Dhall901 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 To all the vets especially, you know, those who make money playing this game..hahaha. What is a more desirable stat, say, on stars. Would one rather have a massive showdown percentage, or many pots won without showdown? Which would speak more to the quality of your game, or the leaks that lie within??Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Dhall901 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Author Share Posted November 19, 2005 bump damnit, anybody have any ideas on this one? Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I always compare: (a) total flops seen to (B) the SUM of - number of showdowns won and - number of hands won without showdownLater on in a good tournement, my (B) hands can meet or exceed my (a) hands (because I'm controlling the table and picking up a lot of pots pre-flop)To me this gives a rough feel to comparing how many hands I like at the onset (i.e. I see a flop) to how many hands I actually take down. CheersMerby Link to post Share on other sites
case ace 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 if your tight in a mtt you should have about 1 to 1. if your aggresive you should win about double the pots without showdown, then at showdown imo of course. i'd like to hear input Link to post Share on other sites
dank773 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I think it depends on your game, are you playing limit or no limit, just hold em, or stud/ Omaha, ring our tournies? Link to post Share on other sites
Dhall901 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Author Share Posted November 19, 2005 I think it depends on your game, are you playing limit or no limit, just hold em, or stud/ Omaha, ring our tournies?the question refers to NL ring games, sorry. I'm partial to take the majority of pots without showdown. You can build a nice profit stealing little ones here and there...suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites
dank773 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I don't have a good answer for you, I don't play much ring NL, but I'm interested in hearing what others think of this. Link to post Share on other sites
Dhall901 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Author Share Posted November 19, 2005 I don't have a good answer for you, I don't play much ring NL, but I'm interested in hearing what others think of this.Lol..me too man, can't seem to get much love from the peanut gallery. Link to post Share on other sites
case ace 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 if your tight in a mtt you should have about 1 to 1. if your aggresive you should win about double the pots without showdown, then at showdown imo of course. i'd like to hear inputcash games should be 2 to 1 for stealing without showdowns. 3 to 1 if your aggresive Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I'll help you out....If you have alot of showdowns in NL...it means that your table image is shat.If you win alot of pots without ever showing your cards....you have a table image that is intact and respected.If you always have to have a hand to win a pot in NL ....you are in serious trouble....so that is why it is very important to have everybody at your table "perceive" you as TIGHT AGGRESSIVE.You can be lag.....but you better know how to be lag. Link to post Share on other sites
Lpyle04 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 You should definatly have more hands won w/out showdowns. You will make alot more money winning pots that way than you would if you must showdown to win a pot. Link to post Share on other sites
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