MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 wow what was the highest paid coach getting before today? That seems crazy high. good for the Leafs willing to overpay to get who they want, but it seems like too much emphasis on the coach, not enough on the talent. At this point. I think you need talent first, before getting the right coach to put you over the top. Maybe they think they have the talent already, and just need a Babcock to get the most out of them. I dont see it, but could be. who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Well shit... Toronto might finally get half decent. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Well shit... Toronto might finally get half decent. Babcock's corsi sucks! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Partying up in Fresno with the news. We finally got someone. Let's now get some players. Good day Party time Link to post Share on other sites
iBeaver 409 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 wow what was the highest paid coach getting before today? That seems crazy high. good for the Leafs willing to overpay to get who they want, but it seems like too much emphasis on the coach, not enough on the talent. At this point. I think you need talent first, before getting the right coach to put you over the top. Maybe they think they have the talent already, and just need a Babcock to get the most out of them. I dont see it, but could be. who knows. Wings offer of $4M woukd have made him the highest by like $750k according to what I heard on the radio. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Wings offer of $4M woukd have made him the highest by like $750k according to what I heard on the radio. Yeah, the problem was the taxes. Apparently he told the leafs it had to be equivalent to his gross in Michigan. 4 mil became 6 mil. wings offered 5 yrs, leafs offered an eternity in hell eight. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,313 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yeah, the problem was the taxes. Apparently he told the leafs it had to be equivalent to his gross in Michigan. 4 mil became 6 mil. wings offered 5 yrs, leafs offered an eternity in hell eight. top tax rates in Michigan and Ontario aren't that different, not as much as you're implying. About 44% in Michigan and 49.5% in Ontario Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 top tax rates in Michigan and Ontario aren't that different, not as much as you're implying. About 44% in Michigan and 49.5% in Ontario Apparently it's very different for anyone employed in professional sports. It's always a concern of players, and now I'm sure top paid coaches. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 I can't remember the last time we won/acquired high end staff/player that other teams were actively pursuing. Well the last one was Clarkson I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Swacker Dave 89 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Edited.... just like Bob... Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Let's all be honest... the best thing about Babs coming to TO is it exposed Bob Mackenzie for the idiot that he is! He has since deleted the famous "not coming to TO' tweet. Are you sure that was him because there was a fake Bob MacKenzie. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Let's all be honest... the best thing about Babs coming to TO is it exposed Bob Mackenzie for the idiot that he is! He has since deleted the famous "not coming to TO' tweet. To be fair most? pundits completely underestimated MLSE's willingness to unload the Brinks truck / give him power. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 To be fair, Babcock WAS NOT coming to Toronto. The Leafs, for all intents and purposes, believed they were out of the running. They had a second interview scheduled with Guy Boucher yesterday when Babcock called them to renew discussions. And MacKenzie was one of the first on that story. So how about you just assume MacKenzie tells the truth as it is, and that sometimes things change over time? It's absurd to rip someone so clearly connected if information changes after he reports it. It's like completely ignoring how the world functions. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 So how about you just assume MacKenzie tells the truth as it is, and that sometimes things change over time? It's absurd to rip someone so clearly connected if information changes after he reports it. It's like completely ignoring how the world functions. Ripping people for changing their PoV based on new info is EXACTLY how the world functions. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 flip flopper! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Ripping people for changing their PoV based on new info is EXACTLY how the world functions. I mean, the ripping part, sure, but people need to understand what the role of somebody like MacKenzie actually is. It's to provide insight on what's happening behind the scenes at a given time. Being "wrong" is something that's going to happen because of the dynamics of the business of hockey, among other things. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I think Bob is great 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 caught a small tidbit of the press conference on the car radio, and I have to say, I always like listening to Babcock. If his public personna is genuine, then I would really enjoy his company. Smart, direct, and realistic/humble. I respect people like that, who can be strong+know they have it all, and yet have the humility to know they dont know everything. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Ya, Im as pro-Bob as it comes. I am noticing now how little I actually watch him these days, as hockey gets taken away from TSN and I seem to be watching CBC/Snet only during the playoffs. Miss him and his ways. If there is one thing I think about Bob, its that he doesnt make up anything, and is much more a reporter than anyone else. The others seem to over dramatize stuff just to sound relevant. You can have your Kippers and McLeans, I wouldnt trade Bob for 10 of those guys. (Elliott is good though) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Swacker Dave 89 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I think my kid got hold of my account.... sorry to rock the boat there... it's so unlike me. I have no business saying those things... I haven't been based in TO for 15 years. Maybe he's changed! Please forgive me.... don't kick me! .... sorry I thought I was in the CoC thread for a second there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I wish Duthie and Mckenzie would have accepted the sportsnet offer. Duthie in strombo's role would be fantastic, and bob replacing any of the other yahoos from HNIC would obviously be a huge upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I wish Duthie and Mckenzie would have accepted the sportsnet offer. Duthie in strombo's role would be fantastic, and bob replacing any of the other yahoos from HNIC would obviously be a huge upgrade. I didnt know they were offered spots. Too bad. I really like Strombo in general, but he is just not working for me on HNIC. Maybe by next year he will have grown on me. I wonder how well Duthie, Bob, Elliott and Kelly Hrudey would work. The first 3 are 3 of my favourites, and I like Hrudey a lot, though I think he's not everyones COT. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hrudey is awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I didnt know they were offered spots. Too bad. I really like Strombo in general, but he is just not working for me on HNIC. Maybe by next year he will have grown on me. I wonder how well Duthie, Bob, Elliott and Kelly Hrudey would work. The first 3 are 3 of my favourites, and I like Hrudey a lot, though I think he's not everyones COT. I agree with you on Duthie, Bob, Elliot and Hrudey...probably 4 of my favourites. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,313 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I think Bob is great obviously Link to post Share on other sites
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