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set to overset you're going broke. What i find my biggest leak to be is AA through QQ, board of all undercards. If you get reraised, how many of you can make the correct move, meaning fold to the set and play against the under pair or tptk. I find that people play TPTK and a set similarly, and it's very hard for me to get away from a big pair, since i've called so many times and been right. (i've had people go over the top of me with middle pair) Any suggestions on how to deal with getting reraised with AA-QQ on a rag board? (limits are 25 and 50 nl)

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set to overset you're going broke.  What i find my biggest leak to be is AA through QQ, board of all undercards.  If you get reraised, how many of you can make the correct move, meaning fold to the set and play against the under pair or tptk.  I find that people play TPTK and a set similarly, and it's very hard for me to get away from a big pair, since i've called so many times and been right. (i've had people go over the top of me with middle pair)  Any suggestions on how to deal with getting reraised with AA-QQ on a rag board?  (limits are 25 and 50 nl)
This is always hard to figure out. First we need to figure out how the had was played out. Did someone limp with small pp and the call your raise? Do they check call there after? Is this cash game or tourney? What are the pot odds? Do you need to go buct on this hand if you are worng?More often than not i am willing to lay down when i have no read or if i dont have to jepordise my tournament life.
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talking about cash games. My tourney game can't be salvaged. For instance, this was an exact hand i played today. 50 nl on stars. I have around 40. I'm dealt KK in EP. I raise to 3.50, get 1 caller. Flop is 3 5 9. i raise 5 dollars, a little more than half the pot. He min raises to 10. What do you do?

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talking about cash games.  My tourney game can't be salvaged.  For instance, this was an exact hand i played today.  50 nl on stars.  I have around 40.  I'm dealt KK in EP.  I raise to 3.50, get 1 caller.  Flop is 3 5 9.  i raise 5 dollars, a little more than half the pot.  He min raises to 10.  What do you do?
whats is his position and yours?
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talking about cash games.  My tourney game can't be salvaged.  For instance, this was an exact hand i played today.  50 nl on stars.  I have around 40. I'm dealt KK in EP.  I raise to 3.50, get 1 caller.  Flop is 3 5 9.  i raise 5 dollars, a little more than half the pot.  He min raises to 10.  What do you do?
whats is his position and yours?
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talking about cash games.  My tourney game can't be salvaged.  For instance, this was an exact hand i played today.  50 nl on stars.  I have around 40. I'm dealt KK in EP.  I raise to 3.50, get 1 caller.  Flop is 3 5 9.  i raise 5 dollars, a little more than half the pot.  He min raises to 10.  What do you do?
whats is his position and yours?
ok well im going to assume he is not in the blinds.this is how i would play the hand after his min raise. Also assuming he has you covered in chips.his raise here may be a position raise if he has you on high cards. So in saying that i reraise here and make it 20 to go. If he comes back over the top all in well we have a decision to make. What is his table image? Has he been showing the nuts? Has he been pushing with top pair A kicker etc.You have to reraise none the less to find out some information on where you stand in the handalso if he did flop a set why would he min raise here with you betting into him?i think you have him here
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so did I. I pushed, he called, he had a set of nines. These hands kill me. If i reraise 20, instead of pushing, i have 10 left. There's no way i'm not putting that in on the turn, right?

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so did I. I pushed, he called, he had a set of nines. These hands kill me. If i reraise 20, instead of pushing, i have 10 left. There's no way i'm not putting that in on the turn, right?
thats a tough hand. you have to make your decision on reads. whether he has been loose agreesive, or tight etc.Either way unlucky. he hit a two outer
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Top pair or overpairs is probably the hardest hands to play, at least for me. Its tough to lay a hand down that is that strong.It seems to me that most of the time I call or push in that situation, I lose though. My experience would be that unless you have someone you think is playing aggressively, its better to lay down. Its often easier said then done though.

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Top pair or overpairs is probably the hardest hands to play, at least for me.  Its tough to lay a hand down that is that strong.It seems to me that most of the time I call or push in that situation, I lose though.  My experience would be that unless you have someone you think is playing aggressively, its better to lay down.  Its often easier said then done though.
easiest way to avoid this situation is to have a strong startign hand selection. I see most people go bust with A 8 - A 10 to overpairs. When you are playign these types of hands you want them to be suited, you're looking for the flush not to hit your kicker.
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Top pair or overpairs is probably the hardest hands to play' date=' at least for me. Its tough to lay a hand down that is that strong.It seems to me that most of the time I call or push in that situation' date=' I lose though. My experience would be that unless you have someone you think is playing aggressively, its better to lay down. Its often easier said then done though.[/quote'']easiest way to avoid this situation is to have a strong startign hand selection. I see most people go bust with A 8 - A 10 to overpairs. When you are playign these types of hands you want them to be suited, you're looking for the flush not to hit your kicker.[/quoteYes, I've already learned that lesson long ago. It's amazing how often I seem to run into two pair or trips or someone who was chasing hits on the turn. Its enough to make a person into a conspiracy theorist, crazy as that is!
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I have layed down a set on the flop before, but that was only once. I had a very strong read and lots of information on my opponent.Most of the time though, you'll want to play your set aggressively and hope to get it all in.

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It's almost impossible to get away from. Even Brunson mentions it multiple times in super system in the nlhe section about making sets. When you hit yours its hard to think someone else made a bigger noe and I'm sure he says most times your just going to have to pay it off cause its so hard to get away from

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