anteaters 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 MGM 1-2 NL $200 max buyinI have $500UTG limpsI have AhKx on buttonI make it $15 to goUTG raises $15 more ($30 all day)I callFLOP= KQx (KhQh)UTG bets $25 (has $75 behind)...............what is the "right play"?, villain is young azn, has bought in for $40~60 several times, been talking whole night, rarely PF bets/raise/looks young/no clue if kid is TAG/LAG/DONK etc. cuz I don't even know what I'm doing for the most partNo idea what table thinks of me (just been playing ABC for most of night)no one else has more than max buyin at tablewhat is the right play here? what do you put him on at this point?main thing is, I would like to know what is the "right"= profitable play regardless of stakes etc. or, do stakes, blinds, stack matter?any input would be appreciated, any flames will be laughed at ^0^hopefully I can get a variety of opinions,thanks,.......- nub Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 BBFDTS.There is also a strategy section of this forum Link to post Share on other sites
anteaters 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 BBFDTS.There is also a strategy section of this forum.............err.........Bad beats? not sure why you think I was whining about a beat.No one was over there (Gen Strat) so hoping that someone reading this forum would respond with some genuine critique I posted it here too.I guess as a Nub on this site, I am just wrestless.For reals though, have any suggestions/critique/anaylsis on the hand? Link to post Share on other sites
steve73 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 MGM 1-2 NL $200 max buyinI have $500UTG limpsI have AhKx on buttonI make it $15 to goUTG raises $15 more ($30 all day)I callFLOP= KQx (KhQh)UTG bets $25 (has $75 behind)...............what is the "right play"?, villain is young azn, has bought in for $40~60 several times, been talking whole night, rarely PF bets/raise/looks young/no clue if kid is TAG/LAG/DONK etc. cuz I don't even know what I'm doing for the most partNo idea what table thinks of me (just been playing ABC for most of night)no one else has more than max buyin at tablewhat is the right play here? what do you put him on at this point?main thing is, I would like to know what is the "right"= profitable play regardless of stakes etc. or, do stakes, blinds, stack matter?any input would be appreciated, any flames will be laughed at ^0^hopefully I can get a variety of opinions,thanks,.......- nubthe minimum raise pre flop from this guy wants action, he has AA,KK or QQ. All of which have you dominated, fold. Link to post Share on other sites
GetSprung 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Shove all day here.....it's MGM. I'm not kidding. His range is insanely wide here you probably aren't paying attention. Also this is based off the fact that you said he rebought "several" times for under the table minimum. So either you're not paying attention or have your story totally wrong. Shove, and when he flips over AQ you can thank me. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Shove all day here.....it's MGM.'nuff saidqft Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Make it $50 and call the clock immediately on him. He will be so flustered by this strange minraise, while at the same time tilted that you called the clock right away, that his timebank will run out, his hand will be mucked, and you take down a nice pot.Thank me later. Link to post Share on other sites
MrLucy 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I think I push here and cry when he calls with qq??MrLucy Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 the minimum raise pre flop from this guy wants action, he has AA,KK or QQ. All of which have you dominated, fold.You're kidding, right? Shove all day here.....it's MGM. I'm not kidding. His range is insanely wide here you probably aren't paying attention. Also this is based off the fact that you said he rebought "several" times for under the table minimum. So either you're not paying attention or have your story totally wrong. Shove, and when he flips over AQ you can thank me.Yes. Hellmuth shove all day long... Link to post Share on other sites
cardcore 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 i wish the mods created a forum for strategy posts Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 If you've already made a post in the strat forum please don't make posts also in the General Poker Forum.I'm going to merge the 2 topics. Link to post Share on other sites
rvrchsrhtr 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I put him all in. If you call the flop bet then I don't see you getting away from the hand anyway might as well push. Maybe check call if you think he'll bluff into you but fold if you raise?depends on range and looseness of villain (which you said rebuys several times short). either push pre or after flop when you hit it. either way I'm getting it in here I think Link to post Share on other sites
rvrchsrhtr 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 "has bought in for $40~60 several times, been talking whole night, rarely PF bets/raise/looks young/no clue if kid is TAG/LAG/DONK etc."how can this be true btw? oxymoron? Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 With his stack and your stack, I'm pushing him all in. Sorry with the BBFDTS comment earlier, it just thought you would know to put it in the strategy forum. Link to post Share on other sites
Rufats 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Given your stack size - shove. You still have a backdoor flush draw... if things turn ugly. Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 does anyone else shove preflop? Anyways, definitely shove the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
anteaters 0 Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 With his stack and your stack, I'm pushing him all in. Sorry with the BBFDTS comment earlier, it just thought you would know to put it in the strategy forum.no worries about BBFDTS...It was just strange cuz this wasn't a bad beat story at all, at least for me that isAnyway I bet all in and he eventually (after getting up and ranting about some nonsense) called asking if I had "KQ", at this point I was pretty sure he had Acesbut Turn came a K River blanked and he nearly cried as he ranted some moreanyways, everyone at the table was disgusted, giving me dirty looks and talking amongst themselves: none of which I cared about, didn't say sorry or anything but simply reminded everyone that I was just lucky the whole night.Problem I have with my play is that, essentially I didn't know what to do on the flop. Basically I just resorted to moving all in.I'm not sure if I could ever fold PF (with that kind of min raising etc.) But is there a case to be made to fold that flop? What if his stack was larger?Btw, I had no clue what style, skill level, experience the kid had, as someone mentioned before, cuz I wasn't paying enough attention to the "short stacks" at the table, although I guess no one had a big stack. At the risk of sounding arrogant or whatever, I just assumed he was a novice or recreational player that "thought" he was goodthanks for the replies and opinions all-nub Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Make it $50 and call the clock immediately on him.Move of the year right here. Link to post Share on other sites
Rufats 0 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I'm not sure if I could ever fold PF (with that kind of min raising etc.) But is there a case to be made to fold that flop? What if his stack was larger?-nubIf he had 400-500, then it's a tough one. But I'd fold it, I guess. TPTK - I don't risk all my money on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Dingleberry 0 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 search for 100bb tptk shove and reloadsrsly Link to post Share on other sites
AndyZ28 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Make it $50 and call the clock immediately on him. He will be so flustered by this strange minraise, while at the same time tilted that you called the clock right away, that his timebank will run out, his hand will be mucked, and you take down a nice pot.Thank me later.That made me laugh. If someone did that to me at a live table, I would probably go bananas. Good suggestion, I'm gonna try it next time I'm at a casino and someone I dislike is in a hand with me. Link to post Share on other sites
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