draw out of position

[Snowman 0]

MP1: 12.5/10.9/1.0 - 64 handsMP3: 35.3/23.5/4.5 - only 17 handsParty Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [7s], [Ks]. MP3 posts a blind of $2. 2 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) [8h], [6s], [4s] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) [6c] (3 players)Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.River: (9.25 BB) [5d] (3 players)Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.Final Pot: 11.25 BB

[screech 0]

I would have 3-bet the flop. MP1 could easily have a better king. I want him to fold it.Everything else is good.

[Actuary 3]

c/r flop.one of these aggs will bet.I c/3-bet joyously. if I can

[Sysvr4 0]

You have well more than enough equity to 3-bet the flop.Check/call the turn when you don't improve if it's still two opponents.River is pretty easy...Jeff

[Snowman 0]

My main question in this hand was whether to bet/call, bet/raise or check/raise this flop.What should my main goal be here? I bet/call because I didn't want to drive out MP1 by making it 2 cold to him. I figured my equity is bigger with him still in (even though he possibly makes two king outs dirty). Is this wrong?I think check-raise is a good option too, but if MP1 checks and MP3 bets, then the above question is still valid.I also considered check-raising the river, but I really don't want it checked through, plus by betting I could get another BB from MP1. The flop is more interesting, I think.

[DrZebra 0]

Bet/raise the flop--you want as much money in there supporting your monster draw, c/r will knock out the tight MP1.Lead out on the turn--why give up your possible fold equity when the BB rolls around? not to mention you would be getting more than enough odds to draw if you successfully 3-bet the flop.

[screech 0]

What should my main goal be here? I bet/call because I didn't want to drive out MP1 by making it 2 cold to him. I figured my equity is bigger with him still in (even though he possibly makes two king outs dirty). Is this wrong?

If your raise drives out MP1, your equity will normally increase by about 10% if he has a king (or if he has a hand like Ax that would have outdrawn you on the river). The pot is a bit over 10sb when it gets back to you, so your raise in effect buys you 10% of that pot (1sb) if it drives MP1 out. In this sense, your 3-bet will earn you more than if you just called (0.35 x 12sb). Also, if you had just called (occassionally MP might fold for 1 bet anyway). But, if MP calls the 3-bet a small fraction of the time, you make a lot more than if you simply called when he has a hand like JJ.

[Actuary 3]

there I go again wanting to c/r into a pfr when I have a big draw.What am I getting confused with ?We can get two bets in this way.As played, we may end up HU and only 2 bets on flop.As played, I too, 3 -bet flop.

[Snowman 0]

What should my main goal be here? I bet/call because I didn't want to drive out MP1 by making it 2 cold to him. I figured my equity is bigger with him still in (even though he possibly makes two king outs dirty). Is this wrong?

If your raise drives out MP1, your equity will normally increase by about 10% if he has a king (or if he has a hand like Ax that would have outdrawn you on the river). The pot is a bit over 10sb when it gets back to you, so your raise in effect buys you 10% of that pot (1sb) if it drives MP1 out. In this sense, your 3-bet will earn you more than if you just called (0.35 x 12sb). Also, if you had just called (occassionally MP might fold for 1 bet anyway). But, if MP calls the 3-bet a small fraction of the time, you make a lot more than if you simply called when he has a hand like JJ.

Excellent. Thanks.

[mk 11]

posting blind.i'd 3-bet the flop and lead the turn with the fd/gs/overs. MP3 is insane. All your outs are probably clean.