jjgoldy5 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Just trying to get a feel for how these numbers look...I've been extremely profitable over this sample, but I think I'm simply on a major card heater.VPIP = 36%PFR = 6%WTSD = 25%W$SD = 63%Any input / numbers I can compare these to would be much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
Chamonyx 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Limit or Pot Limit? Link to post Share on other sites
jjgoldy5 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Limit or Pot Limit?Sorry, plo8 Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 VPIP is a little high, are you playing low limit? Link to post Share on other sites
jjgoldy5 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 VPIP is a little high, are you playing low limit?Yeah, low limits, 25/50/100 PL depending on the game. I'll also stick my neck into 1/2 and 2/4 Limit Games.I'll play more hands in the lower limits and donkish higher limits to stack overaggressive players who are trying to give away their stack. Link to post Share on other sites
Chamonyx 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I have 133 players in my recent db with over 300 hands.66 are winners and 67 are losers Winners: Losers:VPIP>36 12 1225-36 30 2320-25 9 21<20 15 11PFR:>9 14 76-9 11 123-6 23 301-3 15 170-1 3 1WTSD:30-35 14 1225-30 27 2720-25 21 20<20 4 8W$SD>70 19 365-70 18 460-65 13 1855-60 13 16<55 3 26As you can see, I have winners and losers with stats like yours.Your VPIP is at the top end, which is fine if you are on bad (low quality of play) tables.PFR suggests that you are raising AA plus some premium hands in position, which is fine.Your WTSD is a bit light, but this is consistent with seeing more flops on these tables.Good Luck Link to post Share on other sites
jjgoldy5 0 Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 I have 133 players in my recent db with over 300 hands.66 are winners and 67 are losers Winners: Losers:VPIP>36 12 1225-36 30 2320-25 9 21<20 15 11PFR:>9 14 76-9 11 123-6 23 301-3 15 170-1 3 1WTSD:30-35 14 1225-30 27 2720-25 21 20<20 4 8W$SD>70 19 365-70 18 460-65 13 1855-60 13 16<55 3 26As you can see, I have winners and losers with stats like yours.Your VPIP is at the top end, which is fine if you are on bad (low quality of play) tables.PFR suggests that you are raising AA plus some premium hands in position, which is fine.Your WTSD is a bit light, but this is consistent with seeing more flops on these tables.Good LuckYou can really tell that (you are correct about raising good hands in position) just from those numbers? I'm impressed. Thanks for the input sir. Link to post Share on other sites
FC2000 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Mainly playing $10 PL O8 at Stars:VPIP = 31%PFR = 3%WTSD = 25%W$SD = 63%Since my results over ~240hands are so similar, I guess I can draw the same conclusions... maybe raise a little more PF? Link to post Share on other sites
jjgoldy5 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 From my experience at low limit PLO8, the value in raising preflop comes from only HUGE hands like AA2 and maybe AA3.That way if you hit your low, the pot is only 2 or 3 handed and your AA has a better chance of being good for high.Other than that, there is some value in raising a bit with weaker hands (A23K with Ace suited). It seems like with a raise preflop, others are more reluctant to let their hands go if you hit the flop hard. Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 You are too loose and too passive if those stats persist.I raise about 15% of my hands on the button and about 5% UTG.If you're limping with strong hands, you're giving up a lot of potential value.But honestly, don't raise "more hands" just because your PFR looks low. Don't adjust your play based off of your stats. Your stats should just inform you to any potential leaks you may have. If you think you might be playing too many hands, figure out which hands you should and shouldn't be playing. You could have a 10k run where you have a 10% VP$IP and another with a 30% VP$IP, playing the same strategy the whole time. Granted, this is very very unlikely, but it's still possible.There are no "perfect" stats. You should play based on your opponents. For example, if the table is very loose and passive, you should play more loosely and more aggressively. Link to post Share on other sites
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