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My answer would have been the 4s 7s just because Daniel said the hand was "super interesting" and that would have been the case 4.

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Cast your vote here to guess what Daniel had in his hand. Here is the hand below in case you missed it:2:03pm: "Just played a SUPER interesting hand. Up to $17,500."2:04pm: "I made it $400 UTG LP call BB made it $1,200, call, call. Flop Qc 6c 4h. BB bet $1,500. Call, call. Turn 8. Check. I go all in for $9,625. LP player studies me for 5 minutes with bottom set! He lays it down. BB lays it down...What did I have? Tell you later..."2:09pm: "I showed the kid the 7 of spades and he is still talking about it. He is convinced I had 7 5 or 7 8...What do you think?!"
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The weird thing about Daniels description of the hand is when he says that the kid started going over Daniels possible hands after he saw the 7 as if it surprised him. What was he thinking about before he folded? If he laid down a set of 4s, he HAD to think Daniel had 7-5, QQ, 66 or 88. Which makes me wonder why Daniel showed the 7 at all (its not like when he showed Arieh the Qd to make him think that Daniel was just on a Draw and Arieh laid down the best hand)If Daniel wanted to get the kid off his game or induce future action, why not just show the 78?Obviously the Kid just wasnt thinking about what Daniel had at all. He must have just decided he didnt want to leave the tournament yet.I dont know if we can learn much from the way Daniel played this hand, but one thing for sure: the Kid could not have possibly played it worse. With 2 opponents, a flush draw and straight draw on the board, you have to put in a BIG raise on the flop with bottom set when acting last. If he thought he was trapping by flat calling the flop...he cant fold on the turn. Other than the board pairing, the only safer cards are 2,3 and maybe 10 (though BB may have TT)

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According to his blog, DN's read was a queen or a flush draw.So he bets all-in with 7s8s, amounting to a little more than the pot. What we don't know is if DN had Berkley covered.So, first, DN's read was wrong, but he got the result he wanted anyway.He bets big here because:a. he's losing to a queen and figures he can make a queen fold here - if the queen does call, he has several outsb. he's winning to a flush draw and i. won't cry if the flush draw folds ii. won't cry if the flush draw calls for a bad price with one card to dodgeHe bet to represent AA, KK, QQ, or AQ...it's apparent Berkley must have put him on QQ. DN may have even represented a made straight here, and in some ways did play it like a straight draw, but, judging by Berkley's reaction to the 7, it appears to me that Berkley did not put DN on the straight.It's also possible that Berkley was worried about the BB to act after him.A squeeze that was also probably on DN's mind - DN wasn't worried about the BB, but put Berkley in a position where he had to worry about the BB.There's definite third level thinking going on here with DN, and definitely 2nd level by Berkley - the funniest part is everybody's reads were wrong, but DN's bet got the result he anticipated anyway.

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There are a few reasons Daniel only showed one card:1) To put the guy on tilt, thinking he may have been bluffed out of a pot (this is why I think Daniel showed Josh Arieh only the Queen of diamonds.. and it worked! Josh bluffed at the wrong pot later and Daniel took him out of the tournament.)2) To make people (not just his opponent) realize that he could be playing any two cards at any time so they cannot put him on a hand3) To show he will play as aggressively with 7-2offsuit as he will with A-A. that is all.. :club:

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i find it funny that people are still voting for 7 5 and still posting that 7 5 is their guess after hes already told us the answer. :club:
yeah really....GO TO PAGE 2 PEOPLE
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DN made the wrong read on the flop regarding Berkley, saying he put him on a Q or flush draw. He made the correct read on the BB, thinking he was weak. He then acted accordingly on the turn, thinking he could get Berkley off a flush draw or the Q with his big bet, and thinking the big blind would fold as well. As it turns out, Berkley had a set of 4s and was putting DN on an overset. So DN got somewhat lucky there.Berkley should have forced the issue on the flop. Once the BB bet 1500 and DN called, Berkley should have come over the top if he thought he was ahead or folded if he thought DN had the overset. No need to wait for a scare card on the turn, especially with the flush and straight draws on the flop.

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I tell you why I voted 78 (likely suited):- First off from UTG, a raise with 75s/o is pretty nutty. I mean DN can play goofy and he 'projects' a wide hand range, but 75 UTG raise would be expensive way to advertise right?!? You have to flop pretty darn well to play 75 from UTG, or you have to have alot of good PF reads and your table image has to be significantly more intimidating (to bluff) than if you had 78s. DN still wouldn't deviate too far, too often from fundamentals no? While it is possible, it's less likely. - Other stuff about preflop The BB preflop reraise really narrows BB hand range (assuming not too tricky). What could he reraise an UTG raiser with? Most likely something like AK, AQ or PP, (my guess). DN reads not AA or KK so that further narrows the range. - Flop Given the flop texture Qc 6c 4h and BB's bet on the flop, BB is pretty much saying he has a pair (though it could be a set). Assuming BB is not too tricky, the pair means he can't have flush draw definitely no st draw. I guess that was one thing DN was thinking, he has a well defined situation.Now I would think vs a tightish player I now have alot of scare outs to a high probability bluff, straight / flush scare outs (how many??) . Those cards might just scare the crap out of the dude, (afterall it all 'fits' DN's hand range -haha). BB just wouldn't be able to call an all-in with a pair if a scare card came. If DN read him for just a pair (and that BB can fold), BB could even be afraid of a low 'two pair' or 'set'. I'm sure if BB is tightish / solid, he could think of lots of excuses to fold.Anyhow, I think Kiddo just calls the bet to see what Berk'e'ley (spell it right!) does. Unfortunately Berkeley calls, so DN probably has Berkeley on a flush draw, or a Q, not AA, KK (and I guess not a set!), however DN still has scare outs if no flush card comes. Turn card comes 8h, and it gives DN a pair and a gut draw, two pair draw / set draw, (no flush on board), but most importantly it gives him a great bluff opportunity. On the face of things it seems he has no pot odds to put his stack in there vs a pair (he needs like 4-1 against if a pair calls), but really his bluff equity is tremendous(!) vs a pair. Also he has a chance to improve to a hand that can win vs a pair. I.e. the gutter straight, two pair or set. Now if I put Berkeley on a flush draw he wouldn't have pot-odds to call either.- I thought the Berk'e'ley dude could have raised on the flop or called on the turn. I never read the original Super System before, but from what I hear about how it says to play suited connectors, this would be an interesting example hand!Interesting hand, I love it! :club:

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