FARGOpokerND 22 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about here.He is a nearly as good of a player as Snamuh, if not of equal caliber.If he sees a soft game he sits and mops it up, as evidenced by that HHIf only I could play like him... Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 i'm here all week man. .. . . .1-the person doing the staking2-the people accepting the staking3-the reason for the stakingThere is like an A-E for all of those for reasons why, but I think you're leveling me anyway so we're done here Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 1-the person doing the staking2-the people accepting the staking3-the reason for the stakingThere is like an A-E for all of those for reasons why, but I think you're leveling me anyway so we're done hereWhys can I not has the stake? Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 PokerStars Game #22135821041: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2008/11/17 21:35:24 ETTable '120443479 109' 9-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: duckblind62 (2955 in chips) Seat 2: wltlt (6240 in chips) Seat 3: HonkyDonk (3285 in chips) Seat 4: specbrad (3260 in chips) Seat 6: superrex111 (10750 in chips) Seat 7: Vat21 (6625 in chips) Seat 8: Got AMG? (3155 in chips) Seat 9: takman65 (3475 in chips) Got AMG?: posts small blind 20takman65: posts big blind 40*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to specbrad [Qc Ad]duckblind62: folds wltlt: calls 40HonkyDonk: folds specbrad: raises 120 to 160superrex111: folds Vat21: folds Got AMG?: folds takman65: folds Carlsplayer is connected wltlt: calls 120*** FLOP *** [6d Qh 9h]wltlt: checks specbrad: bets 245wltlt: calls 245*** TURN *** [6d Qh 9h] [5h]wltlt: checks specbrad: checks *** RIVER *** [6d Qh 9h 5h] [3d]wltlt: checks specbrad: bets 240wltlt: folds Uncalled bet (240) returned to specbradspecbrad collected 870 from potspecbrad: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY ***Total pot 870 | Rake 0 Board [6d Qh 9h 5h 3d]Seat 1: duckblind62 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: wltlt folded on the RiverSeat 3: HonkyDonk folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: specbrad collected (870)Seat 6: superrex111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: Vat21 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: Got AMG? (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: takman65 (big blind) folded before Flop Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Ugh, just had AKos in sb... PokerStars Game #22135869745: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2008/11/17 21:37:24 ETTable '120443479 34' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: tl45 (2580 in chips) Seat 2: LondonMills (3985 in chips) Seat 3: chooch_n_max (2725 in chips) Seat 4: book52 (5105 in chips) Seat 5: jpo2933 (2855 in chips) Seat 6: NightTrain87 (2875 in chips) Seat 7: Beaverstyle (2650 in chips) Seat 8: VIAJERO27 (3580 in chips) Seat 9: playin4bux (5305 in chips) Beaverstyle: posts small blind 20VIAJERO27: posts big blind 40*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Beaverstyle [Ac Kh]playin4bux: calls 40tl45: folds LondonMills: folds chooch_n_max: folds book52: raises 80 to 120jpo2933: folds NightTrain87: folds Beaverstyle: raises 330 to 450VIAJERO27: folds playin4bux: folds book52: calls 330*** FLOP *** [Ts Jc 2h]Beaverstyle: bets 450book52: calls 450*** TURN *** [Ts Jc 2h] [As]Beaverstyle: checks book52: bets 920Beaverstyle: folds Uncalled bet (920) returned to book52book52 collected 1880 from potbook52: doesn't show hand I usually check/shove turn here w/ no question. I'm trying to figure out if chgocubs99 is being condescending to us all or not and it's distracting me. Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Wow......cards please.....PokerStars Game #22136075506: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2008/11/17 21:45:38 ETTable '120443479 109' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: duckblind62 (2735 in chips) Seat 2: wltlt (7155 in chips) Seat 3: HonkyDonk (3125 in chips) Seat 4: specbrad (3545 in chips) Seat 5: Carlsplayer (15465 in chips) Seat 6: superrex111 (10550 in chips) Seat 7: Vat21 (6565 in chips) Seat 8: Got AMG? (2775 in chips) Seat 9: takman65 (2955 in chips) superrex111: posts small blind 25Vat21: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to specbrad [6d 7c]Got AMG?: folds takman65: folds duckblind62: calls 50wltlt: calls 50HonkyDonk: folds specbrad: folds Carlsplayer: calls 50superrex111: raises 50 to 100Vat21: folds duckblind62: calls 50wltlt: calls 50Carlsplayer: calls 50*** FLOP *** [6c Ah Jh]superrex111: bets 3350 INTO what.....300?duckblind62: folds wltlt: calls 3350Carlsplayer: folds *** TURN *** [6c Ah Jh] [8h]superrex111: bets 7100 and is all-inwltlt: calls 3705 and is all-inUncalled bet (3395) returned to superrex111*** RIVER *** [6c Ah Jh 8h] [5h]*** SHOW DOWN ***superrex111: shows [Ac Kh] (a flush, Ace high)wltlt: shows [As 4h] (a flush, Ace high - lower cards)superrex111 collected 14560 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 14560 | Rake 0 Board [6c Ah Jh 8h 5h]Seat 1: duckblind62 folded on the FlopSeat 2: wltlt showed [As 4h] and lost with a flush, Ace highSeat 3: HonkyDonk folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: specbrad folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: Carlsplayer (button) folded on the FlopSeat 6: superrex111 (small blind) showed [Ac Kh] and won (14560) with a flush, Ace highSeat 7: Vat21 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Got AMG? folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: takman65 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Ex_Matt 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 sorry but this is standard for mePokerStars Game #22136186992: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2008/11/17 21:50:02 ETTable '120443479 99' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: Marine17 (2300 in chips) Seat 2: Ex_Matt (2210 in chips) Seat 3: dimarud (1635 in chips) Seat 4: spankz29 (4105 in chips) Seat 5: SirPsycho12 (3660 in chips) Seat 6: riskem (2600 in chips) is sitting outSeat 7: Bounty4me (3525 in chips) Seat 8: conguitomv (3155 in chips) Seat 9: Calif John86 (3810 in chips) SirPsycho12: posts small blind 25riskem: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Ex_Matt [Kc As]Bounty4me: folds conguitomv: folds Calif John86: folds Marine17: calls 50Ex_Matt: raises 2160 to 2210 and is all-indimarud: folds spankz29: calls 2210SirPsycho12: folds riskem: folds Marine17: folds *** FLOP *** [Ah Tc 7c]*** TURN *** [Ah Tc 7c] [7s]*** RIVER *** [Ah Tc 7c 7s] [3h]*** SHOW DOWN ***Ex_Matt: shows [Kc As] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)spankz29: shows [Ts Td] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)spankz29 collected 4545 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 4545 | Rake 0 Board [Ah Tc 7c 7s 3h]Seat 1: Marine17 folded before FlopSeat 2: Ex_Matt showed [Kc As] and lost with two pair, Aces and SevensSeat 3: dimarud folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: spankz29 (button) showed [Ts Td] and won (4545) with a full house, Tens full of SevensSeat 5: SirPsycho12 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: riskem (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: Bounty4me folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: conguitomv folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Calif John86 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 sorry but this is standard for mePokerStars Game #22136186992: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2008/11/17 21:50:02 ETTable '120443479 99' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: Marine17 (2300 in chips) Seat 2: Ex_Matt (2210 in chips) Seat 3: dimarud (1635 in chips) Seat 4: spankz29 (4105 in chips) Seat 5: SirPsycho12 (3660 in chips) Seat 6: riskem (2600 in chips) is sitting outSeat 7: Bounty4me (3525 in chips) Seat 8: conguitomv (3155 in chips) Seat 9: Calif John86 (3810 in chips) SirPsycho12: posts small blind 25riskem: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Ex_Matt [Kc As]Bounty4me: folds conguitomv: folds Calif John86: folds Marine17: calls 50Ex_Matt: raises 2160 to 2210 and is all-indimarud: folds spankz29: calls 2210SirPsycho12: folds riskem: folds Marine17: folds *** FLOP *** [Ah Tc 7c]*** TURN *** [Ah Tc 7c] [7s]*** RIVER *** [Ah Tc 7c 7s] [3h]*** SHOW DOWN ***Ex_Matt: shows [Kc As] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)spankz29: shows [Ts Td] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)spankz29 collected 4545 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 4545 | Rake 0 Board [Ah Tc 7c 7s 3h]Seat 1: Marine17 folded before FlopSeat 2: Ex_Matt showed [Kc As] and lost with two pair, Aces and SevensSeat 3: dimarud folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: spankz29 (button) showed [Ts Td] and won (4545) with a full house, Tens full of SevensSeat 5: SirPsycho12 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: riskem (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: Bounty4me folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: conguitomv folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Calif John86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Why shove so much? I mean, I know it's a donkament. I can see an argument for both, just wondering. And you;re probably not getting away from that flop anyway, so my question is moot.Carry on. Link to post Share on other sites
Ex_Matt 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Why shove so much? I mean, I know it's a donkament. I can see an argument for both, just wondering. And you;re probably not getting away from that flop anyway, so my question is moot.Carry on.Way to answer your own questionI shove so much because i see no value in ever folding AK in a donkament. Link to post Share on other sites
chrispycream 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 still in, but at 2200. More downs than ups so far Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I have won one hand. It was the blinds. These players are sooooooo loose/bad, but besides the AK, haven't had a chance to get an chips at all. 1300ish at first break. Push/fold after break pretty much. Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 still in, but at 2200. More downs than ups so farSame 1800....just gross. Link to post Share on other sites
theinvestor 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 8k at break Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Way to answer your own questionI shove so much because i see no value in ever folding AK in a donkament.Yeah, but if you shove, you can get no real value out of it unless you shove. And how often do you get called when you shove? Link to post Share on other sites
I_fold08 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yeah, but if you shove, you can get no real value out of it unless you shove. And how often do you get called when you shove?only when he is beat, and sometimes AQ it was a pretty bad play Link to post Share on other sites
I_fold08 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 i busted AQ<Q2 gl to the horses Link to post Share on other sites
bowlernick10 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 7,760 chip count at the break. Link to post Share on other sites
theinvestor 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 sikPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t13035)Hero (UTG+1) (t7915)MP1 (t2930)MP2 (t5025)CO (t4800)Button (t4035)SB (t1225)BB (t4076)Hero's M: 34.41Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with As, Js1 fold, Hero raises to t300, 5 folds, BB calls t200Flop: (t730) 8s, Ah, 6h (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t500, BB raises to t1000, Hero raises to t3800, BB calls t2766 (All-In)Turn: (t8262) 8h (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t8262) 10h (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t8262 Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Why can't I play like these donkeys and just shove it aipf or on the flop?PokerStars Game #22137101500: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2008/11/17 22:27:23 ETTable '120443479 109' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: duckblind62 (7770 in chips) Seat 2: Vilivs (2680 in chips) Seat 3: hoopjones (2180 in chips) Seat 4: specbrad (1755 in chips) Seat 5: Carlsplayer (16220 in chips) Seat 6: superrex111 (18335 in chips) Seat 7: Vat21 (7900 in chips) Seat 8: Got AMG? (3240 in chips) Seat 9: takman65 (8075 in chips) duckblind62: posts the ante 10Vilivs: posts the ante 10hoopjones: posts the ante 10specbrad: posts the ante 10Carlsplayer: posts the ante 10superrex111: posts the ante 10Vat21: posts the ante 10Got AMG?: posts the ante 10takman65: posts the ante 10duckblind62: posts small blind 50Vilivs: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to specbrad [7h 7d]hoopjones: folds specbrad: raises 300 to 400Carlsplayer: folds superrex111: raises 300 to 700Vat21: calls 700Got AMG?: folds takman65: folds duckblind62: folds Vilivs: folds specbrad: calls 300*** FLOP *** [As 5h 4c]specbrad: checks superrex111: checks Vat21: bets 500specbrad: folds superrex111: raises 500 to 1000Vat21: calls 500*** TURN *** [As 5h 4c] [8d]superrex111: bets 1300Vat21: calls 1300*** RIVER *** [As 5h 4c 8d] [6h]superrex111: checks Vat21: checks specbrad said, "dAKLJJSDSDajskdj;ASDHasd"*** SHOW DOWN ***superrex111: shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)Vat21: mucks hand superrex111 collected 6940 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 6940 | Rake 0 Board [As 5h 4c 8d 6h]Seat 1: duckblind62 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: Vilivs (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: hoopjones folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: specbrad folded on the FlopSeat 5: Carlsplayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: superrex111 showed [Ac Ah] and won (6940) with three of a kind, AcesSeat 7: Vat21 mucked [Ad Th]Seat 8: Got AMG? folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: takman65 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Ex_Matt 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yeah, but if you shove, you can get no real value out of it unless you shove. And how often do you get called when you shove?So by your logic I make a raise, potentially get 3 bet which i call or shove against anyways.If I call the 3bet or my raise gets called, I'm C-betting the flop and getting shoved on regardless.If I c-bet and they fold I had the best hand and dont get value for it. Its just an ugly hand no matter how u wanna theorize it. Definitely not played by the book but what can you do? Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Why can't I play like these donkeys and just shove it aipf or on the flop?PokerStars Game #22137101500: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2008/11/17 22:27:23 ETTable '120443479 109' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: duckblind62 (7770 in chips) Seat 2: Vilivs (2680 in chips) Seat 3: hoopjones (2180 in chips) Seat 4: specbrad (1755 in chips) Seat 5: Carlsplayer (16220 in chips) Seat 6: superrex111 (18335 in chips) Seat 7: Vat21 (7900 in chips) Seat 8: Got AMG? (3240 in chips) Seat 9: takman65 (8075 in chips) duckblind62: posts the ante 10Vilivs: posts the ante 10hoopjones: posts the ante 10specbrad: posts the ante 10Carlsplayer: posts the ante 10superrex111: posts the ante 10Vat21: posts the ante 10Got AMG?: posts the ante 10takman65: posts the ante 10duckblind62: posts small blind 50Vilivs: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to specbrad [7h 7d]hoopjones: folds specbrad: raises 300 to 400Carlsplayer: folds superrex111: raises 300 to 700Vat21: calls 700Got AMG?: folds takman65: folds duckblind62: folds Vilivs: folds specbrad: calls 300*** FLOP *** [As 5h 4c]specbrad: checks superrex111: checks Vat21: bets 500specbrad: folds superrex111: raises 500 to 1000Vat21: calls 500*** TURN *** [As 5h 4c] [8d]superrex111: bets 1300Vat21: calls 1300*** RIVER *** [As 5h 4c 8d] [6h]superrex111: checks Vat21: checks specbrad said, "dAKLJJSDSDajskdj;ASDHasd"*** SHOW DOWN ***superrex111: shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)Vat21: mucks hand superrex111 collected 6940 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 6940 | Rake 0 Board [As 5h 4c 8d 6h]Seat 1: duckblind62 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: Vilivs (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: hoopjones folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: specbrad folded on the FlopSeat 5: Carlsplayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: superrex111 showed [Ac Ah] and won (6940) with three of a kind, AcesSeat 7: Vat21 mucked [Ad Th]Seat 8: Got AMG? folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: takman65 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 And out.....thx for the try.....PokerStars Game #22137146547: Tournament #120443479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2008/11/17 22:29:17 ETTable '120443479 109' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: duckblind62 (7700 in chips) Seat 2: Vilivs (2460 in chips) Seat 3: hoopjones (2060 in chips) Seat 4: specbrad (1035 in chips) Seat 5: Carlsplayer (16590 in chips) Seat 6: superrex111 (22255 in chips) Seat 7: Vat21 (4780 in chips) Seat 8: Got AMG? (3220 in chips) Seat 9: takman65 (8055 in chips) duckblind62: posts the ante 10Vilivs: posts the ante 10hoopjones: posts the ante 10specbrad: posts the ante 10Carlsplayer: posts the ante 10superrex111: posts the ante 10Vat21: posts the ante 10Got AMG?: posts the ante 10takman65: posts the ante 10hoopjones: posts small blind 50specbrad: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to specbrad [Js Th]Carlsplayer: folds superrex111: folds Vat21: folds Got AMG?: folds takman65: folds duckblind62: folds Vilivs: folds hoopjones: raises 200 to 300specbrad: raises 725 to 1025 and is all-inhoopjones: calls 725*** FLOP *** [6c 3c 9h]*** TURN *** [6c 3c 9h] [4c]*** RIVER *** [6c 3c 9h 4c] [4s]*** SHOW DOWN ***hoopjones: shows [2h Ah] (a pair of Fours)specbrad: shows [Js Th] (a pair of Fours - lower kicker)hoopjones collected 2140 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2140 | Rake 0 Board [6c 3c 9h 4c 4s]Seat 1: duckblind62 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Vilivs (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: hoopjones (small blind) showed [2h Ah] and won (2140) with a pair of FoursSeat 4: specbrad (big blind) showed [Js Th] and lost with a pair of FoursSeat 5: Carlsplayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: superrex111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: Vat21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: Got AMG? folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: takman65 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Villain struggles... and can't fold... 33 on a 10 2 10 Q board, I c/r'ed flop, pushed turn. I had 910. Sitting at 3,330 now.EDIT: God, just had an opportunity to make a great 3-barrel bluff, but thought villain was snap-calling river. He obviously has a missed ace high flush draw > my K high air. Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 So by your logic I make a raise, potentially get 3 bet which i call or shove against anyways.If I call the 3bet or my raise gets called, I'm C-betting the flop and getting shoved on regardless.If I c-bet and they fold I had the best hand and dont get value for it. Its just an ugly hand no matter how u wanna theorize it. Definitely not played by the book but what can you do?Yeah, but that's only THAT hand. By you open shoving, I assume you do that alot. So my question is in general to how you possibly play AK for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 hey ifold08, nice thing of you to do to stake people back. thanks for not being a douche and giving something back Link to post Share on other sites
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