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NL Holdem section in 2 is a rewrite of SS1.SS1 covers different games, but mostly outdatedDraw: deadStud High: falling out of favorStud Hi-Lo, no qualifier: deadRazz: minimal coverage, but that's more than 2Single Draw Lowball: mostly deadLimit Hold 'Em is different in SS1, and useful but inferior to that in SS2All math and tables is available elsewhere more cheaply and efficientlySS2 covers modern games and has sections on tourney play, the new limit holdem section, covers stud/8, omaha, omaha/8, 2-7 triple drawUnless you plan to play stud or razz, or you want the original limit holdem section (you shouldn't), just get 2

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NL Holdem section in 2 is a rewrite of SS1.SS1 covers different games, but mostly outdatedDraw: deadStud High: falling out of favorStud Hi-Lo, no qualifier: deadRazz: minimal coverage, but that's more than 2Single Draw Lowball: mostly deadLimit Hold 'Em is different in SS1, and useful but inferior to that in SS2All math and tables is available elsewhere more cheaply and efficientlySS2 covers modern games and has sections on tourney play, the new limit holdem section, covers stud/8, omaha, omaha/8, 2-7 triple drawUnless you plan to play stud or razz, or you want the original limit holdem section (you shouldn't), just get 2
The 7-stud section is amazing, when I've been in mixed games with stud, I just rely on my Chip Reese :D Razz - just get 2+2s hi/lo split book its implied there in the stud 8OB.
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if you are qa big stud fan, then everything that chip reese says in it applies today, other than that, yeah get SS/2. There might be a way to get the stud section, it is really good and really well written

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i got both, SS2 is more recent and updated (prolly better too), but both have very useful information :spade:BTW, you can pick up both at Amazon for around $20/each (that's what I did...and 2/3 day air is only $6 extra (free if order is over $50)

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Stud High: falling out of favor
ehhh...wrong. Stud is still the main game played across america. If you go to any casino that has a poker room north of the Mason Dixie line you'll find plenty of stud games being spread. In AC many of the holdem games get started because people are waiting for a stud table
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It's so funny that NL Hold em is a rewrite from SS1 given the total explosion of the game in the last few years. I mean, I'm sure things have changed "somewhat" since SS1. They should have revised it a little bit at least.
doyle actually mentions that in SS2, he says he sat down to try and revise the chapter for modern times, but he didn't see anything he didn't agree with lol
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doyle actually mentions that in SS2, he says he sat down to try and revise the chapter for modern times, but he didn't see anything he didn't agree with lol
actually I have to agree with Dolly here. Many people are upset that he didn't add much new to it, but if you go through, what does he really need to change. Everything holds true today same with the stud section in SS1
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The only useful sections of Super System 1 that can be applied today is the Seven Card Stud section, 2-7 No Limit section, the brief Razz tutorial, and the No Limit Hold'em section. The Limit Hold'em section is a little too simple, seven card stud high/low is basically bead, A-5 is played triple draw, and high card draw is dead. I say only buy the original Super System if your are unterested in playing Seven Card Stud and no limit 2-7. For Razz go to Sklansky.

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