Wrapunzel

[BudBundy 0]

BB is 19/16/7.96 1500 handsButton is 28/12/5.23 350 handsBoth are decent players.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $36.35UTG+1: $49.50CO: $83.50Button: $59.45SB: $36.65Hero: $75.55Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 3 7 6 5 UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO raises to $2.25, Button raises to $8, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.Flop: 4 5 Q ($32.25, 4 players)Hero bets $32.25Why?Why not?

[KoRnholio 2]

I muck this preflop. Pot+repot in front of us, very low card hand that needs a perfect flop to play, no guarantee that we'll even see a flop (if CO 4bets) and we're out of position.But now that we are here.. With 4 people taking that flop someone probably has a flush draw, leaving us with 12 clean outs if called. Betting out for pot also leaves us with $35 left behind, so we're committed to calling a raise behind us. I would just check and hope for a small callable bet or a free card. If there is too much action behind after we check, fold it.

[simo_8ball 0]

Why?

Because it's sexy, goofy and +EV.

Why not?

In NLHE this kind of play could class as tilt.I play it the same.I'm never folding this hand preflop. Especially multiway.

[BigLebowski 0]

Well, if you are going to put $7.50 into the pot pf OOP I def like the flop bet. The only thing we couldn't have liked were the two spades.If these guys are that good they would have had to of hit that hard to call or push right? Even if they have AsKsQQ you still have outs. I just can't see a flush draw calling without a Q or straight draw so the number of hands that call or push are few and far between.

[BudBundy 0]

I thought a very naked FD would fold to that bet.876x would fold.Two pairs fold.I am flipping against top set.Actually i was counting on my fold equity a lot on this move. I don't mind getting it all in against top set OR FD , not both.Also do you seriously fold this preflop? I thought preflop raisers are playing for stacks , but i can easily fold if missed flop. I think this is what they call reverse implied odds for them.

[triplem93 0]

It's a fold preflop everytime preflop. If for some reason you do see a fold with a hand like this you have to play it for stacks.

[simo_8ball 0]

It's a fold preflop everytime

Hi.Explain.You realise that if we get in a 3-way allin preflop against AAxx and (say) KKQJ we are massively +EV, right?

[triplem93 0]

You're FD's can easily be dead. If you're gonna call OOP here because you put these people on those types of hands, why not re-raise and get the money in when you are +EV. OOP this hand is very hard to play.

[simo_8ball 0]

If you're gonna call OOP here because you put these people on those types of hands, why not re-raise and get the money in when you are +EV.

If we shove preflop, CO probably folds and we get HU as a 57/43 (or thereabouts) dog. By calling preflop we get a large 3-way pot with good equity.