GamblinLeaf 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 in reality he played 10-20 and on good runs 20-40Nope. He was a regular at $150-$300 hold'em for several years. He speaks candidly on his website about why he moved to lower stakes in 2002 ... he spent a good chunk of his bankroll on a house. Link to post Share on other sites
DCWildcat 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 in reality he played 10-20 and on good runs 20-40Nope. He was a regular at $150-$300 hold'em for several years. He speaks candidly on his website about why he moved to lower stakes in 2002 ... he spent a good chunk of his bankroll on a house.You must be a loch ness believer! Link to post Share on other sites
GamblinLeaf 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 You must be a loch ness believer!She prefers to go by "Nessie". Really gentle animal, actually ... Link to post Share on other sites
DCWildcat 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last . Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call. Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade. Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades. The flop comes 7s-3s-2s. Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw. The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind. The river brings a non-spade 9. Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000. It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing? Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last  .  Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call.  Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade.  Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades.  The flop comes 7s-3s-2s.  Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw.  The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind.  The river brings a non-spade 9.  Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000.  It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing?How many chips did this other guy have? How many were in the pot? What position did the raise come from? You guys have to think about more than the cards... Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last  .  Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call.  Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade.  Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades.  The flop comes 7s-3s-2s.  Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw.  The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind.  The river brings a non-spade 9.  Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000.  It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing?How many chips did this other guy have? How many were in the pot? What position did the raise come from? You guys have to think about more than the cards...Quite a catch regardless. Must be tough to sit down all day with that horseshoe up his censored. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 ...would it be considered the greatest poker achievement of all time?? It's an easy answer. Drumroll please... Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last  .  Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call.  Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade.  Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades.  The flop comes 7s-3s-2s.  Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw.  The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind.  The river brings a non-spade 9.  Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000.  It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing?How many chips did this other guy have? How many were in the pot? What position did the raise come from? You guys have to think about more than the cards...Quite a catch regardless. Must be tough to sit down all day with that horseshoe up his censored.Lmao, this is very true. I just don't want to write it off as a bad call yet. Link to post Share on other sites
DCWildcat 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last  .  Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call.  Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade.  Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades.  The flop comes 7s-3s-2s.  Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw.  The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind.  The river brings a non-spade 9.  Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000.  It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing?How many chips did this other guy have? How many were in the pot? What position did the raise come from? You guys have to think about more than the cards...Custom, the only real live draw he could have would be that running straight or running trips (maybe running 8's up), which will most likely get killed by a flush 1/3 of the time.So he'd have to be getting well over 20-1 to make that call.That does not happen in NLHE tournaments with a big stack involved in the hand. Period. You know that. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last  .  Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call.  Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade.  Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades.  The flop comes 7s-3s-2s.  Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw.  The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind.  The river brings a non-spade 9.  Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000.  It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing?How many chips did this other guy have? How many were in the pot? What position did the raise come from? You guys have to think about more than the cards...Custom, the only real live draw he could have would be that running straight or running trips (maybe running 8's up), which will most likely get killed by a flush 1/3 of the time.So he'd have to be getting well over 20-1 to make that call.That does not happen in NLHE tournaments with a big stack involved in the hand. Period.They went all in preflop. If he thinks he's a 2-1 dog (AK is 2-1 against, say, 6-4, right?), and he's getting 2-1 or better on his call, this is an understandable play, no? Link to post Share on other sites
DCWildcat 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Oh, sht, he made that call preflop.My bad, thought he made that call after the flop.This'll be the 2nd time I apologize to you for being a dick 8) Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Cardplayer doesn't seem to be too enthused about him.Gen Wattanabe goes all-in for his last  .  Greg mentions that he knows he's behind, but decides to call.  Wattanabe shows J-J with one spade.  Raymer turns over 8-6 - no spades.  The flop comes 7s-3s-2s.  Raymer has no pair, and no solid draw, while Wattanabe still has an overpair and a flush draw.  The turn is a non-spade 5, giving Raymer an open ended straight draw, but he's still behind.  The river brings a non-spade 9.  Raymer hits his runner-runner straight, busts Wattanabe, and is now sitting atop a stack of $1,600,000.  It'd be one thing if Raymer tried to bluff at this, but to call with it?What in the hell is he doing?How many chips did this other guy have? How many were in the pot? What position did the raise come from? You guys have to think about more than the cards...Custom, the only real live draw he could have would be that running straight or running trips (maybe running 8's up), which will most likely get killed by a flush 1/3 of the time.So he'd have to be getting well over 20-1 to make that call.That does not happen in NLHE tournaments with a big stack involved in the hand. Period.They went all in preflop. If he thinks he's a 2-1 dog (AK is 2-1 against, say, 6-4, right?), and he's getting 2-1 or better on his call, this is an understandable play, no? Knowing it was preflop makes the call a little more acceptable without knowing the pot odds he was calling to. Just amazing he pulled it out after that flop... Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Oh, sht, he made that call preflop.My bad, thought he made that call after the flop.This'll be the 2nd time I apologize to you for being a dick 8):lol:It's all good. I don't know what it's like to make mistakes, but I'm sure it's not that big of a deal. 8) Link to post Share on other sites
Dixie Wrecked 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Some consider Harrington's back to back final tables last year the greatest accomplishment.So, if Raymer just makes it to the final table but doesnt win, would that be the greatest accomplishment ever? Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Raymer call- I think that call might set him up for later. I think a player in front of him may think twice about trying to steal his blinds with a garbage hand when he's projecting the image he will call you. Link to post Share on other sites
murphy77 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 his tourney record was fing maizing. 30 tourneys 10 1st places, almost always at the final table. that is way more impressive than winning two tournies. Granted the fields are bigger but hell, 10,000 fish or 500 fish, is not to much different.Kinda easy to be almost always at the final table when almsot all the 10k+ buyin events you play start with 10 or less people. Link to post Share on other sites
DCWildcat 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 no, the raymer call isn't that bad at all with his chip stack Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Greg Raymer is not a bad poker player, but to call him the best big stack player in the game is ludicrous. He's only won one tournament. A big one, but it doesnt give him the credibility to be the "best big stack player." Especially when you consider the fact that he had the big stack yesterday and lost it and almost went out. Link to post Share on other sites
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