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[No_Neck 0]

I have been playing one table of 6 max while watching TV in the evening, maybe 2 hours or so a night. Most of the time in the past I have been multi tabling at least 4 tables. I think it really messed up my play, I was playing way to robotic, and just playing my cards. I have once again realized that I am missing a ton of small pots that nobody wants. I mean it isn't like the players at 25NL are all the weak players are really weak and all the donkey players are really big donkeys.Anywho this is all probably just because I am running good, but we will see.

[zimmer4141 0]

Leaving for TS tomorrow morning, picking up Teddy on the way, then focusing solely on poker for about 10 days.

[wsox8 10]

Funny hand hehe, surprised I won itPoker StarsPot Limit Omaha TournamentBlinds: t400/t8008 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: t17599UTG+1: t26130MP1: t11668MP2: t4211Hero: t4314Button: t35615SB: t9336BB: t7748Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with A 3 6 2 UTG calls t800 (pot was t1200), 3 folds, Hero raises to t3600, 3 folds, UTG calls t2800 (pot was t5600).Flop: T 7 Q (t8400, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero is all-in t714, UTG calls t714 (pot was t9114).Turn: 8 (t9828, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9828)River: 6 (t9828, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9828)Results:Final pot: t9828

[wsox8 10]

Leaving for TS tomorrow morning, picking up Teddy on the way, then focusing solely on poker for about 10 days.

Good luck and bring back some good/happy stories

[Merby 3]

I have been playing one table of 6 max while watching TV in the evening, maybe 2 hours or so a night. Most of the time in the past I have been multi tabling at least 4 tables. I think it really messed up my play, I was playing way to robotic, and just playing my cards. I have once again realized that I am missing a ton of small pots that nobody wants. I mean it isn't like the players at 25NL are all the weak players are really weak and all the donkey players are really big donkeys.Anywho this is all probably just because I am running good, but we will see.

Very nice graph. I am the same way: in NLHE, I can handle 2 tables without any significant loss of BB/100 per table, but 3 or more and I notice a *significant* drop in BB/100 profit on each table.PLO is even worse: looking back over my session histories, *nearly* all my losing sessions were during periods where I was 2-tabling (or occasionally 3-tabling). I am sticking to a single table of PLO for now, while I feel that I am still learning the intricacies of the game.

[GabeTheKid 0]

GL zimmer at the TS. Unfortunately I can't make it there as I have completely failed to do anything about renting a car (my parents wont let me drive theirs.)Today, I played for more than usual (it's sad...1080 hands). I booked a +2BI day ($850ish) after almost 4 hours of play.All my sessions today were really short. I 3 tabled for 25 min and then stopped...and did that several times as I couldn't make myself play longer sessions and i also had stuff to do.Pretty pleased with that. Up almost 3.5k on the month so far :)going to browse the forum a bit, wait for my bro to get home from his g/f's so we can smoke a joint and watch a movie... then sleep. btw, GL to anyone who's heading to the turning stone..i wish i coulda made it I guess i'll have to wait a little longer to break my live poker virginity.

[PoppinFresh 0]

I call pf also. On the turn, guy bets, and another guy raises. You should fold right there. By just calling, you open yourself up to exactly what happened, where someone else still can shove even more on you and then you're really screwed.Mark

On the turn, pot is $25, someone bet 5 and someone raised to 14. Fold if you don't like money I guess

[wsox8 10]

I'm 10th of 12 left in a $5.50 PLO8 tourney on stars, but the sad thing is that if I go out now I only get $12.

[mln_falcon 0]

I'm 10th of 12 left in a $5.50 PLO8 tourney on stars, but the sad thing is that if I go out now I only get $12.

name for railing?

[Merby 3]

I'm 10th of 12 left in a $5.50 PLO8 tourney on stars, but the sad thing is that if I go out now I only get $12.

Railing (as you have already noticed)Nice triple up!Tournament #57261885PStars name: Wsox08

[wsox8 10]

edit: I still don't know why PLO8 is a game.The two chipleaders battled on the first hand at the final table.. wowPokerStars Game #11405887407: Tournament #57261885, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2007/08/10 - 01:04:01 (ET)Table '57261885 22' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: mzzooom (28484 in chips) Seat 2: PattiRoo (34114 in chips) Seat 3: Wsox08 (31552 in chips) Seat 4: AANYCAARDS (35788 in chips) Seat 5: skeetbeater (126417 in chips) Seat 6: gp-poker (55222 in chips) Seat 7: junkeymonkey (42255 in chips) Seat 8: KirbyA92 (17098 in chips) Seat 9: davejcbox (109070 in chips) AANYCAARDS: posts small blind 1500skeetbeater: posts big blind 3000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Wsox08 [Td 9d 9s 6s]mzzooom said, "gga"PattiRoo is connected gp-poker: folds junkeymonkey: folds KirbyA92: folds davejcbox: calls 3000mzzooom: folds PattiRoo: folds Wsox08: folds AANYCAARDS: folds gp-poker said, "jersey manhattan and LI here"skeetbeater: raises 7500 to 10500davejcbox: calls 7500*** FLOP *** [Qd 4d 2s]skeetbeater: bets 22500davejcbox: raises 67500 to 90000gp-poker said, "west cobb now"skeetbeater: raises 25917 to 115917 and is all-indavejcbox: calls 8570 and is all-in*** TURN *** [Qd 4d 2s] [5d]*** RIVER *** [Qd 4d 2s 5d] [2h]*** SHOW DOWN ***skeetbeater: shows [Ah 6d Jd Ad] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 6,5,4,2,A)davejcbox: shows [Qs Kc As 4s] (HI: two pair, Queens and Fours)skeetbeater collected 109820 from potskeetbeater collected 109820 from potjunkeymonkey said, "huge hand"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 219640 | Rake 0 Board [Qd 4d 2s 5d 2h]Seat 1: mzzooom folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: PattiRoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Wsox08 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: AANYCAARDS (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: skeetbeater (big blind) showed [Ah 6d Jd Ad] and won (219640) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 6,5,4,2,ASeat 6: gp-poker folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: junkeymonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: KirbyA92 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: davejcbox showed [Qs Kc As 4s] and lost with HI: two pair, Queens and Foursnow 1st has 219k, 2nd at 55k

[Merby 3]

Funny hand hehe, surprised I won itPoker StarsPot Limit Omaha TournamentBlinds: t400/t8008 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: t17599UTG+1: t26130MP1: t11668MP2: t4211Hero: t4314Button: t35615SB: t9336BB: t7748Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with A 3 6 2 UTG calls t800 (pot was t1200), 3 folds, Hero raises to t3600, 3 folds, UTG calls t2800 (pot was t5600).Flop: T 7 Q (t8400, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero is all-in t714, UTG calls t714 (pot was t9114).Turn: 8 (t9828, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9828)River: 6 (t9828, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9828)Results:Final pot: t9828

Now I finally understand your preflop raise here. The converter didn't say that this was PLO H/L, so I thought that was a strange hand to raise in PLO (Hi only)

[Merby 3]

Whee! Wsox is 3/8 now!

[wsox8 10]

Whee! Wsox is 3/8 now!

It's sad but I still don't really know how to play PLO8... I know LO8 but I've just been "learning"... Looks like no one else really knows how to play either

[Merby 3]

Ouch GG man!6th for $81.60 nice 16xROI

[wsox8 10]

Finished 6th for $81Here's how I lost.. I'm not happy with it, but I'm not a big fan of PLO8 since it's such a crapshoot and the blinds were huge.PokerStars Game #11406298102: Tournament #57261885, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XVI (3000/6000) - 2007/08/10 - 01:40:49 (ET)Table '57261885 22' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 3: Wsox08 (33604 in chips) Seat 4: AANYCAARDS (60538 in chips) Seat 5: skeetbeater (202215 in chips) Seat 6: gp-poker (54972 in chips) Seat 7: junkeymonkey (58544 in chips) Seat 8: KirbyA92 (70127 in chips) AANYCAARDS: posts small blind 3000skeetbeater: posts big blind 6000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Wsox08 [2s 4d 9s As]gp-poker: folds junkeymonkey: folds KirbyA92: folds Wsox08: raises 15000 to 21000AANYCAARDS: folds skeetbeater: raises 15000 to 36000Wsox08: calls 12604 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [Qc 7d 7c]*** TURN *** [Qc 7d 7c] [7s]*** RIVER *** [Qc 7d 7c 7s] [2c]*** SHOW DOWN ***skeetbeater: shows [Ah 9h Js 5c] (HI: three of a kind, Sevens)Wsox08: shows [2s 4d 9s As] (HI: three of a kind, Sevens - lower kicker)skeetbeater collected 70208 from potNo low hand qualified*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 70208 | Rake 0 Board [Qc 7d 7c 7s 2c]Seat 3: Wsox08 (button) showed [2s 4d 9s As] and lost with HI: three of a kind, SevensSeat 4: AANYCAARDS (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: skeetbeater (big blind) showed [Ah 9h Js 5c] and won (70208) with HI: three of a kind, SevensSeat 6: gp-poker folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: junkeymonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: KirbyA92 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[wsox8 10]

Ouch GG man!6th for $81.60 nice 16xROI

thanks for the rail.. I appreciate it even though it's not for thousands of dollars

[mln_falcon 0]

gg, nice cash. Todays lesson, don't call an allin drawing deadPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownMP ($26)CO ($33.45)Button ($37.40)SB ($33.10)Hero ($25)UTG ($43.05)Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A . 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO folds, Button calls $2.Flop: ($6.35) 6 , 4 , 3 (2 players)Hero bets $4, Button calls $4.Turn: ($14.35) 4 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $8, Hero raises to $18, Button calls $10.River: ($50.35) 2 (2 players)Final Pot: $50.35Results in white below: Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and fours). Button has Kc Qd (one pair, fours). Outcome: Hero wins $50.35.

[nutzbuster 7]

So I played tonight...only my 3rd session since starting my break from poker since the end of the WSOP. And yes folks....the sickest run of bad beats in my entire life just keep coming. They just....won't...STOP! I can not win to save my ass. I am convinced that this is in actuality a religious experience, that God is telling me to knock it the ****off already and just quit poker forever. I really have no words left to say just how bad I am running. I am totally poker broke. TOTALLY. Tonight I dropped my last 1400...and I really don't****ing care anymore.The first 3 buy ins were gone in less than one hour. Here are those hands.... On the button with $350 I get 6c-8c.MP2 raises to $25...I call.flop is 4h-5d-7s. MP2 bets $50. I re-raise $150 to $200 . He reraises back and I turbo shove ala Phil H.I show my straight and he shows pocket Kings. Exactly what I thought he had, woot!turn...5. River.....K. ARE YOUFUGGIN KIDDING ME/?????Hand 2, about 10 minutes later. Again on the button, I get Kd-Qd.SB bets out $20. I call. Flop is 10d-9d-5d.SB bets $60. I reraise $150, blah blah blah, all in.Turn, 9s, river brick, he has 9-10 and boats my stack.3rd hand..........oh forget it! Suffice it to say that thishit went on all night. Yada yadda, know one cares. Too bad. Always in with the best of it and screwed in the end. Makes ya just not wanna play.Anyway, thanks for the crying towel. Run good you donkeys.

[socalpoker_j 1]

So I played tonight...only my 3rd session since starting my break from poker since the end of the WSOP. And yes folks....the sickest run of bad beats in my entire life just keep coming. They just....won't...STOP! I can not win to save my ass. I am convinced that this is in actuality a religious experience, that God is telling me to knock it the ****off already and just quit poker forever. I really have no words left to say just how bad I am running. I am totally poker broke. TOTALLY. Tonight I dropped my last 1400...and I really don't****ing care anymore.The first 3 buy ins were gone in less than one hour. Here are those hands.... On the button with $350 I get 6c-8c.MP2 raises to $25...I call.flop is 4h-5d-7s. MP2 bets $50. I re-raise $150 to $200 . He reraises back and I turbo shove ala Phil H.I show my straight and he shows pocket Kings. Exactly what I thought he had, woot!turn...5. River.....K. ARE YOUFUGGIN KIDDING ME/?????Hand 2, about 10 minutes later. Again on the button, I get Kd-Qd.SB bets out $20. I call. Flop is 10d-9d-5d.SB bets $60. I reraise $150, blah blah blah, all in.Turn, 9s, river brick, he has 9-10 and boats my stack.3rd hand..........oh forget it! Suffice it to say that thishit went on all night. Yada yadda, know one cares. Too bad. Always in with the best of it and screwed in the end. Makes ya just not wanna play.Anyway, thanks for the crying towel. Run good you donkeys.

Nutz,Is this the 5-150 SLHE game @ Casino AZ? Also, buy some Mark-run-good-juice and profit.Sorry about the cards spitting on your correct decision making.So a no-go for you on the CAZ/Phoenix meet up?

[navybuttons 15]

Not entirely sure I agree with this. I would fold if the limpers didnt call, but now im getting good odds to call and see a flop. Also, you might fold the flop; but I only know one other person who would, and that's JFarrell. By the turn I've got TP and the nut flush draw, so that's where I was stuck..

seriously, gabe is right, it's not close. open fold preflop. when it's raised, well then you can go ahead and fold.when it's 2 bets to you on the turn any action but an insta-fold is a huge leak. huge.goodluck.

[navybuttons 15]

day 1: 526 hands total. +$196.day 2: DNPday 3: 1250 hands. +$340day 4: 2400 hands. -$295day 5: 1750 hands. -$65day 6: 2700 hands. +$15day 7: DNPday 8: 3333 hands. +$5day 9: DNPday 10: DNPdays 11&12: 3600 hands. +$440day 13: 2200 hands. +$250i'm playing pretty well and running super hot.here's to it keeping up.

[NoSup4U 0]

seriously, gabe is right, it's not close. open fold preflop. when it's raised, well then you can go ahead and fold.when it's 2 bets to you on the turn any action but an insta-fold is a huge leak. huge.goodluck.

If we're still talking about that A5s hand, I call pf there all day long. There are like 30 people in the pot for 5bbs right???I fold the turn too, although I didn't notice pot size. As Jeet pointed out, you're getting over 3-1 when you call the turn raise so I guess you could call. But given the reverse implied odds when you make your flush vs a boat, the fact that it will be hard to really get paid off on a flush, and the fact that you can call there and there are still about 5 people left who can raise again makes that a pretty bad situation for you I think.Mark

[TB17 0]

isn't there only spades on the flop? I wouldnt say it would be that hard to get paid on a flush if it comes runner runnerO and LOL at people who are saying fold preflop. after the raise.Couple more hours and it's TS time

[NoSup4U 0]

wsox, nice cash, congrats on the tourney!Nutz - sorry about CAZ. I believe that place is more rigged than online poker for sure. :(Mark