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  1. we disagree. I guess I really should write the article. This payout is the best compromise possible. The math and business theory is behind it.But, obviously you are smarter than Harrah's. That's okay.. I make the same claim in a number of areas. I won't discuss this further here unless people start debating how the payout affects final table play.
    I won't debate you that it effected the final table play, but on a Cardplayer Video Matusow said that the players were very tight with the final ten players becuase of the huge, $400,000 payday jump, and Mike took advantage of this situation.
  2. Here is the biggest mistake of the WSOP, in my opinion, the payout for the Main event.
    This is actually one the "rightest" things they did this year. There's a great CardPlayer video that Rich Belski did with Jack Effel about this. I may write an article about that as ESPN final table broadcast time approaches. The amount of time that they spent on this is evident with the eloquence and amount of information that Jack and other TDs have regarding the subject. They spoke with pros, Tourney experts and in particular a PhD in this field (whose name slips me at the moment).They made a mistake last year, to Raymer's benefit - and many other players' loss. Simply, put the prize pool this year is the best possible compromise to fairly and equitably distribute the prize pool.
    I'm sorry, but when you have a field that is twice as large as the previous year, and 3rd place gets the same amount as last year, that is a problem. I don't care some professor with a PhD doing the payout, they were wrong on many reasons.First, the gimmick that all players at the final table get a million dollars. Great marketing, but bad for the players.Secondly, the payouts themselves, which were influenced by having all the players at the final table recieving a million dollars. Third place was screwed and the difference between 10th place and 9th place was $400,000, while the difference between 9th and 8th/ 8th and 7th was only $150,000. This makes no sence at all.Yes, I did see the video on Cardplayer, yet I was not impressed with how they came up with the payouts, and that all players at the final table would win $1 million. Lastly, please tell me how they made a mistake last year, which you say benefited Raymer, and how other player's lost out.This year, many people got screwed, notabaly Tex Barch, who finished 3rd and only won $2.5 million when he should of got more.
  3. Here is the biggest mistake of the WSOP, in my opinion, the payout for the Main event. First off, let’s look at this year's payouts for the final 18 places compared to last year, and how much higher the payouts are for the 2005 World Series compared to last year. 2005 Change 20041st: $7,500,000 $2,500,000(50%) 1st: $5,000,0002nd: $4,250,000 $750,000 (21.42%) 2nd: $3,500,0003rd: $2,500,000 $ 0 (0%) 3rd: $2,500,0004th: $2,000,000 $500,000 (33%) 4th: $1,500,0005th: $1,750,000 $650,000 (59.09%) 5th: $1,100,0006th: $1,500,000 $700,000 (87.5%) 6th: $800,0007th: $1,300,000 $625,000 (92.59%) 7th: $675,0008th: $1,150,000 $575,000 (100%) 8th: $575,0009th: $1,000,000 $530,000 (112.76%) 9th: $470,00010-12: $600,000 $227,000 (60.85%) 10-12: $373,00013-15: $400,000 $125,000 (45.45%) 13-15: $275,00016-18: $350,000 $175,000 (100%) 16-18: $175,000The payout for this year punishes the third place finisher by not giving them a cent more than 3rd place last year, despite the fact that over 5,500 players are in this tournament, while last year had only 2,576 players. They are in a field twice as large, and get the same amount as 3rd last year, which is very bad planning on the part of Harrah's and who was in charge of the payouts.

  4. Ok, lately ive had horrible bad beats, I know id put this in the bad beat section but Im not writing it like that, its more of a "help me out because I want to know if what im doing is wrong" kinda thing.ok, at a home game tournement, with 5 people, the blinds are 10/20Ive got 2500 in chips roughly. The guy in the SB has about 2400, and the guy in the big blind has about 2700. Im right on the button. Its folded to me, and I look down at an 8-6 suited. I like playing these hands, so I call 10% of my stack with them. I callThe small blind calls, and the big blind raises 150. So I call the 150, which is less than 10% of my stack. The SB also calls. Why call a 150 raise when blinds are 10/20 with 8-6s? Implied odds?______________________________________________Some time later in the tournement, some reckless kid im up against decides to raise pre flop 100. 3 people call, And I look down at my hand, (Pocket aces) WOOOT!!! I re raise 200. I dont want anyone to catch, and I dont want to slow play them in this situation. All fold except the kid who raised first. He calls. The flop comes down 8,4,6, rainbow. Raise it more! 200 more when 4 people called a 100 raise. Raise to 600, and see if you get callers. You were slowplaying in this situation, despite saying you were notTo make matters worse, they critisized me for making a HORRIBLE play with 86 suited.
  5. I would of folded for many reasons:1. You have a raiser behind you. K-Q is o.k to raise with on the button, but questionable to call with, even when you are shorted stacked.2. While you are short-stacked, you have the option of playing a few hands before the blinds come around. If you are in the small or big blind in the situation you described, I would consider going all-in.3. The possibility that the shortest stack at the table would bust soon because he is to your left, and the blinds are coming around to him before you.4. How much does the guy on your left has, and what hands has he showed down today, not the previous session? If he is has a good amount of chips, I don't think he would be bluffing into the button and blinds. If he was low on chips, this might be a suspect play. (This is my theory, you may shred it as much as you want)5. I see no problem with you play after the flop, you made a great hand, and he made a better one.

  6. Would you have folded after a raise and a call with that flop with a flush draw out there and someone could have possibly caught their set already. I wass furious when it was over to see 8 9 won a $635 pot.
    1. It's a flush Draw, not a flush. 2. You have the Ace of Spades. Use this to your advantage. Even if a spade hit the turn , you could still win on the river with an Ace or spade.3. The only "set" you have to worry about is if someone had pocket 10's. Then they would have a full house. Even if someone had a ten, your trip 9's with ace high spade would beat them at this point.You have a great hand, and should of raised, or even push all-in because of the pot size. Even Phil Hellmuth wouldn't lay this down. End result: Bad laydown. The key to this hand, is that you have the Ace of Spades. Don't be worried about a flush draw when you have the Ace of Spades. Lastly, don't play with scared money.
  7. i just realized how much first place gets screwed %-wise in this tourney...
    My thoughts on this, and the rest of the final table payout.The only person who gets screwed is third place. Last year when Josh Arieh won, he got $2.5M, which is exactly what 3rd place will get this year, despite a field more than double in size. Here is what I would propose for the final table payouts:1st: $7M2nd:$4.25M3rd:$3M4th:$2MBy taking 500K from first place and adding it to the 3rd place finisher, this problem would not occur, and would be fair to all the final four players. 2nd: Look at the juice Harrah's is taking in. $56,190,000 for all 5,619 players $10,000 buy-in.Prize pool: $52,818,600Left over: $3,371,400= 6%, or 600 per person4% goes to the house which comes to $2,247,600.2% goes to tournament staff which is $1,123,800.While this is the % same a last year, $600 from each person playing adds up, and I can see why Harrah paid for the rights to the World Series of Poker.
  8. Yea, I had one of those the other day. Was up to $60 on a .25/.5o PLO $25 max buy-in. Went down to $10 when I got all-in with Aces, double suited, and lost to pocket queens (made a str8). Got back up to $35, but made a stupid call when I knew I was beat and lost it in one hand.

  9. Lmao.  It's not a great accomplishment.  Most online omaha players are awful.
    Which is exactly why I play it...it's a cash cow.Here's an example of such a awful play (not done by me).I raise the pot ($1.60) in mid-late position...two off the button.Only Big Blind calls.Flop: Q-A-4 rainbow.I bet pot, he calls.Turn, 3, two diamonds, have none in hand.I bet pot, he moves in for $5 more, I call.Had Qc-Jc-7h-4h.River: 8sI take down over a $20 pot.Update: Was up to $60, down to $53. Had Kc-Kh-9d-2c in mid position. Raised pot. Late position calls.Flop: Jc-7c-4s.I bet pot, he callsTurn: 8d, I bet enought to go all in, calls, has aces, no club or King on river.
  10. To get some confidence back I suggest you go down in limits for a few days, or if you are sick of your losing streak, try a new game. I played limit hold'em and got sick of the suckouts, bad beats, and not being able to push people out of a hand. I moved onto Pot Limit Omaha and love it. Just learn the game at the lowest stakes possible and move up. Have had over $40 wins over two hours at .25/.50 PLO. Very profitable if you know how to play.

  11. While I have played live, I prefer Online poker for many reasons.1. No misdeals, dealer errors, or any confusion on who won the pot.2. Online is much faster than live and you can multi-table and play any kind of stakes.3. Good rake comparted to B&M casinos.4. No tipping. (Tipping is -EV)5. No travel to casino. 6. Much better tournament structure for low buy-in than B&M casinos.7. Can play any game you want online from Razz to Pot Limit Omaha, and Draw games. B&M casinos have limited games (more so for small poker rooms)8. Very limited waiting (if any) for online gamesI had an enjoyable and profitable time when I played in a Casino, but I prefer online because you can make more money, get dealt more hands per hour, and play tons of different games, tournaments, and SnG's.

  12. Do not move up in limits. You will lose your money much quicker, and your wins at the higher limits are not over a long period of time. Secondly, ask yourself why you are losing. Is is small amounts each time, or do you blow it all in an hour? To track your results, I suggest you use Card Player's poker Analyst (Free Service). Lastly, see if you can make money in a new game. I started playing Pot Limit Omaha because I had mixed results in hold'em, and have seen a steady profit. But if you are not into that, find you weak spots (too tight, too obvious, don't know when to muck a hand, etc...) and improve on each area so you become a better, well rounded player.

  13. The only reason this tournament had massive suckouts is because the blinds at the end of play sucked. When play started six handed, the blinds were 40K/80K with 22.6M chips in play, which is fine, becuase there is over 282 big blinds between six players, which averages around 47 per player. Yet at the end with Maxfield and Tuan left, the blinds were 300K/600K, and if that wasn't bad enough, they were raised to 400K/800K. With only 22.6M in play their were only 28.25 Big Blinds between the two players, which makes for less than stellar poker. If the blinds were structured better, you wouldn't see as much of the crazy plays these guys did.

  14. Why stick with hold'em (both limit, pot-limit, and no-limit) when you can make much more money if you learn a more complex game like Pot Limit Omaha, 7 card stud 8/b, Omaha 8/b, or Triple draw A-5 or 2-7? In low limits, both online and at B&M casinos, I believe that the luck factor is less of one in these games than in hold'em. While I love playing these games, I don't like playing tournaments or SnG's. If playing a tournament or SnG I love NL because you can pressure people, which you can't do in a limit SnG or tournament. In NL, you don't need the best hand, or to even show down your hand to win. But cash/ring games is very profitatble and more steady than tournaments and SnG's. SnG's are fun to play, but you can make more $ playing ring games.

  15. I was playing .10/.25 PLO on UB a few minutes ago when this hand came up.I have :heartsq:, :clubsq:, :hearts5:, :spades7:, in mid-late postion (two off the button) and with thre elimpers I limp in as well. Everyone else to act calls, and the flop comes:spadesq:, :clubsk:, :diamondsa:. Everyone checks around and I bet the pot. The button calls the $2 bet.The turn is the :diamondsk:, which gives me a full house. I check, and the button bets 1/2 the pot, and I callThe river is the :diamonds7 and I bet the pot, which leaves me with $3. Button raises to put me all-in and I call. I am sickened when he shows me :clubsa:, :clubsk:, x, x, and wins a $40 pot. My main question is should I have been wary of the 1/2 pot bet? (I thought he might of have a straight and was seeing where he was at.)Also, at any point in the hand, could I have played it differently (besides folding pre-flop)?

  16. You guys are absolutely f'n nuts if you think that thats not a bad beat. Especially the one guy who said he cracked quad aces with a straight flush. Its almost the same thing. A one-outer. You hit the one card you could hit the only card. I just dont get it. i think thats a terrible beat.
    You are incorrect.First off, the quad aces losing to a royal flush did not happen to me, but was posted on recpoker.comSecond, let's look at the % to win of each of the two hands. (cardplayer.com)Trip Kings beaten by Quad 4'sPre Flop: Kings: 64.3%9's: 19.6%4's: 16.1%.On the flop: Kings: 32.9%9's: 9.0%4's: 58.1%Turn: Kings: 97.6%9's: 0%4's 2.4%. The river brought the one out the trip four's had.Quad aces beaten by Royal FlushPre-flop: Aces: 79.9%Qs-10s: 20.1%On the flop:Aces: 99.9%Qs-10s: 0.1%Turn:Aces: 97.7%Qs-10s: 2.3%While the odds on the turn for both hand were nearly identical, the Qs-10s had to hit perfect runner-runner to win the pot. Also, the Kings vs. 9's and 4's got all-in pre-flop, where the Kings only had a 64.3% chance of winning. The only possible way that these two hands could have the same odds on both the turn and the river is if the Kings had hit trips on the flop, and the turn and river came runner-runner four's.On the turn, you are right, "Its almost the same thing." Yet the odds on making the royal flush on the turn was nearly a 1000-1 shot, while the fours was never that long of a shot to make his hand. You are f'n nuts that you think these two hands are the same.
  17. Don't give your adress out to random internet posters.  You never know when they'll show up covered in Miracle Whip and peanuts censored racoons in your front yard.
    I take it you know this from experience. What I don't know is if you were on the recieving or giving end of this spectacle.Also, if this person was a very attractive female or famous, hot female celebrity, this might be a good thing, but I would substitute whipped cream for the Miracle Whip and chocloate syrup for peanuts censored racoons. I have yet to figure out what exactly the censored means, but I have an idea.
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