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Holy crap . . . I actually thought you were being serious until I got to the Girl Scouts comment . . . I mean everybody knows it was WWI . . . jeez!!

Why? You didn't . . . . . . here we go again . . .

Come on Sluggo . . . I know you are anti-religion . . . but this is a ridiculous statement. I have come to expect better arguments from you.To fight wars, people need to group. FCP is a group. Therefore, FCP contributes to warsTo fight wars, people need to group. The Boy Scouts is a group. Therefore, The Boy Scouts contribute to warsTo fight wars, people need to group. The Masons is a group. Therefore, The Masons contribute to warsTo fight wars, people need to group. The FHA (Future Homemakers of America) is a group. Therefore, The FHA contributes to warsTo fight wars, people need to gr

We agree 100% then. The interpretaion is everything. That's what really bothers me about these whacko extremists. Why do they have to do it in the name of their "GOD" . . . why can't they just say their cat wanted them to do it or something? It makes us "normal" Christians look bad.

That's not a fair assessment by you. You CAN NOT blame religion for what Hitler or anybody else has done. They are merely using religion as a crutch. THEY are the problem . . . not religion. Religion by itself is inherently good. You said it yourself . . . it's in the interpretation. If somebody interprets religion in a way that they feel it justifies them to kill . . . then the person doing the interpreting has the problem! Just like the example I used above . . . you can't sit there and say that poker was the reason the college kid robbed the bank. HE was the problem . . . not poker.

Yeah . . . I see now . . . I should have paid closer attention to the context you were replying in.

I don't know how to respond to that . . . so I won't.(I guess I just did ).

Canada . . . I enjoy debating with you (honestly) . . but, the quotes from Hitler, although true, is just an example of one "bad apple" so to speak. Hitler was a horrible person who used his warped sense of "religion" to justify his personal hatred towards Jews. He called himself a christian . . . but he was not even close. I compare him to the cowards who flew the planes into the towers in NYC . . . they also did so in the name of their religion. People like these use "religion" as a crutch to do what they really want to do . . . kill. Hitler was nothing more than a psychopath. The maj

Honestly . . . that was my goal with this thread. We've all argued til' we're blue in the face. I just thought it would be interesting to see how we would feel if we (individually) found out we were wrong.Plus this has been much more civil . . . lol.

. . . you mean thousands of years Sorry couldn't resist . . . lol

LOL . . . actually I think both "sides" would have a hard time . . . I just think atheists would have a harder time adjusting.As a christian thinking about this . . . I think it would be really hard on me personally if I found out therre was no GOD. It would change the way I think and react to all kinds of circumstances. So yeah, from a Christian standpoint it would be a blow. ditto

Not all . . . do a search. Some dinosaur fossils have been found above human fossils. How do we explain that? I don't have a clue . . . just interesting to think about.

true . . . I agree

Your right . . . some probably would. I don't know that I would honestly. Of course I'm married so the whole nudy bar scene doesn't tempt me, but like you I wasn't always a Christian. So, I have seen both sides as well . . . I prefer this side (as opposed to the "dark side" - lol).

Yeah . . . I think atheists would probably have a harder time just from the self-examination standpoint. It would force them to look at the way they have been living (without a GOD) and would probably fill them with tons of regret. I do think Christians would have a difficult time as well because then it would take the "purpose" out of their lives.So . . . yeah . . . both sides (so to speak) would have issues, but I think atheists would have a harder time adjusting their life.

Wow . . . you really put a lot of thought into that . . . thanks.(Yes this is sarcasm . . . in case you were wondering ).

You are right . . . what would be the point if you didn't know what is expected? If nothing would be expected . . . then there is no point. Of course if you found out there is no GOD then nothing would be expected, right?

ding ding ding ding . . . we have a winner . . .

. . . it's called dirt.

Your probably right. I guess I'm just trying to give the "regulars" in this forum enough credit that they can be objective and mature enough to actually consider the "other sides" opinion. Maybe I'm wrong in hoping that.

I'm trying to get away from the same old circular discussion . . . GOD exists . . . No he doesn't . . . Prove he doesn't . . . Prove he does . . . blah blah blah. So I thought this would get us thinking a little differently without the same arguments.The question is: If you could REALLY know the truth, if GOD does or doesn't exist, would you want to know? Think a little before responding. Christians, atheists, agnostics . . . whatever . . . think about what it would mean if you were right OR if you were wrong. Be open minded to both sides as to how it would or wouldn't change you life if

. . . you can prove this because you were there?

Fair enough. Good point. It goes back to the same question of why GOD will answer some prayers while others he does not. Why does he heal some and not others? The answer is . . . I don't know. Nobody does . . . except him. What he does tell us is that he has a plan for us . . . each one of us. So through Faith I trust GOD and his plan for me. Even in bad times I know that GOD's will is being done. I may not understand it . . . but I trust him and his reasons. I also know that one day I will find out and it will all make sense. For now . . . I live by Faith.No sw . . . that was a goo

I like slots . . . I think they like me better though . . . . . . oh yeah . . . POST 457 . . .

This argument is old . . . let's not turn this into a "he does exist, he doesn't exist" thread. There are a brazillian others just like it on here.I could go into the whole fallen world, free will explanation . . . but it has been said a million times over. . . . and yes I get where your going . . . it's the same circular argument over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over . . . .