The President 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 ok so we're still at the stage where the money is virtually meaningless (~$30), and if i were to go out here im not happy just cos i cashedFull Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t600/t1200(Ante: t150)8 playersConverterHero: 27305Villain: 12842average ~20kPre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9 UTG folds, Hero raises to t3600, MP1 calls t3600 (pot was t6600), 5 folds.Flop: T 5 J (t10200, 2 players)Hero bets t6000, MP1 raises all-in t9092, Hero calls t3092 (pot was t25292).Turn: J (t28384, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t28384)River: 4 (t28384, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t28384)Results:Final pot: t28384this is basically the hand that took me out of the running for final tabling. Im really not sure if i played it well or not. these are my thoughts:i had to raise preflop. i suppose i could of limped, but stealing the blinds and antes seemed like the no-brainer option at this stage of the tourney. is this what most people would do?then i fired a sort of coninuation bet, sort of bet with a weak hand type bet, and once he went all in over the top i had to call, cos there was no chance i was folding to 4000 more in that spot.so i personally am not sure if i played the hand wrong, but since it was the key hand in the tourney for me i thought i would post it and see what people think Link to post Share on other sites
Kestral123 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Add stack sizes please. Link to post Share on other sites
YBravo 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Do you have a read on the villain? Link to post Share on other sites
The President 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Add stack sizes please.done Link to post Share on other sites
The President 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Do you have a read on the villain?not really. he hadnt been doing anything unusual though Link to post Share on other sites
YBravo 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hmmm, I'd be a little suspicious of the flat call of 25% of his stack from MP1. Looks like he is begging for a squeeze. Combined with the two overs, I'd probably check/fold the flop. As played, you have to call. Link to post Share on other sites
Kestral123 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hmmm, I'd be a little suspicious of the flat call of 25% of his stack from MP1. Looks like he is begging for a squeeze. Combined with the two overs, I'd probably check/fold the flop. As played, you have to call.QFT. Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I'm not sure I'd bet 2/3rd of what he has behind on the flop since as you say, you're priced in to call if he shoves. If I'm leading here, I'm shoving. Most likely I check the flop and decide what to do if he bets. If I'm getting it all in, why not let him bluff at it with worse hands? Link to post Share on other sites
Eight_Tabler 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Since he didn't reraise preflop I don't put him on AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, or TT... He was either trapping with a monster (AA,KK), or more likely calling with a good hand that has potential, but not quite something he wants to commit all his chips to preflop. (AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT, 88, 77). Most of those hands like this flop, and if you read him as being solid I think it's ok to check/fold this flop. This lets 88, 77 and KQ outplay you, but I think most of his holdings have you beat pretty badly at this point. Now, if he was a donk that can't fold small pairs preflop or doesn't reraise with AK or AQ when shortstacked, then I like the way you played it. Link to post Share on other sites
The President 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 yeh you guys make a good point. i guess it was wrong to c-bet. well you live you learn. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I usually min-raise middle pairs from EP and a so-so stack. Its a lot easier to get away from when overcards flop, and a lot cheaper to bet a safe looking flop. Link to post Share on other sites
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