Top Boat On Flop

[Actuary 3]

<5 hands, no read.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)BB ($57.90)UTG ($58.15)Noob ($24.30)Button ($16.60)SB ($70.95)Preflop: Noob is MP with , , , . UTG calls $0.25, Noob raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50.Flop: ($3.75) , , (5 players)SB bets $3.6, BB folds, UTG folds, Noob calls $3.60, Button folds.Turn: ($10.95) (2 players)SB checks, Noob bets $3.25, I'm calling any c/r of course. And making a 1/2 pot bet on river if chekd to. I put him on a 3 with a fd type handAll Steeets please

[simo_8ball 0]

I like preflop, but I play way more aggro preflop than average. Standard line would be to limp in, but I like aggression.Flop is good. You could raise, but I think you are far more likely to see a fold than you are to get value.Underbetting the turn is good, but I'd like to see it being slightly bigger, maybe around $4. If you pot, you give lone trips a chance to get away, and you have represented AA well so he can 'safely' call your bet with a flush draw.

[meservery 0]

I like preflop, but I play way more aggro preflop than average. Standard line would be to limp in, but I like aggression.Flop is good. You could raise, but I think you are far more likely to see a fold than you are to get value.Underbetting the turn is good, but I'd like to see it being slightly bigger, maybe around $4. If you pot, you give lone trips a chance to get away, and you have represented AA well so he can 'safely' call your bet with a flush draw.

If you have been playing aggro, wouldnt you want to raise the flop? Don't let him get away by the turn or river when your hand may be more apparent...

[simo_8ball 0]

Villain is shortstacked.

[Actuary 3]

Villain is shortstacked.

no he's not.I'm at the buy-in.Villain is 3x buy in.

[fopkins 0]

Your line seems good.I like 1/2 pot on both streets, calling any raise. (Unless a 3 comes. )

[simo_8ball 0]

no he's not.I'm at the buy-in.Villain is 3x buy in.

Bah, was thinking of the other thread where villain was short.Given that you are both fairly deep I think a value raise to about $8 is worthwhile on the flop. I feel that the best way to handle these situations is to represent AA or KK, value bet down and bet a little bigger if the draw(s) hit.

[Actuary 3]

Bah, was thinking of the other thread where villain was short.Given that you are both fairly deep I think a value raise to about $8 is worthwhile on the flop. I feel that the best way to handle these situations is to represent AA or KK, value bet down and bet a little bigger if the draw(s) hit.

Would I want to raise this flop with AA?I thougt I kinda was representing AA, concerned about a 3

[simo_8ball 0]

Would I want to raise this flop with AA?I thougt I kinda was representing AA, concerned about a 3

I do like your line, but I think you can still represent AA with a small raise. I can live with either line, but I'm pretty LAG, so I would consider raising here with QQxx as well as flush draws and trips.If you're playing TAG, a raise is more likely to fold out flush draws and maybe even weak trips (3456, etc) but at the same time, you are more likely to win a big pot if villain does decide to continue with his hand.

[bdc30 0]

Weird, he bets the pot on the flop, then checks the turn to you.IMO, a small bet here reeks of strength, not fear. I'm pretty sure TJ says that if you're betting, always bet the size of the pot, so as never to tip the strength of your hand by your bet sizes. I think that might help you out here. I'd be a lot more suspicious of a pot size bet when I check to someone than I would be of a sizeable under-bet.I say just pot it. If he's got a 3, he's not folding.

[simo_8ball 0]

IMO, a small bet here reeks of strength, not fear. I'm pretty sure TJ says that if you're betting, always bet the size of the pot, so as never to tip the strength of your hand by your bet sizes.

I disagree with TJ on this. Potting with AA here would be pretty pointless, and would turn a hand with value into a complete bluff.

[bdc30 0]

I disagree with TJ on this. Potting with AA here would be pretty pointless, and would turn a hand with value into a complete bluff.

If we're trying to rep AA, shouldn't we have raised the flop? Representing a 3 or single jack, I'd pot here. He doesn't know we have the boat already. Like I said, if he has a 3, he'll call all day.

[simo_8ball 0]

If we're trying to rep AA, shouldn't we have raised the flop?

Bah, was thinking of the other thread where villain was short.Given that you are both fairly deep I think a value raise to about $8 is worthwhile on the flop. I feel that the best way to handle these situations is to represent AA or KK, value bet down and bet a little bigger if the draw(s) hit.

I do think raising the flop is best against a full stack (I misread it originally), but I don't like a full pot. In the same way that we vary bet sizes in NLHE based on board texture I feel that always betting the pot is too restrictive and loses value in many situations.

[bdc30 0]

I agree that TJ's "always bet the pot" advice may not be the best move 100% of the time, I was just putting it out there as a theory. I don't mind floating the flop here to let him try and hang himself by catching something on the turn, but once it's checked to us there, I insta-pot it.

[meservery 0]

The average players on lower levels are not going to know what your bets mean. I think you should be betting your nut hands very strongly. Almost full pot. And your bluffs should be not much bigger than half pot.

[Actuary 3]

I say just pot it. If he's got a 3, he's not folding.

what's he do with a 3 if I bet a small amount?what's he do with a flush draw if I pot it?

[bdc30 0]

what's he do with a 3 if I bet a small amount? - Calls to see if he can boat up, same as he'd do if you potted it - more valuewhat's he do with a flush draw if I pot it? - Folds to any bet. I'm not paying to draw to a non nut hand on very many omaha boards.

[Actuary 3]

He came over the top with a naked 3. And, I thought with a fd he might call a smaller betI prob get the same from a 3 by Potting; but thought I make more from non 3's and dumb-dumbs by making a weak bet.ps. This game is soooooooooo cool

[bdc30 0]

And, I thought with a fd he might call a smaller betps. This game is soooooooooo cool

He may have called with a flush draw. That's what makes this game so cool, people are stooopid. lol Don't pay to draw to hands that aren't/won't be teh nuts.I needs to find me a stake to get back in the action (or some easy way to put mobneys back online...) all this omaha posting is giving me the itch

[BudBundy 0]

Eh , you can't play this hand very bad anyway.I like a small raise on flop , a little bigger than the min-raise , like , i have aces and i have no ****in clue where i am at this hand.