RDog 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 worse..he plays them.Next thing you know, the Easter Bunny is fake. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 This is where I need to have more info than what we have to be convinced. We're down to ten bets already. So maybe we're either early in and we've taken a small shot. In which case, i personally would rather gamble in this spot and try to accumulate chips. I don't know... I'm trying to think of a situation where I would want to make a play for the pot immediately, but the chip stack and blinds don't justify it. I know what you're saying and I will agree w/ it in a number of situations. i'm having a hard time fabricating one right here though.How about when it's 4 handed, you're first to act and have no idea what to do if there are overcalls to a bet after you check. Or if it gets checked around. Or, oh just ****ing trust me. If it's close AT ALL, if you acknowledge that there isn't some GIGANTIC edge to not open pushing then it clearly makes a lot more sense to just move in here.I don't think there's any advantage at all to checking planing to C/R, but assuming there were and it was marginal, the number of times it gets checked around or bluffed at by junk and you fold makes open pushing better. good luck.Did I ever say that I would be confused by overcalls? Is it a 4 handed table? Also, I don't intend to fold here. If I'm willing to push at it. That's just common sense.I bolded the part that I agree with you about which I addressed. We really need to be confident about a bet behind us. In an unraised pot preflop, I don't know how confident we can be about that. Which is why I would rather push this than C/R it (barring a read on the table from hero). But that wasn't the issue I brought up in the first place. Or was it what I was addressing in your comment. I acknowledged that if we expect check check, C/R doesn't make much sense. If we expect a bet C/Ring is a much better play and you contended that pushing and taking down a pot was better than allowing some one who was behind us to commit and be forced to call a C/R when 25-35% to win the pot. Which simply is not true no matter how you slice it. Getting people to put money in as a dog is good here. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Im probably the tightest tournament player in the forums, and even I advocate the open push here...1200 with 0 risk is much better than 2000 with 25% risk (let alone +60% which is probably more accurate) IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
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