finztotheleft 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 But players can't play in the event unless they sign the WPT release form......so the WPT has some control over who plays Link to post Share on other sites
drcossack 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Is this thread about Shana Hiatt at all?Boy I sure liked Shana Hiatt on the WPT ;-)Doyle can replace Sexton just as long as Mike Matusow doesn't replace Shana.But, they could actually use Mike Sexton because don't they do the commentating after the fact anyways? They don't see the hole cards live do they? I thought they are recorded and all the commentating is added after the tournament is played.They're there talking about it live. Though they can see the betting, they're quiet because they're close enough to possibly influence the action. Their knowledge of the hole cards is added in later.The next time you catch the current season on GSN or one of the older seasons on the Travel Channel, listen more closely. Mike and Vince have two different volume levels. Link to post Share on other sites
FREEROLLER13 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 But players can't play in the event unless they sign the WPT release form......so the WPT has some control over who playsNot 100% accurate. The individual properties will have their own rules to allow players (21 years of age, 19 years of age, not self-trespassed, banned, etc.), the WPT has ZERO control over who enters and plays the tournament. If a player chooses to NOT sign the WPT's release, the TD can still allow that player to buyin and play. However, as the property and the WPT have a business relationship, this is as likely to happen as me winning a WPT event. Link to post Share on other sites
rjkdb8 1 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I never see the whole cards. Just the corner with the rank and suit. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Not 100% accurate. The individual properties will have their own rules to allow players (21 years of age, 19 years of age, not self-trespassed, banned, etc.), the WPT has ZERO control over who enters and plays the tournament. If a player chooses to NOT sign the WPT's release, the TD can still allow that player to buyin and play. However, as the property and the WPT have a business relationship, this is as likely to happen as me winning a WPT event.Why weren't the individual casinos added to the WPT lawsuit by the ungrateful 7 ? Or were they and I'm just not aware of it (a distinct possibility !) ? It seems to me that if the WPT only had "influence" over the decision, the casinos would have been named as the primary defendents as they legally controlled who could enter the tourneys. For the record.......You sound like you know what you are talking about. I'm not challenging you saying "I know that you are wrong". I'm saying I always assumed that the WPT ran the tourneys and now I'm not sure about the whole lawsuit question. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 [x ] pass[ ] fail[ ] Jurys still outMerby has voted.Aww CRAP!Due to an inadvertent attempt at acting like a third person commentator, Merby has suddenly started referring to himself in the third person. He hopes this *phase* will pass as quickly as those sudden "illnesses" that cause people to miss work to go to the beach instead. Link to post Share on other sites
gtycoon 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 They're there talking about it live. Though they can see the betting, they're quiet because they're close enough to possibly influence the action. Their knowledge of the hole cards is added in later.The next time you catch the current season on GSN or one of the older seasons on the Travel Channel, listen more closely. Mike and Vince have two different volume levels.Yeah, sometimes you hear them whispering and other times they are shouting that someone flopped the nuts Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Due to an inadvertent attempt at acting like a third person commentator, Merby has suddenly started referring to himself in the third person. He hopes this *phase* will pass as quickly as those sudden "illnesses" that cause people to miss work to go to the beach instead.My preferring the beach to work phase has been going strong for 40+ years Link to post Share on other sites
FREEROLLER13 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 For the record.......You sound like you know what you are talking about.I do. Thank you for noticing. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I do. Thank you for noticing.Do you know why the individual properties were not named in the WPT lawsuit ? Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Do you know why the individual properties were not named in the WPT lawsuit ?Because the lawsuit was centred around the use of the players images to promote the WPT. And, just to further clarify, Vince and Mike don't know the hole cards until sometimes weeks after the event when they do post-production. The hole cards cams don't run into the normal tv production centre, they are sent separately to a secure room known as 'the bunker'. In that room, a couple of techs monitor the feed. If they miss a player's hole cards, they simply notify the director that they missed 'player 3's' cards or whatever, and they will be discretely asked to show their cards to the camera again. Nobody has ANY idea what the hole cards are until the tournament is over.. Link to post Share on other sites
AAsnake88 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 OMG how is that fair? Sexton should have to play it out. No Doyle takes his place in the booth. OhQuoted again for goldness. Link to post Share on other sites
FREEROLLER13 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Because the lawsuit was centred around the use of the players images to promote the WPT. And, just to further clarify, Vince and Mike don't know the hole cards until sometimes weeks after the event when they do post-production. The hole cards cams don't run into the normal tv production centre, they are sent separately to a secure room known as 'the bunker'. In that room, a couple of techs monitor the feed. If they miss a player's hole cards, they simply notify the director that they missed 'player 3's' cards or whatever, and they will be discretely asked to show their cards to the camera again. Nobody has ANY idea what the hole cards are until the tournament is over..TRUE DAT Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I do. Thank you for noticing.Yeah.I'm sure you do....no......really. Link to post Share on other sites
-caveman- 0 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Because the lawsuit was centred around the use of the players images to promote the WPT. And, just to further clarify, Vince and Mike don't know the hole cards until sometimes weeks after the event when they do post-production. The hole cards cams don't run into the normal tv production centre, they are sent separately to a secure room known as 'the bunker'. In that room, a couple of techs monitor the feed. If they miss a player's hole cards, they simply notify the director that they missed 'player 3's' cards or whatever, and they will be discretely asked to show their cards to the camera again. Nobody has ANY idea what the hole cards are until the tournament is over..I want to work in 'the bunker'. Wonder if they have any openings? Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Do you know why the individual properties were not named in the WPT lawsuit ? Because the lawsuit was centred around the use of the players images to promote the WPT.Yes, I know what the lawsuit was about. The players did not want to sign the release. They said that because they did not want to sign the release, they were denied entry into the events. It seems like it would have been mentioned if they were denied entry into a Bellagio event because there was a stipulation that they had to sign a WPT release. It seems to me that they could have sued each hotel. Why sue the WPT if they weren't the ones denying them entry to the event ? Link to post Share on other sites
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