Turning $100 Into 2k @pp Playing Plo8, Session 7

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

Goal-Turn $100 into $2000 playing PLO8 at Party Poker.-I like what Smash've done, I hope that by doing this it will turn more players interested in plo8 and encourage discussions about the strategies beating this game.RulesI will play mostly PLO8 cash games, I may play some tournaments or SnGs when my BR grows.I will play mostly two tables at a time.I will start playing at the $25 level.When I hit $400 I will move to $50.When I hit $800 I will move to $100.When I hit $1400 I will move to $200.I will post hands that I won and lost and explain my thinking behind how I played them. Session 7A little bit of changesFrom now on I will update each session on a weekly basis, it's just too tedious to update it frequently. So each session update from now on will be a weekly update. I will be more likely to play half hour on Monday, one hour on Wednesday, etc. whenever I have time.SummaryThe previous session (6) was a loss session even it's about an hour, here's what I've found for my leaks.1. I've tried too hard to win to get this task done quick and I was a bit burned out. Trying to rush a turtle game is completely opposite to the points of winning plo8. I've always played more games than what I could handle. I guess I am overloaded. It's a good exercise for multitasking though.2. I've committed some basic errors once in a while, such as playing for the nut lows when I've no chance on the high, overplayed my flush when it's very obvious that someone have chased the boat (yeah they were donkeys but for me giving them the implied odds made me a donkey as well).Guess what I did when I wasn't playing well? I revisited Steve Badger's plo8 article and some others as well, took a couple of days off, refreshed my mind and last night I knew I was ready for a comeback.ResultsHours played in this session: 2Accumulated hours : 25 hoursBeginning BR: $230.46Ending BR: $324.25Money won this session: +$93.79Money won per table per hour in this session: ~$23.4 (i.e., 94 BBs per hour)Money won per table per hour overall: ~$4.5 (i.e., 18 BBs per hour, or about $9/h when two-tabling)Interesting HandsH1.Seat 1: bohmar ( $16.97 )Seat 3: SW20GT ( $31.12 )Seat 4: joelts3461 ( $20.59 )Seat 5: lumina1 ( $12.01 )Seat 6: bob4306 ( $1.98 )Seat 7: annbriar ( $7.45 )Seat 8: rccardshark ( $21.36 )Seat 9: Vappu ( $46.73 )Seat 10: hilogal2006 ( $51.05 )Seat 2: jkosfcp ( $25 )Vappu posts small blind [$0.10].hilogal2006 posts big blind [$0.25].rccardshark: yesssjkosfcp posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ 4h Ac Qh Js ]rccardshark: amazingrccardshark: no straightbohmar folds.jkosfcp checks.SW20GT folds.joelts3461 folds.lumina1 folds.bob4306 calls [$0.25].annbriar calls [$0.25].rccardshark folds.Vappu calls [$0.15].hilogal2006 checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Ah, Ad ]Vappu bets [$0.50].hilogal2006 folds.jkosfcp raises [$1.43].bob4306 folds.annbriar folds.Vappu calls [$0.93].** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]Vappu checks.jkosfcp bets [$3.50].Vappu calls [$3.50].** Dealing River ** [ Td ]Vappu checks.jkosfcp bets [$6].Vappu calls [$6].jkosfcp shows [ 4h, Ac, Qh, Js ] a full house, Aces full of jacks.Vappu doesn't show [ 5s, Ts, 8d, As ] a full house, Aces full of tens.If I knew villain rivered a smaller boat I would have potted it. But I think I actually should've potted it anyway since villain was committed more likely than not.H2Seat 1: NMGambler ( $44.44 )Seat 2: mule1324 ( $5.20 )Seat 4: EZ211 ( $29.67 )Seat 5: jony225 ( $37.21 )Seat 7: NIZZoo74 ( $5.80 )Seat 3: jkosfcp ( $25.25 )Seat 8: DokerDarty ( $26.05 )Seat 9: Remo76111 ( $27.70 )Seat 6: jay727 ( $19.75 )Seat 10: RiverRat31 ( $23.65 )jony225 posts small blind [$0.10].jay727 posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ 4c 2s Ac Ad ]NIZZoo74 calls [$0.25].DokerDarty folds.Remo76111 calls [$0.25].RiverRat31 calls [$0.25].NMGambler folds.mule1324 folds.jkosfcp raises [$1.60].EZ211 folds.jony225 calls [$1.50].jay727 folds.NIZZoo74 folds.Remo76111 folds.RiverRat31 calls [$1.35].** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Kc, 6c ]jony225 bets [$4.99].RiverRat31 calls [$4.99].jkosfcp is all-In [$23.65]jony225 is all-In [$30.62]RiverRat31 is all-In [$17.06]** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]jony225 shows [ 6h, Ks, 4d, 5h ] two pairs, kings and sixes.jony225 shows 6,5,4,3,A for low.RiverRat31 shows [ Kh, 3h, 9c, Qh ] two pairs, kings and nines.jkosfcp shows [ 4c, 2s, Ac, Ad ] three of a kind, aces.jkosfcp shows 6,4,3,2,A for low.jony225 wins $5.98 from side pot #2 with two pairs, kings and sixes.jony225 wins Lo ($5.98) from side pot #2 with 6,5,4,3,A.jkosfcp wins $1.60 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, aces.jkosfcp wins Lo ($1.60) from side pot #1 with 6,4,3,2,A.jkosfcp wins $34.35 from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.jkosfcp wins Lo ($34.35) from the main pot with 6,4,3,2,A.Not much to talk about, pretty standard play I think. I had no sympathy for them even they've flopped two pairs. I was willing to go all in because I had the nut low draw with CF protection and a nut flush draw.H3whougonnacal posts small blind [$0.10].jkosfcp posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ Ts Th Ah 7d ]pokerghost folds.GK3Ohio calls [$0.25].hilogal2006 folds.rccardshark folds.SGROCK folds.bluejean folds.mrroyboy111 folds.whougonnacal calls [$0.15].jkosfcp checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2h, Jc ]whougonnacal checks.jkosfcp checks.GK3Ohio checks.Since I was OOP with only second set, I choose to check to see what's going to develop.** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]whougonnacal checks.jkosfcp bets [$0.65].GK3Ohio calls [$0.65].pokerghost: not paying attention for the win lolwhougonnacal folds.** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]jkosfcp bets [$1.95].GK3Ohio raises [$3.90].jkosfcp raises [$11.70].GK3Ohio folds.jkosfcp does not show cards.jkosfcp wins $19.15I think I bet too much to scared my opponent away? How much would you have raised? Oh, I definitely didn't think my opponent had JJ because he would have played differently on the turn if not the flop. KK? I didn't think so.H4eat 1: NoBdyRyds4Fr ( $18.93 )Seat 7: WillyDeeE ( $59.67 )Seat 8: Fred67 ( $37.42 )Seat 9: rccardshark ( $14.48 )Seat 10: pokerghost ( $23.30 )Seat 4: jkosfcp ( $23.15 )Seat 5: DOJO9 ( $24.67 )Seat 2: john1499 ( $13.90 )Seat 3: endodug ( $14.75 )endodug posts small blind [$0.10].jkosfcp posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ 3d 2s Jc 4h ]DOJO9 calls [$0.25].WillyDeeE folds.Fred67 raises [$1.10].rccardshark folds.pokerghost calls [$1.10].NoBdyRyds4Fr folds.john1499 folds.endodug folds.jkosfcp calls [$0.85].DOJO9 calls [$0.85].** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 5d, Ah ]jkosfcp checks.tedrock1945 has joined the table.DOJO9 checks.Fred67 bets [$3].pokerghost folds.jkosfcp calls [$3].DOJO9 folds.** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]jkosfcp checks.Fred67 bets [$10].jkosfcp is all-In [$19.05]Fred67 calls [$9.05].** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]Fred67 shows [ Ac, As, Js, 6d ] three of a kind, aces.Fred67 shows 8,6,5,3,A for low.jkosfcp shows [ 3d, 2s, Jc, 4h ] a straight, ace to five.jkosfcp shows 5,4,3,2,A for low.jkosfcp wins $23.10 from the main pot with a straight, ace to five.jkosfcp wins Lo ($23.10) from the main pot with 5,4,3,2,A.As I posted before, it's ok to chase on the flop if you knew what you were doing, and you could fold your hand on the turn if your cards didn't hit, it's just simply because of the implied odds, and I had observed villain had overplayed his hands before.H5But I did make a good fold on the flop even I've raised this hand preflop, even though I could have won half of the pot. But on the flop I knew I was beat on the high already.Dealt to jkosfcp [ Ks Kd 3d As ]RichK3 calls [$0.25].bambellm calls [$0.25].tripmoney06 calls [$0.25].bambellm: nhbluejean folds.fbmoche: tyjkosfcp raises [$1.60].fbmoche folds.hurricane007 calls [$1.35].RichK3 folds.bambellm calls [$1.35].tripmoney06 calls [$1.35].** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Jc, 5h ]hurricane007 checks.bambellm checks.tripmoney06 bets [$6.45].jkosfcp folds.hurricane007 folds.bambellm is all-In [$3.97]** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]tripmoney06 shows [ Jh, Qs, 2c, Jd ] three of a kind, jacks.bambellm shows [ 5c, 7c, 3s, 2d ] two pairs, sevens and fives.bambellm shows 7,6,5,3,2 for low.tripmoney06 wins $2.48 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, jacks.tripmoney06 wins $7 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.bambellm wins Lo ($6.99) from the main pot with 7,6,5,3,2.H6The next hand is just a simple illustration that it's ok to try to steal the pot on a paired flop, but once you've got caller(s), you basically surrender the pot unless you know you villain(s) well and you know you could outplay them. But in general I don't suggest trying to outplay your villains in plo8, just be patience and let the hand plays for itself and win. It's slow but it's a sure way to win, the plo8 way.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ Qc 9h 2d As ]jkosfcp calls [$0.25].BillKays calls [$0.25].tedrock1945 folds.WillyDeeE calls [$0.25].bbbb10 calls [$0.15].endodug checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Ks, Jd ]bbbb10 checks.endodug checks.jkosfcp bets [$1.20].BillKays folds.WillyDeeE calls [$1.20].bbbb10 folds.endodug folds.** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]jkosfcp checks.bse2800 has joined the table.WillyDeeE checks.** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]jkosfcp checks.WillyDeeE checks.jkosfcp shows [ Qc, 9h, 2d, As ] a pair of jacks.WillyDeeE shows [ Jh, 8d, 9d, Ah ] three of a kind, jacks.WillyDeeE wins $3.50 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.There was no qualifying low hand.H7Total number of players : 5 Seat 9: rccardshark ( $14.33 )Seat 4: jkosfcp ( $49.70 )Seat 6: tedrock1945 ( $3 )Seat 5: BillKays ( $21.48 )Seat 10: bse2800 ( $28.20 )bse2800 posts small blind [$0.10].jkosfcp posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ 9d Ah Jd Kd ]BillKays calls [$0.25].tedrock1945 folds.rccardshark folds.bse2800 calls [$0.15].jkosfcp checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 5s, Kc ]bse2800 checks.jkosfcp bets [$0.75].BillKays calls [$0.75].bse2800 folds.** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]jkosfcp checks.BillKays bets [$2.15].jkosfcp raises [$4.30].BillKays calls [$2.15].** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]jkosfcp bets [$8.43].BillKays folds.jkosfcp does not show cards.jkosfcp wins $18.78Anyone has better idea on how to extract more values on this hand?H8In hand 4 I chased my low to scoop so on the other hand when I had only high with no high redraws or low draws I basically gave it up on the flop (even though I could have won the high pot).Dealt to jkosfcp [ As 8h Th 2c ]bluejean folds.jkosfcp calls [$0.25].fbmoche calls [$0.25].hurricane007 calls [$0.25].Soundsmadeup calls [$0.25].RichK3 calls [$0.15].tripmoney06 checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Ad, Ts ]RichK3 checks.tripmoney06 checks.jkosfcp checks.fbmoche bets [$1].hurricane007 folds.Soundsmadeup calls [$1].RichK3 folds.tripmoney06 calls [$1].jkosfcp folds.** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]tripmoney06 checks.fbmoche bets [$4.30].Soundsmadeup calls [$4.30].tripmoney06 folds.** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]fbmoche bets [$12.45].Soundsmadeup is all-In [$4.28]fbmoche shows [ 4d, 2s, 4s, 3s ] a pair of fours.fbmoche shows 6,4,3,2,A for low.Soundsmadeup doesn't show [ Ks, 5s, 3c, Qh ] high card ace.Soundsmadeup doesn't show 6,5,3,2,A for low.H9When you have the nut high, it's good to call passively to let the lows fight for the half.bambellm posts small blind [$0.10].tripmoney06 posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to jkosfcp [ 9h 8s 4c Ah ]bluejean calls [$0.25].jkosfcp calls [$0.25].fbmoche folds.hurricane007 calls [$0.25].RichK3 calls [$0.25].bambellm calls [$0.15].tripmoney06 checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 8h, 2s ]bambellm checks.tripmoney06 checks.bluejean bets [$0.25].jkosfcp calls [$0.25].hurricane007 calls [$0.25].RichK3 folds.bambellm calls [$0.25].tripmoney06 calls [$0.25].** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]bambellm checks.tripmoney06 checks.bluejean bets [$0.25].jkosfcp calls [$0.25].hurricane007 raises [$0.50].bambellm calls [$0.50].tripmoney06 calls [$0.50].bluejean raises [$5.15].jkosfcp calls [$5.15].hurricane007 is all-In [$7.01]bambellm folds.tripmoney06 folds.bluejean calls [$2.11].jkosfcp calls [$2.11].** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]bluejean bets [$0.25].jkosfcp raises [$10.57].bluejean is all-In [$4.08]jkosfcp shows [ 9h, 8s, 4c, Ah ] a flush, ace high.jkosfcp shows 8,7,4,2,A for low.hurricane007 shows [ As, Tc, 5h, 3h ] a flush, eight high.hurricane007 shows 7,4,3,2,A for low.bluejean shows [ Ac, 5c, Ts, 2h ] two pairs, sevens and twos.bluejean shows 7,5,4,2,A for low. Now anyone wanna give me some pointers on shorthanded LO8 plays? I am lost in the maze. I do fine in the full ring games ($5/$10, $10/$20), but when it goes to 3 players or HU I am completely loss. I play much better on SH plo8 though because of the pot size control and implied odds.

[Wingmaster05 0]

I like what you're doing, i took a break from O8 to continue moving up in holdem. A trip back to omaha would be a nice break.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

I've been cold-decked since last week at PP. I was up about ~$10, but lost $11 in a Plo8 SnG (finished 4th or 5th, don't remember, when the blinds got huge and it's a gambling fest with A2xx, A3xx) after about 2 hours of play. As for my other games, it's both bad and good. It's bad because I was either winning or losing peanuts so it was about break-even since last two weeks (I've been cold-decked at plo8 as well). It's good because I've been playing "mixed-games" simultaneously. One table of plo, one table of plo8, one table lo8, then another table of either plh, nlh, Stud8, or nlh SnG. I am getting good at handling different games at the same time. What I realized was, as I haven't paid attention before or I didn't care, the juiciest game is plo. I am migrating to that game. Someday I will do another turning $50 into $1000 in plo and that will be much quicker but with the swings I will have to start at the penny tables though.I will update another session by the end of this week.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

I will update another session by the end of this week.

As usual, looking forward to it.

Someday I will do another turning $50 into $1000 in plo and that will be much quicker but with the swings I will have to start at the penny tables though.

You could theoretically get to $1000 playing PLO8 and then finish getting to $2000 playing PLO as like a 2nd part to the "project." Just a suggestion.

[BlueDev 0]

I'm just starting to play PLO8 myself, so I'm finding your reports very helpful. Thanks for the insight into the low limit game (which is where I'll be spending my time).