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If you two kids don't stop fighting, I will turn this forum around, and we're going home.
good thing you backed that statement up with logic or evidence. otherwise i'd have to call you a moron!Live play: Internet play :: Paris Hilton: Mother Theresa"Much, much easier" -
I wasn't claiming that he only gets lucky, but I haven't ever really seen him make a play and thought, "Wow, now that was a damn good read." I think my main complaint about Tuan is that he irritates me a little. I just can't imagine winning a tournament and then thinking "Just a couple more mil and I can quit forever." That is the thing that sticks out in my mind that makes Tuan really unlikable to me. I also really hated his all in call of Bradley Berman (AK vs. KK). He was risking way too much of his stack in a spot where Berman HAD to have a big hand. Berman could have had QQ or JJ, but I honestly think that he moved in on Tuan because he had a pretty good idea what Tuan had and was hoping for a call. I think Berman even had position, though I could be mistaken.I haven't seen any real postflop play from Tuan, maybe I am just getting jaded by watching really good flop players.
I don't really think Tuan is just a crazy gambler who gets lucky all the time though. His aggressive style lets him pick up a ton of pots uncontested and then he gets to freeroll every time he decides to take a big gamble. The mere fact that his heads-up opponent doubled up twice (or three times, I can't remember) and Tuan was still in the tourney afterwards illustrates that point. I can't remember who was making the point that Tuan was only lucky (I don't think that it was you), but it's just plain foolish if you believe that.The reference that I was making about the swings was in the NL tournament final tables that I have observed. The live games that Gus plays in are almost exclusively mixed, so it's not really a directly relevant comparison to NL tourneys, though it does illustrate that his gamble does get him into trouble sometimes. -
A cup on the outside of your pants says, "I'm here to play for keeps and I'm not afraid to take an occasional shot to the junk." A tie is probably my real answer though, if it doesn't get loosened, a dude wearing a tie might be hard to rattle. Oh, and a belt with severed heads hanging from it works well too.
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I agree that more people are putting money into games online just for fun, however, the volume of money put into B&M games for fun must be higher. I have sat in B&M games where a guy dropped over $1500 in a 3/6 game. While it may happen occasionally in an online game, I doubt it happens with the same frequency. On top of that, the lowest limit games in B&M rooms is often much higher than online, so you will find much weaker competition in the same level. I have played in rooms where the lowest game they spread was $3/$6, so the competition is very straightforward. Online, though, people will often have worked up to $3/6 so they may have SOME idea what they were doing (I said "may" not "do" :wink: ).
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The reference that I was making about the swings was in the NL tournament final tables that I have observed. The live games that Gus plays in are almost exclusively mixed, so it's not really a directly relevant comparison to NL tourneys, though it does illustrate that his gamble does get him into trouble sometimes.
I'm not saying that Tuan is as good as Gus, I'm just saying that when I first saw Gus, he seemed like one lucky SOB...kinda like what people think of Tuan. And it's been said that Gus has crazy swings when he plays in the big game, so I don't think that the massive swings you claim that Tuan goes through but Gus doesn't exist. Gus has a ton of gamble in him because he doesn't seem to believe in picking his spots to be a solid favorite. If it's a postive expectation play, no matter how small the edge, he seems to take it.
There seems to be a lot more math behind gus's play, IMO. I don't recall seeing Gus go from massive chipleader to almost out, to massive chipleader, to almost out again, to winning. I seem to remember him gambling on several hands and then bludgeoning the table with his stack. IMO, there's a difference between relentless, calculated aggression, and just having a ton of gamble.
I remember thinking the same thing about some guy from Denmark...Gus something, his name escapes me at the moment. :roll:This guy gets so incredibly freakin lucky it actually censored me off......I hate Tuan Le. He plays so damn wildly aggressive, I cant wait for his luck to run out. -
I'm not convinced that $2900 means that you should be playing $4/$8, take some time at $3/$6, make sure you have adjusted to the bigger swings that you'll experience, then move up. Just because the bankroll is close to ready for $4/$8, doesn't mean that you are psychologically prepared for it.
Time is irrelevant, if you have 40K + hands and seeing a 2BB/100 avg at 2/4 you will have no problems with 3/6. Only difference is the pots get bigger. Your BR management is right on and if you have $2900 you should really be playing $4/$8 and close to $5/$10.Well, after a great weekend I now have a bankroll of $2400. I've been moving up in limits consistently from the .5/1 when I first started 7 weeks ago to the 2/4 I am at now. I've turned my $100 initial deposit into $2900 with bonus' and rakeback. I really have two questions. First one, is there a big difference between PP 2/4 and 3/6? The second one is, should I be taking more time between moving up? I only started playing poker seriously 7 weeks ago (couple home games before that) and am averaging about 2BB/100 hands over most of the limits. I have about 40k hands total put in. -
Playing after the fourth cup is definitely -EV...if it makes you feel any better i got back from my seder (its a jewish celebration of the passover holiday, notable for the large amounts of wine one is required to consume as a ritual) smashed off my rocker, and decided to play a little. lost 15 bb before i realized how dumb i was being and shut the computer off (well, more like ripped the power cord out of the wall). -
There seems to be a lot more math behind gus's play, IMO. I don't recall seeing Gus go from massive chipleader to almost out, to massive chipleader, to almost out again, to winning. I seem to remember him gambling on several hands and then bludgeoning the table with his stack. IMO, there's a difference between relentless, calculated aggression, and just having a ton of gamble.
I remember thinking the same thing about some guy from Denmark...Gus something, his name escapes me at the moment. :roll:This guy gets so incredibly freakin lucky it actually censored me off......I hate Tuan Le. He plays so damn wildly aggressive, I cant wait for his luck to run out. -
While the comment that blaze made about online cardrooms having limits just as high as b&m rooms, there are many b&m rooms that have much higher limits than online. There are casinos in my area that regularly spread 100-200 and there's a 10-10-20 no limit game too. Commerce and Bellagio regularly spread games above 300-600, so yes, there are players that get broke jumping limits too quickly.
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He readily admits that he often has a brainfart at the table which knocks him out (the Matusow meltdown) and it is not always bad beats. However, when he is focusing, he takes it extremely hard when the cards don't fall his way.
hes loud and obnoxious at the table. he truely believes he is the best poker player in the world and anytime he loses its due to a series of bad beats.why is his nickname "the mouth"? -
He said if he wins 8 figures then he'll quit forever. I don't agree with some of the things that Mike does at the table (or away from the table for that matter), but I agree with his assessment about Tuan. I haven't really seen anything out of Tuan (in the edited for TV broadcast, mind you) that I haven't seen from dozens of $3-$6 players. One of the hands that almost ended the heads-up battle involved Tuan semi-bluffing all in into Maxfield's two pair and then hitting a gutshot on the river. Yes, it takes skill to win two WPT events, but he seems like a big luckbox to me. I also think that Tuan will never truly be "great" because he doesn't really love the game. Someone who plays not just for the money, but for the money AND the love of the game would never say "I really want to quit as soon as I make some big money." Tuan definitely had to do something right to get that far in two tourneys, but having a ton of gamble doesn't make someone great.Yes indeed, my Vietnamese brethren are tearing it up and have been for a while. However, didn't Tuan say a couple weeks ago on the WPT broadcast that he was going to quit poker as soon as he hit a certain dollar figure? He sounded like he wanted to get in and get out. It would be a shame to see a great young player like him leave the game young. Of course, he is vietnamese and we were born to gamble so we'll have to see if he really does leave. -
Don't slowplay the nut flush, you'll often get called by weaker flushes, and slowplaying is death in omaha. If the board pairs, you just gave a free card that probably hurt you. If a low card comes, you are probably going to be sharing the pot. I VERY rarely check-raise, and only do it when I know that my opponent will bet (some opponents always make a continuation bet on the flop after raising preflop). Other than that, you are just asking for trouble.
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Loose, crazy games aren't for everybody. It can be very hard to win in those games without a sizeable bankroll. Play your game against them. Don't do anything tricky or fancy. Subtle plays are lost on bad players. Don't EVER comment on their play or discuss strategy at the table. The last thing you want to do is educate someone that doesn't care about their money. You'd rather milk them for everything they are worth.
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There aren't really any good books (besides SS and SS2) about NL cash games, since capped NL games are a relatively new beast. That said, the swings are pretty nasty in NL games, which is why many of us have decided to avoid them. I'm not sure how you are going to "master" NL games, since I don't believe that anyone has mastered or will master it, but whenever you've decided that you've attained mastery, realize that you are going to have to be really patient in limit, since you will see many more of your strong hands outdrawn.
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You win it, that's why the dealer taps the muck before revealing the hand. If YOU had asked to see the hand (a huge mistake), then it would have made the hand live, and you'd have lost the pot.yes you are right, cards speak if they are turned face up in a casino. The dealer is suppose to announce the hand and it wins if it was the best. A home game is different cause nobody is obligated to announce the hand. Your on your own, and if you are not paying attention, i say thats your faultOk, i have a related story. i'm playing at the Bike in a 2-4 limit holdem game. there has been alot of betting so the pot is pretty healthy. i'm at the river and i bet and get one caller. I announce my hand as trips and show face up. The new player who called me, looks t my hand and then nods his head and mucks his hand face down. One of the other players who had folded on the turn, wanted to see how this new guy plays and says" i want to see what your bettin with". He then grabs the guys hand , which is already mucked but it didn't touch the other mucked cards and the dealer hasn't gone to collect them yet, and flips them over. The new player had a nut flush but didn't know he hit it.Now, you tell me who wins this pot. -
If you don't find the answers you are looking for here, you might try 2+2's mid- and high-stakes limit section. It sounds like you might need work on your game selection. If you can't find the loose-passive game that it sounds like you're comfortable in, stick to 10-20 until you can find a better game. A loose game like the one you described will cause bigger swings, so make sure you have a comfortable bankroll before you take the plunge.To answer your question, yes 20-40 attracts better players, but there will definitely be plenty of fish too. Pick your spots carefully, and look for a better game.
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I wonder what lit a fire under phil... Maybe he's not playing cash games during this tourney. I hope someone reminds him to stay away from AQ if (when) he gets to the final table...
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lol, wpI'm sick of everyone saying that Phil's the Tiger Woods of PokerTiger shall hereby be known as the Phil Ivey of Golf
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Wait, I thought it had to be suited...
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Nothing hostile about it, I was talking about the guy who called with his QQ and claimed that he was getting pot odds, not you. I was replying to the original poster...
If you reread my post you will notice that I said that if QQ put the players on KK and AA then he is NOT getting odds and should fold, but if QQ put them on maybe AK and JJ, then he is getting odds and should call... you have some misdirected hostility manEasy fold. I've done it before and been wrong, but I still felt okay about it. As to that business about pot odds, there were two people already in the pot and he's a 4:1 dog getting 3:1 on his money... He obviously doesn't understand the term. -
Easy fold. I've done it before and been wrong, but I still felt okay about it. As to that business about pot odds, there were two people already in the pot and he's a 4:1 dog getting 3:1 on his money... He obviously doesn't understand the term.
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How did you guys handle security with all of that money flying around?
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I'm not crazy about playing a two card hand for all of my money. If you knew what their hands were, you'd obviously call, but how did you know that you weren't up against another pair of aces? Incidentally, here are your odds of winning.Calculation results from Poker Calculator 1.1.4.1Omaha Hold'em, 658008 combinations tested.Hand | AhAc9d6h | JhJs9s8d | KhKdTh9h |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+Win | 300736 | 208107 | 146449 |Draw | 0 | 2716 | 2716 |Lose | 357272 | 447185 | 508843 |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+Win% | 45.7% | 31.83% | 22.46% |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+AhAc9d6h: Pair win: 42228 draw: 0 lose: 142058 Two Pair win: 92742 draw: 0 lose: 139888 Three of a Kind win: 65868 draw: 0 lose: 39952 Straight win: 10477 draw: 0 lose: 26975 Flush win: 17436 draw: 0 lose: 1300 Full House win: 62889 draw: 0 lose: 7094 Quads win: 9096 draw: 0 lose: 5 JhJs9s8d: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 137071 Two Pair win: 3988 draw: 0 lose: 196314 Three of a Kind win: 31881 draw: 0 lose: 49883 Straight win: 64838 draw: 2716 lose: 18751 Flush win: 56070 draw: 0 lose: 15547 Full House win: 40382 draw: 0 lose: 29545 Quads win: 9022 draw: 0 lose: 74 Straight Flush win: 1926 draw: 0 lose: 0 KhKdTh9h: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 170344 Two Pair win: 2678 draw: 0 lose: 225623 Three of a Kind win: 47711 draw: 0 lose: 51374 Straight win: 41055 draw: 2716 lose: 18687 Flush win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 18736 Full House win: 45982 draw: 0 lose: 24001 Quads win: 9023 draw: 0 lose: 78 (sorry about the ugly formatting)
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I don't really see a problem with raising pocket 5s short-handed. You're in position, which improves the case. You've probably got the best hand, also. If it isn't good enough to raise short-handed, I don't see how it is good enough to play, since you are probably not going to get odds to flop a set. I say raise it, then chuck it if you encounter a lot of resistance and don't flop a set. I'm not saying raise it every time, or out of position, but I really don't see a problem with raising on the button, in fact, I'd be raising on the button with less than that pretty often.
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