Braveheart91

ANY UPDATES ON THE BOOK'S RELEASE?

Like I said, the only one that teaches contraception is always wrong.

Interesting points. Also interesting is that prior to 1930 all churches (read denominations) were opposed to contraception, now only the Catholic Church maintains that contraception is always wrong.

Zealous Donkey, Welcome.I am but a dwarf standing on the shoulders of giants, I've used many resources to research Catholicism (in my futile attempts to disprove it), Scott Hahn's work being invaluable (especially since he as a former protestant, spoke my "language") but there are other great resources to look to: Anything from Catholic Answers, Mark Shea, Karl Keating, the Coming Home Network, EWTN, etc. (For Protestants, converts tend to be able to communicate the faith better simply because of the sensitivity to the "language" gap) There is also some great classical resources available onl

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Loved The Brothers Karamazov (although I was disappointed in the ending, Dmitri got hosed) but what point exactly are you trying to demonstrate by referencing Dostoevsky (arguably one Russia's greatest christian writers)?

If you believe that you can only believe what is in the Bible, and the Bible does not claim to be the only rule of faith, then you cannot accept a Bible only doctrine. The premise is self-refuting. So the bottom line is: You position crumbles under its own weight, you have to ADD to scripture to "prove" scripture without ADDITION is the sole rule of faith.Simple. unencumbered logic. Now, what does the Bible say (multiple times) is arbiter of truth and teacher of truth? The Church.Also I don't remember any of those passages cited referring to traditions "taught in scripture". Those words

Scripture that supports a teaching tradition outside of the Bible.2 Thessalonians 2:15Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.1 Thessalonians 2:13 And for this reason we too give thanks to God unceasingly, that,in receiving the word of God from hearing us, you received not a human word but, as it truly is, the word of God, which is now at work in you who believe.2 Thessalonians 3:6 We instruct you, brothers, in the name of (our) Lord Jesus Christ,to shun any brother who conducts himself in a

So thats a "No" you won't engage in a point by point debate. I wasn't referring to names you have called me (you're awfully free with calling people stupid in these threads) but I have read it on other posts and frankly as a Christian you should be ashamed. P.S. Saying something isn't biblical (or moreover anti-biblical) doesn't make it so, it a takes a little more effort than that.

There you go again. (I miss Reagan)Your arguments (I use that term loosely) do not stand up. You actually cited very little to dispute any of the catholic claims and what you did cite was hardly relevant to whole context of what was being put forward. If you would like to debate point by point (for the sake of clarity and continuity) I am up for it anytime. I have been through every argument you may offer (Remember I was an anti-catholic evangelical once too) and they are weak in the overall case against Catholicism. So the choice is yours.(P.S. Ever notice I don't have to resort to petty

Lois, I do not believe engaging in any apologetic with you is of any benefit. You are nasty, ill-spirited, and worst of of all seem to be lost to whole continuity of scripture. You recite but do not understand. You postulate that Christ is not God incarnate, clearly in direct conflict with John 1:1. You refer to Revelation specifcally warning about Catholicism (not Catholocism) and it does no such thing. The Whore of Bablyon rap just doesn't fly. The earliest martyrs and writers of the Church were all distinctively and doctrinally Catholic, period. The men that preserved the script

Well, I am happy to see I can remain catholic.Lois, you have not proven anything (other than that you are not a charitable christian)Although it does not merit response, there have been cases of pedophilia in protestant churches, non-church enviroments, etc. You are not implying that they give a class on molestation in seminary, are you?Tithing is not required in the Church, even if it were, the passage you are referring to wouldn't preclude it.The Roman rite of the Catholic Church requires priests to remain celibate, in keeping with Jesus's exhortation**. Priests of other rites of the Catho

Lois,If you can PROVE one doctrine of the Catholic church to be fasle. I will join your church tomorrow. Just one and I am there. Braveheart911

Whoops, my faux pas. It comes from Matthew 16:15-

The first part is historical covenant theology, actually pretty standard. The most readily accessible and probably most readable is Scott Hahn's "A Father who keeps His promises" (Get out the MLA book, I can't remember the appropriate format for book title) I used much of his format for simplicity sake. He also has a website Salvation History with free courses and resources. He is a professor at Franciscan University (a wonderfully evangelical Catholic university, thats right I said evangelical) in Steubenville, Ohio and a convert himself.

I received some requests relating to scriptural passages that support distinctively catholic beliefs. So let me first address what I feel is the most crucial element, authority. If we can recognize that Jesus left us an earthly authority as "sacrament" of unity, then the rest falls into place in fairly short order.Old testament (OT) authority: I will provide an overview and cite scriptural passages for the really meaty stuff.There were several covenants in the OT, each successive covenant fulfilling the previous covenant. In each of those covenants there was an earthly authority or mediato

I'm sure with all of DN's writing, he must be a bit bogged down. Just curious when the new book is due out, anyone know?

To MSOUCPMANAre you Anglican (Episcopal) or some variation of such?What exactly does your church's theology say about the Pope?Are you aware of the scriptural basis for the papacy?I started out an atheist up until I was 23-ish. After many debates and arguments, I set out to debunk theism in general and specifically Christianity. After much research and handwrenching, I acquiesced and accepted God as God. I wasn't too terribly thrilled about it, given my lifestyle, but I couldn't ignore the evidence (some see it, some don't). Given that I was surrounded by Baptists, of the RBC variety, I na

I will try to broach this subject cautiously and clearly (at least, so I hope). The Blessed Virigin is worthy of honor and respect. She is the mother of all believers. I know that last sentence is controversial to non-Catholic or non-Orthodox christians. Let me try to expound on that from scripture and exegetical reasoning;Mary freely consented to be the New Ark of the Convenant, bearing the Word of God made flesh. (As the old Ark bore the Word of God inscribed into stone[providing another fulfillment of an element of the old convenant, in the new] )From the cross Jesus told John, the Be

There is a fundamental misunderstanding that many non-catholic christians (and frankly some catholics) have about the communion of the saints. When a catholic prays and requests intercession of say St. Joseph, He is petitioning St. Joseph for his prayers, not expecting St. Joseph to deliver some favor as though St. Joseph were God. Let me demonstrate it this way, if Lois were to ask Matt to pray for him, (its a contentious relationship, But I'm sure that) Matt would oblige. We are exhorted to pray for each other. Now when one of us passes and are joined with Christ in heaven, does that m

The best you got is Call no man Father?Jesus referring to Abraham as father in telling the parable of the Rich man and Lazarus:Luke 16:29-31 (New International Version)New International Version (NIV) 29"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.' 30" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' 31"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "The Apostle Paul referring to himself as father in this epistle:1 Corinthians 4:15 (Ne

Okay, As to the Bible.The Bible was translated, by the "c"atholic (small "c" then Big "C" now) Church (specifically St. Jerome) into Latin which was the most common language in usuage, given the widespread rule of the Roman Empire. As that language began to become less preeminent (however the Church has retained Latin as its official language to this day for purposes of universality) the Church allowed for the Bible in the vernacular to be scribed. Those Bibles were incredibly expensive and therefore secured in the Church for the usuage of all the faithful (like a phone book chained to a tel

The Catholic Church does indeed have many flaws, but they do not exist in their doctrine. The Church was established to be a "truth-telling thing" and while there have been bad priests, bishops and yes even bad popes. Those unpleasant facts do not negate the Authority of the Church invested into it by Christ Himself. The church has remained constant in its teachings from the time of its birth and has never sacrificed the Truth it was entrusted with. There has remained an unbroken line of succession of popes, bishops and priests from the Apostles to today. I know many of the non-catholic p

Anyone here who has spent a year and a half trying to disprove the Catholic Church's claim to be the true church, please rasie your hand. No one else?...(sigh) didn't think so.Okay, reading through this thread has been interesting to say the least.First many of the assumptions and allegations of what the Church teaches (ill-informed members aside) are erroneous and misleading. The Church was first referred to as catholic in circa 96 AD. The word catholic was derived from the greek word katholikos meaning universal or whole.And remained called as such until the first schism in the Church (

Where do you derive the notion that certain miracles no longer happen? What are "these types"? P. S. I cannot comment on the article, the link is now bad.