breeze81 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Any Different?Full Tilt PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $1/$25 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J:spade: T:spade: 2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB raises, Button calls, Hero calls.Flop: Q:spade: K:spade: T:diamond: (3SB, 3 players)Hero bets, BB raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.Turn: 4:club: (5.5BB, 2 players)Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB raises all-in $6.5, Hero calls.River: 7:diamond: (12BB, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: 12BB)Results:Final pot: 12BBHero showed Js TsBB showed Kd Jd Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Your turn equity is usually too small vs someone who has shown they like their hand to bet/3-bet. I say bet/call turn, under normal circumstances. Since the villain is short here, I have no problem getting it all in, as they are usually donks trying to go all in...lol Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Flop is ok, you've got good equity. I'd either check/call or bet/call the turn. Probably check/call though, especially b/c BB capped the flop. Our equity is significantly worse on the turn here than it was on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I agree with the others on turn.I would c/r the flop though. Link to post Share on other sites
GamblinLeaf 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I agree with the others on turn.I would c/r the flop though.Yes, I would c/r the field on the flop (and cap) to try to get a bet or two from the button.I'd be tempted to lead the turn and call a raise but not 3-bet. I think this is close though. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 This certainly seems like a good time to check-raise the flop.The board coordinates with a lot of hands.So it is likely that BB will bet here.And since Button very well may have gotten a piece as well, he may want to play along with position- but not if it is 2 bets to him.So I would recommend using your great relative position to the preflop bettor and check-raise here.Slow down on the turn when you miss.--cm Link to post Share on other sites
breeze81 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share Posted October 31, 2006 I was looking to get 3-bets or a cap on the flop against the BB and with the way the table was playing, I knew I would get raised from him. He apparently love raising me, so I didn't think I needed to C/R as he would play back at me. But yes I see now how bringing along the button for a bet or two in the long run is a better play.I thought about it after the hand and think I agree that I needed to slow down on the turn, but I love to play this type of hand that strong. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I thought about it after the hand and think I agree that I needed to slow down on the turn, but I love to play this type of hand that strong.It's fun, but it's -EV to play it that aggro on the turn. Massive spewage, unless you have some sort of mad read that he raise/folds a ton and we have a ton of FE in this case...which is almost never. Link to post Share on other sites
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