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You don't want him drawing. Think about it mathematically. And once again, dont. talk. when. you. are. all. in. ever.I dont get this part.You calculated his pot odds to call.thats all? so the villain is getting correct pot odds to call his draw, whats the difference?He could invest 2 billion dollars on top but thats not going to change his "mathematical % win ratio" Pot odds are something villain will take into account to make "gambling" more correct.same with implied odds on unsuspecting cards in raised pots on weak boards to help build equity. That still doesnt change him being a favorite

Actually, regardless of the topic of this post, i never contended that i played ANY part of this hand right. I blew it on several counts. The tourny was actually only in the 3rd round. the average stack was less then 2500 i had close to 8 and the guy i put all in was the only other big stack at the table. That is a dangerous flop, with multiple draws, i only have bottom set, and i had an all-in and a call in front of me. And btw, the turn WAS a Jh, so i was toast anyway.Oh, and also, seat 4 had 910 os. so maybe he was more pissed that i opened my mouth then i was.

Maybe the lesson learned is this: I could have easlily accomplished the same thing as well as protect myself from this unusal situation is to have said " you have to pay for the DRAW'And not be specific about which draw i put him on, as sometimes maybe an extra draw here or there that a player may not see may swing the decision to a call.Thanks for the help. I knew we would get there eventually.

I agree with the last part, especially since he was leaning on folding...no need to try to push him over the edge i guess is the point here.But i disagree with your statement that there's no way i could read his hand if even he doesn't realize all his outs, because i did put him on a flush draw, and he was, even though he didnt realize it.no?Unless you have X-Ray vision, reading someone's hand without them knowing what they hold is impossible. It would be akin to knowing their cards before they looked at them. It was just a coincidence that you put him on a flush draw.I did'nt know my read was

So what you're saying is that you're psychic? There is no other way to read someone's hand if they don't know what they have.HUH??I'm not trying to argue, but in this somewhat rare situation, it seem that this did occur. He called with one draw, the OESD, i happened to put him on a flush draw and mentioned it, which made him realize that he did have a flush draw as well.So i guess your point is that my read was wrong, becuase i should have put him on the OESD? What does his knowledge of his hand have to do with my read? That WOULD make someone pshychic. My read was based on his play of the

The point was the he DIDN'T know he had a flush draw. Maybe he didn't see the 2 clubs on the board or something. From his paly and talking to him later i believe he really didnt know until i told him waht my read of his hand was.I guess i forgot about the overs but i think its the open ended straigt draw combined with the flush draw that made him call, not the overs.

I agree with the last part, especially since he was leaning on folding...no need to try to push him over the edge i guess is the point here.But i disagree with your statement that there's no way i could read his hand if even he doesn't realize all his outs, because i did put him on a flush draw, and he was, even though he didnt realize it.no?

Live $40 MTT 200/400I limp with 554th position and the button call, sb and bb call/check.5 players pot = 2000Flop is 5c 7h 8csb/bb check, i check.4 position is all in for 1900.button calls fairly quickly. sb/bb fold.I think for a while, count my chips, think some more...and go all-in for 2900 more. The button thinks for a long time and i swear is about to fold when i say 'your gonna have to PAY for that flush draw' He responds that 'naah, i'm not suited' hesitates, looks back at his cards and says 'oh, censored, i AM suited' and proceeds to call quickly with 9c10c. Obviously he called the

GSN is paying the taxes on their winnings that they wouldnt otherwise have to report if they wern't on natioanl tv

Actually the OP's question is flawed because it lets each poster answer in his own context.To the OP: In what context are you asking the question?Or more importantly: Why do you ask?If the OP answers the above question then maybe a more definative answer will arise.

yeah DN may answer 1 year for that question.My runs usually last for 3 weeks tops. No pun intended.

I am gambling on losing my job continuing to reply to these posts at work so i am done.But again for the record:It depends on how you play poker. i.e. How much you risk, your anticipated risk/reward ratio, your opponents, the game you choose to play, your style, and i think most importantly your GOAL.If you goal is to 'feel the rush' ,which most 'gamblers' are playing for, although they tell you they play for the cash, then you are indeed gambling. Because the gambling is the event to these people, not the poker. Poker is just the instrument to gamble. If you're there for the game, poker, a

My point is, you used a poor example to illustrate your point.there are no licenses issued to play poker, and no strict guidelines to follow to insure a winning rate.thats my point.You illustrate my point perfectly. If you drive within the speed limit, blah blah blah you do indeed decrease your risk and therefore arent gambling.But if you drive aggressivly, do not maintain your vehicle or are not aware of the drivers around you, than you are gambling with your life.In this sense you can do everything right (vehicle wise) and still get hit by a drunk or careless driver playing poker on there bl

If you have NOTHING at risk with what are you gambling.If i go play pool for 4 hours it will cost me at least 40 bucks.same for bowling, movies and so forth.If i choose more lavish entertainment like a fancy dinner or a show100 bucks easy. If i go play poker for 5 hours and play well but get 'unlucky' lose my limit of lets say 50 bucks, but enjoy myself in the process, how is that gambling????The answer to the question is : It depends on how you play the game.This is not a yes or no question.

Hydroformed frames, airbags, seatbelts and impact zones have made cars extremely safe.Following the designated speed limits and seatbelt laws will drastically increase your chance of daily survival.To say you are gambling with your life is ludicrous. You risk more uncertainties by walking such far distances not knowing the dangers awaiting you in swampy marsh land.i thought of that too but.. i was trying to illustrate a point.Managing your bankroll, playing within yourself, knowledege of the game, etc also increase your chance of daily survival.so whats your point?

Poker is, as are most games made with a wager, GAMING. Gambling, and this all depends on which definition of the term you prefer, but i prefer the last two, is risking more than you can afford in hopes of a large return.Responsible gaming is in no way gambling becuase you are risking nothing. Taking a 'chance' that your AK will hold up against a PP is a gamble indeed, but it does not make the game a gambling proposition unless the stakes warrant it. Gambling for some is gaming to others and vice versa. It's all relative and personal and dependant on the situation. I play poker every day

Did i mention he was tight?

What would you do if you found yourself holding a 2 high flush, with a board of Qs6s2h 7s Js, against an unknown blind/dark hand all-in for all your money/chips? You are heads-up, and are getting 4 to 1 on your money, and the pot before the all-in is 1/2 the chips in play.

Cliff Note Version also available.. :-) I posted this in the general forum a few weeks ago before I noticed there was a strategy forum. After discussing the details with my opponent, I have revised the details slightly to more accurately reflect what actually happened. I thought it may make for a good read here too.“This situation came up over this past weekend. Heads-up NL hold-em freeze out for a total pot of $60. The structure we used was 300/each 3/6 SB/BB going up 1 every fourth hand. The first 13 hands were either folded to me from the SB or I had raised with quality cards, my oppone

Stay away from the other chip leaders unless u have the goods.Prey on the weak..GL

This is a quote fromo Josh Arieh's tournament update: "I was cold decked a couple times and was quickly down to 2400. Then my personal chip bank Daniel Negreanu doubled me up when the flop came K57. I had KQ he had T7... blank blank.... i am up to 5k and REALLY want to do good. It's amazing how much fun I'm having playing poker.... I dont know why, but I'm loving the game, even with my short stack, its still fun."From the size of his stack after the double up it probably wasn't that big of thing but the quote made me laugh. Glad im not the only one to be called a personal chip bank.

I'm thinking about quiting this forum....

or on second thought maybe i should give up my $5.50 Sng's...im 8-1 against and only getting back 4-1 for a win. censored!

What if u get lucky and hit the first time for 20 million, quit your job and start playing poker?Makes good sense to me

All those Donks at the WSOP must need a lesson in Risk to reward ratios.They where laying $10,000 (ofcourse not the satellites but bear with me) to make approx. 4mill after taxes whichi is 400-1 on their investment IF they win (yeah right) against a field of 5600 which all things neing equal(which there not) is 5600-1 against.Donks i tell ya. If i had millions, which i dont, 1 mil to make 20 aint so bad.