How To Do Better In Sit And Go's?

[D3R3K1991 0]

Do you guys have any tips how to play a sit and go with 9 players, the best 3 cash and im always getting 4th!!! almost every single time... any tips on how to avoid this?? should i start out fearless or tight? please help its ruining my bankroll and i want to be good at it

[rdtedm 0]

Do you guys have any tips how to play a sit and go with 9 players, the best 3 cash and im always getting 4th!!! almost every single time... any tips on how to avoid this?? should i start out fearless or tight? please help its ruining my bankroll and i want to be good at it

This should go in gen strat or tourney strat. But since I have grinded STT's before, here's a link:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=105586

[No_Neck 0]

This should go in gen strat or tourney strat. But since I have grinded STT's before, he's a link:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=105586

sweetness, I have been killing the 45/18 man turbo SNG's but for some reason seem to come up short in the 9 man SNG's...

[jmbreslin 0]

Do you guys have any tips how to play a sit and go with 9 players, the best 3 cash and im always getting 4th!!! almost every single time... any tips on how to avoid this?? should i start out fearless or tight? please help its ruining my bankroll and i want to be good at it

What buy-ins are you playing? The approach to $1.20's should be a bit different than the approach to $100's.

[cdannons 0]

How many have you played? Sometimes you just go on a back run of bubbles. If you are consistantly getting down to the final 4, you are probably a long run winner getting an unlucky rush of 4ths. As for style, keep it patient. Especially at the begining, wait for big hands. There are way too many people willing to lose all their chips early if you just wait for a big hand. Later one, stay patient and yet keep it aggressive. this means when you do play a hand, be sure to come in raising. When playing at the final 4, avoid confrontations with the big stack. Obviously play your big hands, and steal some pots with marginal hands. Like I said though, you're probably doing ok.

[jmbreslin 0]

How many have you played? Sometimes you just go on a back run of bubbles. If you are consistantly getting down to the final 4, you are probably a long run winner getting an unlucky rush of 4ths.

Not necessarily, it could signal a lack of understanding of appropriate bubble strategy and pushing ranges.

[NEtwowilldo 0]

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[cdannons 0]

Not necessarily, it could signal a lack of understanding of appropriate bubble strategy and pushing ranges.

Yes it could be, but you won't really know until you've played enough to tell, you could be the best player in the world and start off getting 9th in your first 3 tournaments

[D3R3K1991 0]

thank you guys/girls for reacting, i normally play 1 dollar sit and gos at pokerstars, but off course i would like to build up a healthy bankroll and play higher stakes...oyeah and jmbreslin explain the bubble strategy

[cdannons 0]

When you get down to 5 and espeically 4 players, your play is largerly determined by the stack sizes. If you're the big stack, you cna play more aggressively (but not recklessly, nothing sucks more then going from big stack to bubble boy), let the smaller stacks wait out who gets the money, be cautious if you have smaller stacks showing resistence against your aggression, they usually have a hand. If you are the middle stack, you want to avoid confrontations with the big stack. If you are the middle stack and there r 2 short stacks, be aggressive on them (assuming th big stack allows you), neither of them wanna go out in 4th. If you are the 3rd stack and the short stack is a good amount udner you, play tight, but don't jsut fall asleep and fold every hand. When you have big hand, you have to play, otherwise, make the short stack prove himself. If you are one of he 2 short stacks about even, then play aggressively with decent hands if nobody has entered the pot, otherwise, you want a very good hand. Every blind you take is going to put pressure on the other shortstack to keep up. If he lets you get a good amount ahead of him, go back to playing tighter. If you are the only real short stack, time to get aggressive. This doesn't mean all-in every hand. Go all-in with marginal hands if nobody else has entered the pot. As the small blind, if u can just cal, i would tend to do it, same with checking as the big blind. Be aggressive, but not stupid.

[cdannons 0]

and if anybody disagrees with what i've said i've love to hear your own theories on the bubble sittuation

[jmbreslin 0]

That about sums it up, but you do have to adjust your bubble play to the $1.20 tourneys (I play those on Stars myself). It pays to be very patient around the bubble (4 left in a 9-man table, top 3 get the money). Most $1.20 players don't know about bubble strategy, which means they will often continue to play the same loose and careless style they have played up to that point. What that means is that even if you're the shortstack when there are 4 left, you can often sneak into the money just by sitting patiently and waiting for the others to battle it out. There have been numerous situations where I was sitting with something like 800 chips with 4 players left and watched with a grin on my face while the two bigstacks go all-in against each other. You'll also find that $1.20 players don't understand the gap concept, which means they will make loose calls on the bubble. The result is that it can become very difficult to steal blinds late in a $1.20, but you stand a better chance of doubling your stack when you go all in with ATs and get called by A4.The bottom line is that at $1.20 it often pays to be very patient and cautious when there are 4 left, unless you have a large enough chip lead that you can afford to take risks without damaging your stack. Don't mess around with speculative hands if you're short on chips - wait for a good spot to get all your chips in when you're a likely favorite if you get called. This is a different approach from the traditional bubble strategy that cdannons describes above.

[cdannons 0]

completely agree

[WhatArunAA 0]

When you get down to 5 and espeically 4 players, your play is largerly determined by the stack sizes. If you're the big stack, you cna play more aggressively (but not recklessly, nothing sucks more then going from big stack to bubble boy), let the smaller stacks wait out who gets the money, be cautious if you have smaller stacks showing resistence against your aggression, they usually have a hand. If you are the middle stack, you want to avoid confrontations with the big stack. If you are the middle stack and there r 2 short stacks, be aggressive on them (assuming th big stack allows you), neither of them wanna go out in 4th. If you are the 3rd stack and the short stack is a good amount udner you, play tight, but don't jsut fall asleep and fold every hand. When you have big hand, you have to play, otherwise, make the short stack prove himself. If you are one of he 2 short stacks about even, then play aggressively with decent hands if nobody has entered the pot, otherwise, you want a very good hand. Every blind you take is going to put pressure on the other shortstack to keep up. If he lets you get a good amount ahead of him, go back to playing tighter. If you are the only real short stack, time to get aggressive. This doesn't mean all-in every hand. Go all-in with marginal hands if nobody else has entered the pot. As the small blind, if u can just cal, i would tend to do it, same with checking as the big blind. Be aggressive, but not stupid.

I guess what he said is right.. except for the " if you can jsut call from the small blind, do it".. that is the WORST possible move you can make near the bubble.. dont EVER complete from the sb unless you know the bb is overly aggro and you plan on calling his shove by you completing.

[Cappy37 0]

and if anybody disagrees with what i've said i've love to hear your own theories on the bubble sittuation

We need to find you an avatar, you're far too valuable to this forum to remain faceless.As for additions to bubble strat for $1.20s, my simple advice is this: Don't get too involved in any pot unless you are ready to go to war. And if you are on the bubble and don't have any notes or general reads on the guy you are in a pot with, you aren't paying close enough attention, and *that* could be your biggest leak.At the very least, you need to be able to separate your "calling stations" from your "able to actually make occasional laydown" players. It may seem like overkill at $1.20, but it not only gives you another edge that you need, it's excellent prep for moving up in limits and playing for bigger stakes. When you move to 45 man SNGs and bigger fields, it is an absolute crime not to be using OPR when you are not in a hand to gauge your late-game competition. Yeah, you're eventually going to want Poker Tracker and all the gadgets, but if you are on a budget, at least get used to OPR.

[jmbreslin 0]

What's OPR?

[Cappy37 0]

OfficialPokerRankings.comIt tracks all tournament results 36 man+ for just about every player. It's like Sharkscope for MTTs, without limited searches.