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Hey guys,Could you please help me out? I am posting three different hands and I want your oppinion on what I should have done. Also... please don;t just say you should have folded, etc. but tell me why. I really do want to start learning the game instead of just playing by what I feel is right. Thanks in advance for your help! :)First hand of discussion is folding with an ace before flop:*********** # 52 **************PokerStars Game #1372782406: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/03/17 - 20:03:28 (ET)Table 'Biarmia' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: laudace ($16.25 in chips)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 ($22.30 in chips)Seat 3: SlippyJacks ($28 in chips)Seat 4: wsopelika ($16.60 in chips)Seat 5: The_Caper ($32.25 in chips)Seat 6: theresa113 ($1.25 in chips)Seat 7: cmonster ($12.90 in chips)Seat 8: dosdosdos ($39.40 in chips)Seat 9: Spydy3454 ($3.25 in chips)Seat 10: RiverManard ($12.55 in chips)cmonster: posts small blind $0.10dosdosdos: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to theresa113 [8c As]Spydy3454: foldsRiverManard: foldslaudace: foldsRoyBattyX1: foldsSlippyJacks: raises $0.25 to $0.50SlippyJacks said, "hey Big AZ"theresa113 said, "this is weird, even the forum is kind of quiet tonight"SlippyJacks said, "(fear my raise)"wsopelika has timed out while being disconnectedwsopelika: foldswsopelika is sitting outThe_Caper: foldsMyranim [observer] said, "*Lacks the roll for $.25/$.50*"wsopelika has returnedtheresa113: foldscmonster: calls $0.40SlippyJacks said, "whats your roll"dosdosdos: folds*** FLOP *** [4s Kc Qh]RiverManard is sitting outcmonster: checksSlippyJacks: bets $0.25cmonster: foldsSlippyJacks collected $1.25 from potSlippyJacks: doesn't show hand*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1.25 | Rake $0Board [4s Kc Qh]Seat 1: laudace folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: SlippyJacks collected ($1.25)Seat 4: wsopelika folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: The_Caper folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: theresa113 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: cmonster (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 8: dosdosdos (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: Spydy3454 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: RiverManard folded before Flop (didn't bet)This time I played with the Ace because there was no raise before the hand. Was I risking after the flop? I know I tied on winning, but was it worth the risk?*********** # 50 **************PokerStars Game #1372793790: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/03/17 - 20:05:28 (ET)Table 'Biarmia' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: laudace ($14.75 in chips)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 ($22.30 in chips)Seat 3: SlippyJacks ($28.75 in chips)Seat 4: wsopelika ($16.60 in chips)Seat 5: The_Caper ($32.25 in chips)Seat 6: theresa113 ($1.25 in chips)Seat 7: cmonster ($12.40 in chips)Seat 8: dosdosdos ($39.05 in chips)Seat 9: Spydy3454 ($4.85 in chips)Spydy3454: posts small blind $0.10laudace: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to theresa113 [3h Ad]RoyBattyX1: calls $0.25SlippyJacks: foldswsopelika: calls $0.25The_Caper: foldstheresa113: calls $0.25cmonster: foldsdosdosdos: foldsSpydy3454: foldslaudace: checks*** FLOP *** [Qs Td 9d]theresa113 said, "Hey Lizzy, I forgot its St. Pattys day"laudace: checksRoyBattyX1: checkswsopelika: bets $0.25theresa113: calls $0.25laudace: calls $0.25RoyBattyX1: folds*** TURN *** [Qs Td 9d] [Ks]laudace: checkswsopelika: checkstheresa113: checks*** RIVER *** [Qs Td 9d Ks] [Jc]laudace: bets $0.50SlippyJacks said, "haha im gonna go out too i think"Myranim [observer] said, "where's the ace?"wsopelika: foldstheresa113: raises $0.25 to $0.75 and is all-inlaudace: calls $0.25*** SHOW DOWN ***theresa113: shows [3h Ad] (a straight, Ten to Ace)laudace: shows [Ac Kd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)laudace collected $1.70 from pottheresa113 collected $1.65 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $3.35 | Rake $0Board [Qs Td 9d Ks Jc]Seat 1: laudace (big blind) showed [Ac Kd] and won ($1.70) with a straight, Ten to AceSeat 2: RoyBattyX1 folded on the FlopSeat 3: SlippyJacks folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: wsopelika folded on the RiverSeat 5: The_Caper folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: theresa113 showed [3h Ad] and won ($1.65) with a straight, Ten to AceSeat 7: cmonster folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: dosdosdos (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Spydy3454 (small blind) folded before FlopOk... last one... should I have hung around? Not sure. (By the way, these aren't real interesting hands, but I will post more later. I rarely feel like I get a bad beat... I always feel like I am either not agressive enough or too agressive. Hopefully, you all can give me some insight.)*********** # 46 **************PokerStars Game #1372815957: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/03/17 - 20:09:20 (ET)Table 'Biarmia' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: laudace ($15.10 in chips)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 ($21.70 in chips)Seat 3: SlippyJacks ($28.25 in chips)Seat 4: wsopelika ($17.95 in chips)Seat 5: The_Caper ($32.75 in chips)Seat 6: theresa113 ($0.90 in chips)Seat 7: cmonster ($12.15 in chips)Seat 8: dosdosdos ($39.90 in chips)Seat 9: Spydy3454 ($3.50 in chips)wsopelika: posts small blind $0.10The_Caper: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to theresa113 [9d Kd]theresa113: calls $0.25Big A Z [observer] said, "I'm so used to party where I can find a full table of people who don't even know where to get a poker book at all times. It's a security blanket"cmonster: calls $0.25dosdosdos: foldsSpydy3454: calls $0.25laudace: calls $0.25RoyBattyX1: foldsSlippyJacks: foldswsopelika: foldsThe_Caper: checks*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 8c]theresa113 said, "Ok, I am at limit .25 on PM too"The_Caper: checkstheresa113: checkscmonster: checksSpydy3454: bets $0.25laudace: foldsSlippyJacks said, "i find that i kill the games at stars"SlippyJacks said, "more than any other site"The_Caper: foldstheresa113: foldscmonster: foldstheresa113 said, "felt guilty that I wasn;t representing : )"Spydy3454 collected $1.35 from potSlippyJacks said, "i make more than 10 BB an hour here"Spydy3454: doesn't show hand*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1.35 | Rake $0Board [6c 7c 8c]Seat 1: laudace folded on the FlopSeat 2: RoyBattyX1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: SlippyJacks (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: wsopelika (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: The_Caper (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: theresa113 folded on the FlopSeat 7: cmonster folded on the FlopSeat 8: dosdosdos folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Spydy3454 collected ($1.35)Thanks again for your replies! :D

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First Hand: Fold, it's an offsuit ace with only an 8 kicker, it's just not a good hand, don't play those.Second hand: Same thing here, fold this, it's the same thing but the kicker is even worse. Play these if they're suited and you think you'll have a few people in the hand with you, so you can go for a flush or 2 pair, if you don't get either of those, then fold on the flop. (Flush draw on flop)Third hand: I would fold this one too. K9s isn't good, especially in early position. The only time you might play this is if it gets folded around to you in late position and it might just be you and the blinds. As for sticking around.. with an open ended straight draw, you want about 4 1/2 to 1 odds to call this here. The pot is 1.60 and you have to put in .25 So you have about 6 to 1... you can call this if you want, but with only one other person in the hand, you can also easily fold because the implied odds aren't going to be extremely high. Also, if you call the flop, but don't hit the draw, I don't think you have the odds to see the river. Either way, I would have folded all 3.

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Hey guys,Could you please help me out? I am posting three different hands and I want your oppinion on what I should have done. Also... please don;t just say you should have folded, etc. but tell me why. I really do want to start learning the game instead of just playing by what I feel is right. Thanks in advance for your help! :)First hand of discussion is folding with an ace before flop:*********** # 52 **************PokerStars Game #1372782406: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/03/17 - 20:03:28 (ET)Table 'Biarmia' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: laudace ($16.25 in chips)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 ($22.30 in chips)Seat 3: SlippyJacks ($28 in chips)Seat 4: wsopelika ($16.60 in chips)Seat 5: The_Caper ($32.25 in chips)Seat 6: theresa113 ($1.25 in chips)Seat 7: cmonster ($12.90 in chips)Seat 8: dosdosdos ($39.40 in chips)Seat 9: Spydy3454 ($3.25 in chips)Seat 10: RiverManard ($12.55 in chips)cmonster: posts small blind $0.10dosdosdos: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to theresa113 [8c As]Spydy3454: foldsRiverManard: foldslaudace: foldsRoyBattyX1: foldsSlippyJacks: raises $0.25 to $0.50SlippyJacks said, "hey Big AZ"theresa113 said, "this is weird, even the forum is kind of quiet tonight"SlippyJacks said, "(fear my raise)"wsopelika has timed out while being disconnectedwsopelika: foldswsopelika is sitting outThe_Caper: foldsMyranim [observer] said, "*Lacks the roll for $.25/$.50*"wsopelika has returnedtheresa113: foldscmonster: calls $0.40SlippyJacks said, "whats your roll"dosdosdos: folds*** FLOP *** [4s Kc Qh]RiverManard is sitting outcmonster: checksSlippyJacks: bets $0.25cmonster: foldsSlippyJacks collected $1.25 from potSlippyJacks: doesn't show hand*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1.25 | Rake $0Board [4s Kc Qh]what's your question on this hand? you smartly folded PF. Axo is bad in almost any position uless your trying to steal or get a free look in the BigBlind. It certainly isn't worth calling a riase withThis time I played with the Ace because there was no raise before the hand. Was I risking after the flop? I know I tied on winning, but was it worth the risk?*********** # 50 **************PokerStars Game #1372793790: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/03/17 - 20:05:28 (ET)Table 'Biarmia' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: laudace ($14.75 in chips)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 ($22.30 in chips)Seat 3: SlippyJacks ($28.75 in chips)Seat 4: wsopelika ($16.60 in chips)Seat 5: The_Caper ($32.25 in chips)Seat 6: theresa113 ($1.25 in chips)Seat 7: cmonster ($12.40 in chips)Seat 8: dosdosdos ($39.05 in chips)Seat 9: Spydy3454 ($4.85 in chips)Spydy3454: posts small blind $0.10laudace: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to theresa113 [3h Ad]RoyBattyX1: calls $0.25SlippyJacks: foldswsopelika: calls $0.25The_Caper: foldstheresa113: calls $0.25cmonster: foldsdosdosdos: foldsSpydy3454: foldslaudace: checksthere is no point in playing Aragoff in any position unless for a steal or the Big Blind. Its worthless unless you hit two pair. Limping with Axsuited is a different story as you at least have nutflush possiblilties. Don't do this anymore*** FLOP *** [Qs Td 9d]theresa113 said, "Hey Lizzy, I forgot its St. Pattys day"laudace: checksRoyBattyX1: checkswsopelika: bets $0.25theresa113: calls $0.25laudace: calls $0.25RoyBattyX1: foldsthis is a fold. You only have a backdoor flush draw and nowhere near the odds to draw to it. You generally need about 15-1 to even begin to think of drawing to a backdoor flush*** TURN *** [Qs Td 9d] [Ks]laudace: checkswsopelika: checkstheresa113: checks*** RIVER *** [Qs Td 9d Ks] [Jc]laudace: bets $0.50SlippyJacks said, "haha im gonna go out too i think"Myranim [observer] said, "where's the ace?"wsopelika: foldstheresa113: raises $0.25 to $0.75 and is all-inlaudace: calls $0.25*** SHOW DOWN ****** SUMMARY ***Total pot $3.35 | Rake $0Board [Qs Td 9d Ks Jc]you got lucky here. Generally you shouldn't be in this hand to begin with as it usually costs you more in the long run than it works for you. Don't get into bad habits thinking about your good results, just stay disciplined and you'll do fineOk... last one... should I have hung around? Not sure. (By the way, these aren't real interesting hands, but I will post more later. I rarely feel like I get a bad beat... I always feel like I am either not agressive enough or too agressive. Hopefully, you all can give me some insight.)*********** # 46 **************PokerStars Game #1372815957: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/03/17 - 20:09:20 (ET)Table 'Biarmia' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: laudace ($15.10 in chips)Seat 2: RoyBattyX1 ($21.70 in chips)Seat 3: SlippyJacks ($28.25 in chips)Seat 4: wsopelika ($17.95 in chips)Seat 5: The_Caper ($32.75 in chips)Seat 6: theresa113 ($0.90 in chips)Seat 7: cmonster ($12.15 in chips)Seat 8: dosdosdos ($39.90 in chips)Seat 9: Spydy3454 ($3.50 in chips)wsopelika: posts small blind $0.10The_Caper: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to theresa113 [9d Kd]theresa113: calls $0.25Big A Z [observer] said, "I'm so used to party where I can find a full table of people who don't even know where to get a poker book at all times. It's a security blanket"cmonster: calls $0.25dosdosdos: foldsSpydy3454: calls $0.25laudace: calls $0.25RoyBattyX1: foldsSlippyJacks: foldswsopelika: foldsThe_Caper: checksthis hand is only marginally playable in late position and your playing it under the gun. You need to fold this as you can oly draw to one striaght, a second nut flush, and top pair with a soso kicker. Do you see the problems with this hand now. also by playing it here you are risking it getting raised and this hand is only worth limping with more often than not in late position. I'll complete with it and I'll take a free look in the Big Blind, but other than that this hand is going in the muck most of the time for me*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 8c]theresa113 said, "Ok, I am at limit .25 on PM too"The_Caper: checkstheresa113: checkscmonster: checksSpydy3454: bets $0.25laudace: foldsSlippyJacks said, "i find that i kill the games at stars"SlippyJacks said, "more than any other site"The_Caper: foldstheresa113: foldscmonster: foldstheresa113 said, "felt guilty that I wasn;t representing : )"Spydy3454 collected $1.35 from potSlippyJacks said, "i make more than 10 BB an hour here"Spydy3454: doesn't show hand*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1.35 | Rake $0Board [6c 7c 8c]Thanks again for your replies! :D

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first hand it was correct to fold preflop. Second and third hands should both have been folded preflop. Your preflop game is weak. If you are serious about poker you should buy Small Stakes Hold 'em by Ed Miller, the best book out there for small stakes games imo and it will tell you what works preflop and what doesn't. It would be a good start for you.

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Save yourself the money and don't buy any small stakes poker book.Here's your beginners book.Raise from any position with AA, KK, QQ.Nearly always raise with JJ from any position...if there are multiple people in for a raise and you have JJ, just call.Call up to 2 bets with 10s.Raise AK from any position.Raise with AQ, feel free to fold AQ if raised before you.Raise with AJ suited, fold otherwise.Limp with A10 suited.Call one bet with any PP if you have position.There you go.

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