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#3763626 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted Dubey on 21 November 2017 - 08:01 AM

I'd personally be shocked if a group of politicians did the right thing, so I'm gonna say nothing happens to Franken, or Moore, or anyone else.

#3762532 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted Balloon guy on 24 October 2017 - 07:50 PM

You guys ever notice that your: "Trump is going to...and this is why its bad" arguments always seem to fail?

I'll give you a hint, they are based on leftist delusions, same ones that gave you this:

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But keep the investigation into Russia going.

So far we've got 2 Clintons, 2 Podestas, the DNC and an Obama looking like they in fact did collude with the Russians.

But hey, you guys got some random advertisement saying Trump needs to be impeached.....it's almost possible that your tears will in fact a reversal of global warming.

#3762030 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted brvheart on 11 October 2017 - 06:03 AM

View PostFCP Bob, on 11 October 2017 - 03:52 AM, said:

Hard to take an article seriously when the first "conservative" they mention is Megyn Kelly.

#3761158 Random News Observations

Posted Balloon guy on 12 September 2017 - 08:27 PM

Large immigration of poor people and low wage earners do effect an economy, always have, always will.

The reason people on the right and the left want it is for similar reasons, low paid workers make more profits for large companies.

H1B visas allow Silicon valley to bring in high wage earners and replace higher wage earner Americans. Why would any government program replace high wage earning Americans unless they were getting donations from these industries that are gaining the benefit of lower pay for same work?

Driving the wages down should never be the goal of a government program. Just the concept is antithetical to what a government employee is there for.

Poor people have a much higher crime rate, pretty much across the board. People from corrupt countries like Somalia do not change from the magic dirt of the US.

Having a system where we look the other way while laws are broken so we can have a small decrease in our cost of lettuce is the beginning of not having a system of laws at all.

Illegal immigrants vote 8:1 democrat to republican. Funny that this statistic exist at all since they are not allowed to vote, but someone did the study and found this to be true.


Specifically, their analysis of 2008 data from an extensive Harvard/You Gov survey indicates that 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered to vote — and 594,000 to 5.7 million did so.

So democrats get donations and votes, republicans just get donations. You can see why I'm at odds with the republicans here.

As far as my original link regarding prisons, that percentage of federal prisoners 22% reflected a larger population of illegal immigrants in federal prison to their percentage of the population 13.5%. Math is hard.

We have an immigration system. If it needs overhauled, then fix it. But allowing people to ignore the law because most of them are good people is naively stupid at best, dangerous at worst. I've asked before; How many Americans is an acceptable number to be murdered, raped, or maimed in a drunk driving by illegals before its too many?

Open borders means you do not have a country. And the only argument against open borders is that the country has the right to restrict access to its land.

Supreme Court just agreed with Trump's travel ban. What a surprise that the job of protecting the citizens of the country is greater then the feelings of a judge in Hawaii. The clear common sense of this ban was mind bottling that anyone could disagree with it. 7 countries with almost no practical government in place, does not allow for any vetting process to take place, therefore until a vetting process can be implemented, we aren't going to allow people form these countries in.

Add to it that these countries are largely hostile to America, and its such a no-brainer that only democrats could be against it.

#3760827 Random News Observations

Posted Balloon guy on 29 August 2017 - 01:53 AM

There was never violence from the tea party, but there is always violence from the left's 'grassroots' organizations. Occupy, antifa, blm, just to name the most recent.

Yet people act like the tea party was all bad, and excuse the track record of the left.

When large groups of leftist hey together, they must strike out violently to prove how much they care. Because theirs is an emotional based world view, devoid of facts.

#3760286 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted Balloon guy on 04 August 2017 - 07:31 AM

Fun to see liberals on twitter trying to deflect Trump's successes.

Trump supporter: Dow Johns is over 22,000 for first time.

Liberals: That's from Obama's economy.

TS: Growth rate is highest since 1st quarter of Obama

Liberlas: Both a result of Obama's economy.

Ts: highest employment rate ever, jobs growth is steady.

:iberals: You can thank Obama, his economy did this.

Alan Greenspan: The bubble is about to burst!

Liberals: Trump brought us to ruin with HIS economy!

Side note, nothing more digusting than Greenspan acting like he knows whats going on and telling us that artificially low interest rates are bad. It's almost as hypocritical as Algore telling us to cut down our carbon footprint while living ina house with the equivilant footprint as 43 homes, for a single man with no kids at home.

#3760128 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted Balloon guy on 26 July 2017 - 07:45 PM

Trump pulling out of supporting future terrorist in Syria was a smart move. What is the left going to do when they can't be against this without owning the future actions of these terrorists?

Obama was really a junior in world affairs in the middle east. Just made a total and complete mess that the grown ups now have to deal with.

Did the same with healthcare.

All while increasing the debt almost more than all US Presidents combined.

Now he's turning into a nancy boy whining about his successor, whle he jets around with the richest of the rich. Completely devoid of class.

One of the worst presidents ever, if not the worst.

#3760048 Random News Observations

Posted Balloon guy on 19 July 2017 - 07:34 PM

Republicans are screwed over Healthcare.

They have run for 8 years on repealing obamacare, then failed and have nothing to replace it.

That is the difference between the dems and us. The dems are true believers in their issues. I think they are wrong about them, but they are true believe. When is the last time you saw a moderate Democrat go against party lines?

Republicans in secure seats with almost guaranteed election, are still willing to go against every principle they claim to support.

Until we remove the entrenched political class, the ones who are there to make themselves richer, the Republican party is on danger of diverging into 2 parties. One that cares about their country, and one that cares about power.

The dems have already sold their soul, there is no reasonable size group of them that can save their party from the corrupt. Maybe we'll be a 3 party system in years to come. The dems and Republicans will split their vote between the elderly, the 3Rd party will be ones that love their country.

But many Republicans on my side are asking why they should ever support the Republican party again. When Rush Limbaugh had been voicing this on his radio station. The entrenched are incredibly stupid to not make a token effort to protect the gravy train they have.

#3759461 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted GOCUBSGO on 29 June 2017 - 09:36 AM

It's truly fascinating that he just can't help himself when it comes to these types of things.

#3759381 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted Dubey on 26 June 2017 - 04:14 PM

Exaggerated eye roll

#3759388 The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted Essay21 on 26 June 2017 - 07:45 PM

Cubs win one World Series and this guy knows winning all of a sudden.

#3759002 Random News Observations

Posted Scrim on 15 June 2017 - 08:36 AM

You're in denial now, which is the last safe-space of someone who can't participate in an argument with facts. Since you can't refute the substance, you characterize the discussion itself and claim it's 'not worth your time'.

Also, I don't think you know what the word 'speculation' means. You can say I'm speculating when I say something like


The Alt Right was not 'created' by anyone but a group of dissidents who, frankly, will continue to rapidly grow as the left pushes further and further into the hinterlands of cultural insanity. Wait and see. Generation Z is going to be something else.

... and I wouldn't disagree because that is indeed speculation.

Everything else is some flavor of insight and/or logic and/or reason which, if it's as wrong as you claim, you should have no problem refuting with more compelling insight, superior logic or more rigorous reasoning but so far, it's two against one and the most either of you can offer is empty rhetoric, absent real substance. To remind: this is why the left hates free speech. Because deep down, a lot of what they believe doesn't withstand any scrutiny past the initial cries of 'racist' and saying 'ignorant' and discussion leaves them looking like vapid morons who lack credibility.

That final-phase denial and defensive-sobbing always looks the same. We see it here, with you.

#3758998 Random News Observations

Posted Scrim on 15 June 2017 - 07:12 AM

View PostDubey, on 14 June 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

There's nothing to refute. Your position isn't based on facts, there's no empirical evidence to support your position that "all of the world's evils stem from the erosion of our culture and the increasing prevalence of leftist ideology". it's based on how you view the world.

Did the alt-right come about in response to PC culture? Possibly. But Even if we accept that to be true, we couldn't possibly disagree more on who to "blame" it on.

View PostGOCUBSGO, on 14 June 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

But Dubey, don't you know that if Scrim claims something to be true, you have to disprove it or his claim is valid??????

Geez man, come on.

You two are acting like retards, though, since I never claimed (or even vaguely implied) "all of the world's evils stem from the erosion of our culture and the increasing prevalence of leftist ideology". There are several issues the left gets correct that the right has completely wrong.

There are definitely some problems where a completely logical case can be made that the left is persisting in ideals in the face of evidence that their ideals create a shitty reality, though.

The left often exhibits a peculiar disdain for the application logic since logic undermines so much of their belief structure. This is why they demand 'studies' in the face of blatant empirical observations since 'studies' don't suffer from the same limits as logic and can be limitlessly nuanced so as to arrive at a desired conclusion. It's also why the social sciences are a complete joke, yet the left increasingly clings to that hoax institution as their only lifeline to anything that will let them persist in the belief that 'we're all equal, but here's a bible of excuses to explain why nothing we can measure demonstrates that empirically... because something-something history'.

So I make a case such as we see above, using pretty normal logic, you both crumble into gibbering tards with no logic to offer in refute.

In case you're wondering, the complexion of this discussion demonstrates why the modern left is anti-speech.
Because it winds up going about like this, every time.

- Facts
- But logic.
- Sorry. Logic.
Left) SHUT UP!
- Reasoning

Every. Single. Time.

#3758987 Random News Observations

Posted SuitedAces21 on 14 June 2017 - 04:00 PM

View PostScrim, on 14 June 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and gender matters more than everything else (if you're a woman) and every race is reminded incessantly that their own racial identity is the most important thing in the world, unless you're a white man in which case you may not have racial identity lest you be 'racist' and your whole existence is nothing more than a solemn debt owed to 'historically oppressed groups'.

That's why the left were free speech absolutists when they were the dissenters but now that they enjoy the benefit of having won the culture war, are absolutely, without an argument, the anti-speech advocates who demands silence or persecution of anyone who disagrees with their ideological narratives.

semantics of how the "alt right" came about aside, the above, to me, is undeniably true.

#3758938 Random News Observations

Posted Scrim on 13 June 2017 - 05:39 AM

View PostGOCUBSGO, on 12 June 2017 - 07:58 PM, said:

It's amusing to me that you can't seem to grasp the point of this debate given how smart you clearly think you are. I'm not arguing that the election results are diminished or negated by low turnout. Voter turnout has and always will be a noteworthy topic of any election or major vote and is almost always reported on. Are you arguing that it shouldn't be reported on because it doesn't change the outcome?

Nothing about CNNs article was inaccurate or misleading. Your claim of fake news was idiotic and that has been my point the entire time.

Nobody is arguing that they shouldn't report on voter turnout. The point is using the word "most" for an election result that yielded a result of 97%. That is how media tactically narrates. If you don't understand this, you're legit stupid.

Narration 1:
Few Puerto Ricans Choose Independence, Voter Turnout Low. Measure Passes.

Narration 2:
Independence Overwhelmingly Wins in 97% Landslide Victory

Both headlines, entirely true but serve two totally different agendas. This is how they work. Using "most" in a headline for a 97% election result is absolutely lies by narration. If you struggle to understand this, you're naive. It's the old...


Three car race was on Friday. Japan won, USA took 2nd, Russia 3rd. Saturday's Pravda headline reads "RUSSIANS TAKE 3RD IN BIG RACE"
Byline: France Wins Gold, Americans, 2nd to Last

For someone who expresses concern about how smart I think I am, you should worry more about how smart you actually are or aren't, because this is not a new concept I'm making up here and by any rational standard, reporting 97% as "most" is evidence of an event that does not fit a media entity bias, no different than if the headline read "27% of Eligible Voters Choose Obama".