then I'm dealt pockets 9s. I call the two dollars to see the flop. The flop comes Q 9 9... QUADS... I bet two dollars, and i'm playing heads up and the guy pushes me in for my last dollar. I call and turn over my cards and everyone's in shock... what a fantastic feeling... turns out that the other player had a Q, and the turn would have come another Q giving him the boat... if only I had more money, oh the pot that could have been... that started my come back and I walked out after a five hour session with three times as much money as I walked in with. Not bad for my second time at the casino. Just wanted to share that with everyone, b/c it sure made my day... and hopefully will be the start of a great year!!!I had Q J and flop came K 10 A , and I didnt announce it to the world...You'll have a lot of flops like that Link to post Share on other sites
PlzFoldNow 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I had Q J and flop came K 10 A , and I didnt announce it to the world...You'll have a lot of flops like thatYou just did... Link to post Share on other sites
Adryal 0 Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 My first time ever in a casino, actually ever playing for money was shortly after the WSOP where Carlos Mortenson won. At that point, I didn't even see Rounders yet. I had to read the rule before ever sitting down.Anyway, I was playing a 2/4 in Shreveport when I got pocket 10's in the hole and hit Quad's on ....The turn (I think, maybe on the flop) but, knowing little to nothing about the game I really don't remember how I played it. I believed I mostly called others players bets. They all put me on 2 pair (I Think) again, it was my first time playing, and I didn't read the board to see the what if's. All I knew is that I had a good hand. So my big error in the hand was that I thought the betting was over and I flashed my cards and showed my hand. It turns out there were 2 others that hadn't bet and of course they folded. One said I would have gotten another $16 out of him.Oh well, lesson learned. I just hope one day I'll be able to practice what I learned from that day. Link to post Share on other sites
TylerBeal 0 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 2/5? Must be casino rama right? Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 This hand is used as justification for playing with a big stack, but I think thats wrong in a full table ring game where all players are of equal ability.99 is a drawing hand that is likely to face at least a few callers. With a drawing hand you would rather be in a position to see all 5 board cards without further money at risk...ie you would rather be all in and short stacked.With a power hand AA, KK, maybe QQ that is going to be calling all the way almost all of the time without improvement you would rather have a big stack so that you can manipulate pot odds and cash in since you are favored against any number of callers.Since there are far more drawing hands than power hands the balance lies in favor of playing short stacked. There is probably an optimal number of blinds for the size of your initial stack, and that should be on the short rather than long side.Of course if you are a significantly better player than average at the table you would much rather have (and face) deep stacks, and if you are inferior you would much rather be short stacked so you can just play by the pre-flop numbers and be all in without decisions to make later. Link to post Share on other sites
P. Bibby 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I see a lot of this in live play.. including a perfect example today. I was waiting to get into a game and watching the players. One player had only enough for one big bet. Somebody raises preflop and he can only call with his kings. The flop comes K-9-2 rainbow, and players start betting and raising. (I think one had queens and one had AK) They build a huge pot, and our guy wins only a small fraction of it. My belief is that you should reload even if you don't plan to put that money in play, just in case. I like the idea of the twenties under the chips. Link to post Share on other sites
joshuathomas 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I'm sorry but I just have to share this... I was playing 2-5 limit hold-em at the casino on New Years Day, and I was just having a horrible day. I told myself that i was only going to play with $60 for the day (obviously i'm not a pro, not even really an amature yet :wink: ) so i'm sitting the table with $5 in chips left. I wasn't feeling to bad about it, b/c that's all I wanted to play if I was losing money. So i'm looking for a hand that maybe I can double up on. And then I'm dealt pockets 9s. I call the two dollars to see the flop. The flop comes Q 9 9... QUADS... I bet two dollars, and i'm playing heads up and the guy pushes me in for my last dollar. I call and turn over my cards and everyone's in shock... what a fantastic feeling... turns out that the other player had a Q, and the turn would have come another Q giving him the boat... if only I had more money, oh the pot that could have been... that started my come back and I walked out after a five hour session with three times as much money as I walked in with. Not bad for my second time at the casino. Just wanted to share that with everyone, b/c it sure made my day... and hopefully will be the start of a great year!!! :twisted: WTG guy. But no biggy, and yea too bad you didnt have more $$$$ left.. :twisted: Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I dont understand why you didnt jam the pot pre-flop with only 5 dollars to lose. Dont let them see the pot for 2 dollars and out-draw you. Also, if you are heads up, do not bet out when the board is paired if you have quads!!! What if he folds???You only had 3 dollars left, check it, let him bet, call, then just move all in on the turn to guarantee your 5 dollars gets reciprocated by him. Link to post Share on other sites
MrConceit 0 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I'm sorry but I just have to share this... .....The flop comes Q 9 9... QUADS... I bet two dollars, and i'm playing heads up and the guy pushes me in for my last dollar. I call and turn over my cards and everyone's in shock... what a fantastic feeling...I had Q J and flop came K 10 A , and I didnt announce it to the world...You'll have a lot of flops like thatGeez, that was pretty mean. The guy is obviously new to the game, and he got his first quads. And I'm amused you think you flop royals all the time. I've had royals perhaps 10 times total ever in 45k hands? If that many? I'm too lazy to go into tracker and add all the various limits together so I could see. And that's all five cards, as opposed to flopping the royal. Sure SFs are more common, and Quads far far more common than that. But it was his FIRST. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerspice 0 Posted January 28, 2005 Author Share Posted January 28, 2005 Truth is guys, that i've been playing for about four months, and mostly at home games with my boyfriend and his friends who have been playing for much longer than i have. I was getting used to donating my money to the boys, and generally not feeling great about my game. I've learned alot in the last month, since i have been reading this site, and playing online... i've realized that being short-stacked was stupid, and that quads come around more than i thought... It was my one of my first huge hands, give me a break guys, and congratulate a girl on her hand would you....(ya it was at Rama) Link to post Share on other sites
vegasholdem 0 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 when you hold paired holecards; it's 707 to 1 against flopping Quadz! Nice Job. Link to post Share on other sites
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