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which do you guys prefer made hands or drawing hands?i like drawing hands, sure aces are good hand but can easily be outflopped and u dont know where u are at against todays minefieldsif you have a flush draw u can get them to fold or you can hit your 33%

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In tournaments I prefer a made hand because I play conservative until the stakes are higher and let other players make the mistakes. In the end of the tournament, I like the drawing hands because I bet stronger. In table limits it a 50 50 for me and it all depends how others are playing.

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thanks kobe i hope to spread some of knowledge to you guys and maybe learn some myself!!
Sigh...I used to have a similar problem that you are displaying at this moment. I think Tetoe is getting ready to take u out, lolz
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thanks kobe i hope to spread some of knowledge to you guys and maybe learn some myself!!
well i can assure you the rest of fcp and I can't wait!
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ok so back on topic lollets say the first 3 cards comes 7 9 3 with a couple heartswould u rather have jack and ten of hearts or pocket cowboys?what if its a tourny or cash? in cash game u can rebuy if u miss ur combo draws or ur kings get cracked, tournys are one and done

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ok so back on topic lollets say the first 3 cards comes 7 9 3 with a couple heartswould u rather have jack and ten of hearts or pocket cowboys?what if its a tourny or cash? in cash game u can rebuy if u miss ur combo draws or ur kings get cracked, tournys are one and done
Board: 7h 9h 3sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 79.844% 79.80% 00.04% 854013 472.50 { KcKs }Hand 1: 20.156% 20.11% 00.04% 215232 472.50 { random } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 65.472% 65.05% 00.42% 696207 4471.50 { JhTh }Hand 1: 34.528% 34.11% 00.42% 365040 4471.50 { random }Kings is your answer(def the best way of working this out)ok vs a range of cards an opponent may have.22+,A5s+,K9s+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,A7o+,KTo+,QTo+,JToBoard: 7h 9h 3sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 79.071% 78.88% 00.19% 197576 472.50 { KcKs }Hand 1: 20.929% 20.74% 00.19% 51949 472.50 { 22+, A5s+, K9s+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 55.823% 54.60% 01.22% 137846 3079.50 { JhTh }Hand 1: 44.177% 42.96% 01.22% 108445 3079.50 { 22+, A5s+, K9s+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }Kings again!<---bored
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ok so back on topic lollets say the first 3 cards comes 7 9 3 with a couple heartswould u rather have jack and ten of hearts or pocket cowboys?what if its a tourny or cash? in cash game u can rebuy if u miss ur combo draws or ur kings get cracked, tournys are one and done
What if its a rebuy TOURNEY?!!?SICK
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ok so back on topic lollets say the first 3 cards comes 7 9 3 with a couple heartswould u rather have jack and ten of hearts or pocket cowboys?what if its a tourny or cash? in cash game u can rebuy if u miss ur combo draws or ur kings get cracked, tournys are one and done
I was worried this would happen.
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Board: 3s 9h 7hDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 52.828% 52.83% 00.00% 523 0.00 { KcKs }Hand 1: 47.172% 47.17% 00.00% 467 0.00 { JhTh }KINGS!!@#!@!

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Board: 7h 9h 3sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 79.844% 79.80% 00.04% 854013 472.50 { KcKs }Hand 1: 20.156% 20.11% 00.04% 215232 472.50 { random } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 65.472% 65.05% 00.42% 696207 4471.50 { JhTh }Hand 1: 34.528% 34.11% 00.42% 365040 4471.50 { random }Kings is your answer(def the best way of working this out)ok vs a range of cards an opponent may have.22+,A5s+,K9s+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,A7o+,KTo+,QTo+,JToBoard: 7h 9h 3sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 79.071% 78.88% 00.19% 197576 472.50 { KcKs }Hand 1: 20.929% 20.74% 00.19% 51949 472.50 { 22+, A5s+, K9s+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 55.823% 54.60% 01.22% 137846 3079.50 { JhTh }Hand 1: 44.177% 42.96% 01.22% 108445 3079.50 { 22+, A5s+, K9s+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }Kings again!<---bored
why does that hand look like I just played it and got burnt lol looks like the one I posted in strat the other day
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I think this is quite interesting and probably merits some discussionBoard: 7h 9h 3sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 24.944% 24.83% 00.12% 2515062 11777.00 { KcKs }Hand 1: 41.272% 40.90% 00.37% 4143267 37651.33 { JhTh }Hand 2: 07.758% 07.60% 00.15% 770357 15566.50 { 76s, A2o+ }Hand 3: 18.908% 18.45% 00.46% 1869286 46172.33 { Td8d }Hand 4: 07.118% 06.81% 00.30% 690268 30803.83 { 33+, ATs, KTs, QTs, A4o, K4o, Q4o, J4o, T4o, 94o, 84o, 62o }

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WOW if you change this it gives the hand a whole new perspective!Board: 7h 9h 3sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 21.098% 21.02% 00.08% 61769612 223215.00 { KcKs }Hand 1: 38.440% 38.09% 00.35% 111915716 1036539.50 { JhTh }Hand 2: 06.994% 06.79% 00.20% 19949948 599655.83 { 76s, A2o+ }Hand 3: 18.610% 17.94% 00.67% 52714737 1968063.33 { Td8d }Hand 4: 06.784% 06.53% 00.26% 19179588 755611.17 { 33+, ATs, KTs, QTs, A4o, K4o, Q4o, J4o, T4o, 94o, 84o, 62o }Hand 5: 08.074% 07.69% 00.39% 22589833 1136015.17 { 33-22, A5s, J6s, 94s, 84s, K8o, K3o, 83o }

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yes but you forgot to talk about the merits of how deep we are. What hands can I get to fold if I shove JThh for an overshove?How about KK? What if a guy shoves into ME? Would I be folding KK?This hand is DEEP...GREAT THREAD!

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