Top Pair Against Competent Opponent

[SCS 0]

maybe to a big one but getting people to fold two pair is kinda silly imo.

For a thinking player calling a raise on the river on this board would be pretty tough. Not saying he'd fold, but he'd certainly have to think about making a call here.

[simo_8ball 0]

The problem I had was that I'd rivered two pair on a board where every single draw got there (45, 89 and spades).That's why my bet looks weird. If I bet bigger he doesn't call with worse hands very often, but if I check I have to call a bigger value bet when it's likely I'm beaten.

[Sheiky 0]

Only a little. :)I'd say it's borderline.

[NoSup4U 0]

Why are people saying villain is going to bet/fold to a raise KT which is top two pair here? And why would we want to bluff raise him when we have top pair?Hand seems pretty simple imo. Raise pf. Calling and raising flop are both probably fine depending on villain. Call turn (or bet if checked to and flush bricked), Bet or call river. Fold if villain ever raises you.Mark

[trystero 0]

Why are people saying villain is going to bet/fold to a raise KT which is top two pair here? And why would we want to bluff raise him when we have top pair?Hand seems pretty simple imo. Raise pf. Calling and raising flop are both probably fine depending on villain. Call turn (or bet if checked to and flush bricked), Bet or call river. Fold if villain ever raises you.Mark

^^You call here because your hand's got showdown value. The price is attractive, and just as you don't "expect" kings to suck out against aces, so you don't "expect" to be good here, if the opponent's competent. But you should at least break-even, and it's usually better to call, both for image purposes and to gain information about his hand (of course, he also gains information about yours, which you can manipulate at a later point and time).