BuffDan 0 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 So I guess this is a simple enough situation, but what do you do with QQ when 3 bet and out of position? With smaller pairs I am folding or calling for set value if the implied odds are high enough, but QQ gives me trouble. Am I 4-betting here and stacking off on any flop that doesn't contain an overcard, or should I be more cautious? Or is it a push? Or even a fold (I assume calling is no good out of position)? No read on villain.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG+1 ($110.85)Hero ($136.20)MP2 ($58.85)MP3 ($100)CO ($20.55)Button ($116.80)SB ($80.40)BB ($126.45)UTG ($99.50)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q , Q . 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, Button raises to $13, 2 folds, Hero ?? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 There's nothing wrong with calling here and playing postflop poker.You could also repop to $28 and fold if he shoves. If he flat calls, you 100% stack off on a low flop.A read or some stats on his play would help a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
BuffDan 0 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 There's nothing wrong with calling here and playing postflop poker.You could also repop to $28 and fold if he shoves. If he flat calls, you 100% stack off on a low flop.A read or some stats on his play would help a lot.So I looked up his stats (which I can't remember if i knew at the time of the hand) they are 20/16.5/2.4. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 At full ring i don't mind 4-bet/folding but i think you can probably get more value by calling and playing after the flop, it depends, i think the problem with 4-betting is a lot of villains will either shove or fold after you re-raise so you either win $13 or lose $45 4-bet/folding where as flat calling means you generaly have a disguised hand post flop which you can gain a lot of value from. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 4bet/folding seems bad to me. How many times have you seen someone call a 4bet? They most likely fold any hand less than QQ and shove AA/KK/AK. Is this a good spot to refer to Acid's post about calling and check-raising any non A or K flop? Link to post Share on other sites
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