JFarrell20

Putting aside the fact that you mistakenly believe my completion in this pot was a mistake, how do you play this if a King falls on the turn with 4 people behind you?I've posed this query to two people now and I'm interested to see how you two try to reason the turn play in this scenario! Check it down; fold to any betThanks for proving my point. It's futile staying in as there is a 99.9% chance someone fires out on the turn behind my check. And firing out on the turn isn't really my cup of tea either. I'm sure it will cut down the field but why fire out if I'm so easily dominated? No reas

If a k or 6 hits on the turn or river, check it down and if you're lucky, you can take down the small pot. Fold to any bet as it's to easy to be dominated..If a K or 6 falls on the turn and I check, there's no way in H.ell it's getting checked around again. Someone else will at least represent the King, and I would have no reason to not believe them. It's not worth looking them up. There's no way in h.ell I'm going to take this pot down aside from a bluff, which I don't want to do at this point in the tourney."Fold to any bet as it's too easy to be dominated."Thank you.

Putting aside the fact that you mistakenly believe my completion in this pot was a mistake, how do you play this if a King falls on the turn with 4 people behind you?I've posed this query to two people now and I'm interested to see how you two try to reason the turn play in this scenario!

How is this annoying??? What's the point of sticking around on this flop in a 5-way pot with K6? The same guys who tell me not to complete the SB here tell me to "stick in the hand cuz you might end up winning it" LOL.If I turn a King I still don't like the hand and I'm not prepared to invest in it. If I turn a 6, I'm even less likely to invest in it. There is no way I will be holding this hand as a winner by the end of the river, unless I go for a stone-cold bluff, which I have no reason to do right now.Why do I want to check here when folding might mean two others are more likely to go u

Public schools in America are learning forums too, but that doesn't mean they should spew stupidity either. Oh, wait, bad analogy. :wink:You should read some historical books. Most brilliant ideas (I'm not implying mine was) are initially deemed stupid by those who can't imagine. Oh, you live in a town where silverware is the #1 industry...hmm, try driving to Nashville and looking for books. And until you bring some ideas to this forum, Censor Off.

How is this annoying??? What's the point of sticking around on this flop in a 5-way pot with K6? The same guys who tell me not to complete the SB here tell me to "stick in the hand cuz you might end up winning it" LOL.If I turn a King I still don't like the hand and I'm not prepared to invest in it. If I turn a 6, I'm even less likely to invest in it. There is no way I will be holding this hand as a winner by the end of the river, unless I go for a stone-cold bluff, which I have no reason to do right now.Why do I want to check here when folding might mean two others are more likely to go u

That thread was undoubtedly the most godawful stupid thing I've ever read. I love on the first page when people tell him it's stupid, he then proceeds to call THEM stupid for not understanding his brillance. Classic.Thanks. I could easily post under a different name if this crap really bothered me but it doesn't so go on calling me a moron, I'm going to continue posting thoughts on here. Oh wait...this isn't a learning forum? I forgot, it's a Sklansky-bot's-R-us forum. Whoops.

Maybe this "strategy" would have some tiny value in the late stages of a satellite tournament. Otherwise, it's weaker than Michelob Ultra. Tells us again how GambleAB sucks at MTTs. I'm sure even he would laugh himself silly at this "strategy".First of all it's by no means my "strategy". It's just an observation I made for the first time and I was wanting to get people's thoughts on it.I search through all the FullTilt tourney's and his name consistently shows up out of the money. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I've noticed he doesn't place very well very often.

Who is this guy and why does he s.uck so badly?I see his name on a bunch of large entry $100+ buyin MTT's on FullTilt and he never seems to place. Is he just some independently wealthy shmuck who calls himself a "pro" now because he plays a lot of tourneys?Also, Rafe Furst is awful. I know he's a good friend of Gordon's, but he s.ucks. Rafe plays the $200 + 16 tourney's also... was he the guy that travelled the country with Phil Gordon doing that sports show? Cuz I know he didn't make all this money from poker.Thoughts, comments...

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you really need to show us what the 'X' cards are on here. But anyway, yeah fold A8off in MP. Why'd you play your K10suited so aggressively post-flop? Jeez, top pair? Top pair ain't shiznit.and finally...heed the advice in the quote of your signature!"DAS POKA BA-BEEEE!"Then go smoke a bowl.

It doesn't have to win 10% of the time. Factor in post-flopimplied odds, then get back with me. It only has to win 10% of the time if I flop something good, bet out and it folds around. If I bet and get action with the best hand then it's even more profitable. Besides, K6off might win more than 10% of the time against 4 callers anyway.Besides, we're getting off course. My question is: Do you think I'm better off folding or checking in first position on this flop?

Normally I don't complete there, but with 3 limpers, and a guy in the BB who hasn't raised much, I figured I could get in cheap and maybe land a lucky pot. If 2 people limp there I'm not even completing. With 3 limpers, I think it's worth it. If the BB is more aggressive than I don't limp.Calling 100 to possibly win 900 (when I have over 4K in chips) isn't a bad play at all. Sure, if I flop just a K or a 6, I'm not happy and I'll probably give it up, but if I land two pairs or better I'm feeling pretty good.

But does what I'm saying at least make some sense? In a tourney sometimes its better to "let the table know" that you arent calling any bet after you check just by folding when you have the option to check. It's not cheating b/c it doesn't directly help a particular opponent of which I have prior knowlege, but it can help me, in that, two opponents may be more likely to go up against eachother in this pot instead of one of them winning it without a fight. I do have an overcard, but I think seeing an opponent get knocked out is worth a lot more than my chances of winning this pot.

lol. Feel better yet?

if you got lucky on river....yesIf you had ebst hand, probably say good callbut you didntlol. Nice rusults-based logic. I'm going to bed. I'll reply in the morn'. Get some sleep!

I see your point but I disagree.

This was a hand I played in a NL 3-table SNG. My thinking is that I'd have been better off folding instead of checking. Almost always you should check even if you plan on folding to a min. bet but here I think it's better to fold. Lemme know what you think.#Game No : 1948180760 ***** Hand History for Game 1948180760 *****NL Hold'em Trny:11609124 Level:7 Blinds (100/200) - Sunday, April 24, 23:49:01 EDT 2005Table Three-Table(318135) Table #1 (Real Money)Seat 9 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8 Seat 1: JFarrell20 ( $4170 )Seat 2: ridesab ( $4085 )Seat 3: dcon374 ( $3405 )Seat 4: mura

Had I won the hand would you still ask why I called?

Because he bet 18K into a 2400 pot. Bottom pair crappy kicker is a monster head's up.And the difference in pay from 2nd to 1st was only 20%And b/c I'm down to about 8100 in chips and he's got 21,900 so my back is against the ropes.

Here are some of the hands from the $5+1 3-table NL SNG tourney I played tonight... (I know I know...5+1...but you start with more chips and I haven't played many lately so I'm trying to get the kinks out. Normally...stay away from 20% tourney tax!)#Game No : 1947789606 ***** Hand History for Game 1947789606 *****NL Hold'em Trny:11609124 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Sunday, April 24, 22:46:51 EDT 2005Table Three-Table(318135) Table #3 (Real Money)Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 1: ridesab ( $960 )Seat 2: JFarrell20 ( $1095 )Seat 3: shortsr ( $145 )Seat 4: chonkla ( $1150 )Sea

What's incorrect?You can't possibly say that his river bet/fold was correct. lol. I know for a fact that is incorrect strategy.

How much do you like the guy? lol. JK.No, technically I'd say it's not "cheating", this would fall under the "not going out of your way and helping" category.Don't feel bad. Just remind the guy later to pay attention to all 7 cards in play.

Fold on the flop raise.Folding pre-flop isn't terrible either as you won't have great odds to chase a set. But it's ok to call the raise preflop.Check/calling the flop isn't a bad idea. Betting probably is better, but the only reason to bet is to see where you are and clearly you are beat so fold it!Why did you bet the turn after being raised on the flop? lol. Why did you bet the river when a scare card comes? lol. Man...BY ALL MEANS if you bet the river in a heads up pot, You HAVE TO call a raise! JEEEEZ. How am I stuck at .5/1 and you are at 1/2???? lol. JK.People... if your hand isn't