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  1. I have to object to the tactic of accusing anyone who is against something of "hate". There are plenty of reasons to oppose various behaviors and ideas that do not derive from phobias and hatred, and unless there is direct evidence of hatred we don't need to go there. I am strongly opposed to religion, but I don't hate religious people unless they are brvheart. I'm not an islamophobe.
    I'm using 'hate' there as a generic disapproval. I certainly don't expect BG to champion us going all KKK on their asses.
  2. Are you sure that's what I do?Cause I think what I do is much better.I turn it around and lump your guys into a similar situation and watch you guys squirm.Much more fun for me that way.
    I agree that you're entertaining, but you have zero credibility. Zero.When you fail to admit or even acknowledge your own inconsistencies or those of your peers, your credibility suffers. I know you know this, and you are happily and willfully ignorant, or you seem to be. Since you're willfully ignorant wrt religion, people are going to assume you're the same way on other topics. Throw in your liberal use of 'you guys' and 'your side', and here we are.I wouldn't want to admit that my religion fosters pedophilia either, or admit that it's easy to hate the gays under the guide of marriage being a scared institution. Slippery slope.
  3. It's hilarious to me that BG's choice dismissal is to use 'your side', but when people who disagree with him use generalities that are embarrassing (intolerance, gayhate) to describe him, he always is first to get mad and say, "Don't lump me in with those guys, they're crazy". oh well.

  4. I think Louie is one of the only 5 or so standups who is actually funny...so I've been sort of shocked by how unfunny this show is. And he is obviously incredibly inexperience, and not very good at handling all the roles he's taken on with this project. But it still has the pieces to be one of the best shows on TV, and sometimes there are moments of sheer genius. This week was great. The show would probably be pretty funny and mediocre with a bunch TV writers and experienced directors, and I probably wouldn't give a shit. I think in a season or two this could be one of the couple best shows on TV.
    What?!? You like Louis ck, but you don't like the show?What do you think about the 'faggot' piece at poker night? What about the recent 'smoking pot with the neighbor' bit? The 'heckler' bit? I have really enjoyed this show. While I'm sure you'll agree that not every bit can be funny (see: SNL), I think he's doing a really good job.
  5. That's exactly why I can't be bothered with this discussion. Morality is just individual perception, and can always be discussed both ways. I do think the illusion of enemies portrayed globally (for the muslims its the US, for the US it's the muslims etc.) is extremely dangerous, especially because so many people seem to follow along. Enemies are just perception, just as friends, in the end we are all human & we tend to always find enemies and destroy each other. Just curious where all of this is heading.
    Your posts aren't worth reading.You are quickly becoming the most annoying poster on these boards, and that's really saying something. We all know you don't care though, so carry on.
  6. This was my general point. His bill was a big pile of nothing that crippled him politically. He cashed in all his credits to do very little. I will never understand it.
    As it stands, HealthcareReform2010 will be the death of private insurance companies, with medicare, medicaid and other unsustainable government entitlement programs will be the only thing to replace insurance companies when they stop selling insurance. I know you won't mind this, but my buddy who works at Anthem will be negatively affected. If nothing changes, obama got exactly what he wanted, the creation of a huge entitlement program and a huge increase in government for his buddies.Hopefully you are right and this cripples him. I don't understand it either, the only thing I understand is that I hate politicians and our 2 party system. If we took away the third party, then we might find actual electable people. But dems and repubs would never allow competition, so we'll always be stuck with hard liners.
  7. Making hospitals more sanitary, reducing infections, etc. are just the types of things that we need to do to reform our healthcare system. 80% of malpractice claims are paid out in the US. That speaks for the need for tort reform, another thing not addressed in this legislation.Here is a good article from Consumer Reports.I don't see anything in the healthcare legislation that addresses this problem, or anything related to it. It did create a bunch of new agencies for obama to appoint his buddies to, so that's nice.That's what is so maddening about healthcare reform. It didn't do anything to address our actual healthcare system, which badly needs reform. This just makes government bigger and increases the amount of people on the public teat. It did nothing to address reform.

  8. If you think I have said that Obama's health care reform was a good thing, then you have not read a word I wrote about it. Sorry.I will engage you on this; I think Obama care was a political disaster that changed little in terms of access and did little to address cost. However, I don't think it made the situation appreciably worse either. It basically does nothing while submarining him politically.
    This is what I was addressing. I understand that we agree the healthcare bill sucks, but I don't think you see or realize how much of a negative impact it will have as-is. Also, if the legislation stays as it is, it will be the end of private insurance companies and the beginning of the socialization of our healthcare system. I don't think you want to wait 18 months for an MRI for your back, do you? This legislation will ensure exactly that. This legislation, when looked back at in 25 years, will have a huge effect on obama's legacy. People like LLY will be seeing this as the first step in moving our country to the left. This might sound like alarmism or something (if I'm even using that word correctly), but I think I'm right. But, there are two elections between now and then, so we'll see.LLY, I don't have time to address your post but I'll get to it, thanks for replying.
  9. A) You just think they are cluster****s that will cause tons of problems 10 years from now. As far as I can tell the healthcare bill did basically nothing other than slap some lipstick on a pig. The stimulus bill was just another stimulus bill.....like you said maybe we should not have done it that way but acting like the one stimulus bill has broken the camel's back is just another part of this ridiculous hyperbole about how bad Obama has been. When your deficit is multiple trillions acting like a 787 billion dollar deal to help try and stimulate the economy during a horrible recession was so turrrrrible is kinda silly.B) The passage of two bad bills does not = destroying America......and it definitely should not make people think he was born elsewhere or a secret Muslim/Communist/whateverC) I'll take two crappy domestic spending bills over a fouled up war and the destruction of the American economy. You want long term consequences.....check out Iraq 10 years after we leave for good. That should be fun......checking out Iran's new fiefdom.I don't object to people thinking Obama has been a bad President. I do object to this doomsday, BS, he's the worst EVAH! crap because in the context of 2000-2008 it is just ludicrous. And in the context of some of our long ago presidents.....well it's just insane.
    The healthcare bill is affecting us now. Feel free to take this to the healthcare thread, but you and LLY continue to say that healthcare reform is a good thing, and this legislation is not reform. Feel free to engage me on that.For example, one of the first things implemented is mandated coverage of children up to age 19. That's a good thing. However, the legislation did nothing to address the ''how's'' of the bill. As of September 23, children must be approved regardless of health. So, the insurance companies have stopped allowing children-only policies to reduce their risk. There were child-only policies before this legislation, and now they are going away. That's not increasing access, controlling costs or anything else. What's a single mom supposed to do if they can only afford care for their children, not themselves? I have a client right now facing this situation.
    So, which cluster fucks has he caused, exactly, that currently effect us? And how did his policies cause them? I really can't think of any.
    How about the healthcare reform bill? You seem to continue to champion this piece of legislation as a positive thing and you also refuse to acknowledge it as a negative.I asked you to discuss end-of-life care when it was addressed in the healthcare thread.If you think this legislation is so good, what good things does it do for us? And how is this bill better than any alternatives? Do you have any comment on the nature of the 'pass first, read later' of how this legislation was passed?
  10. Actually most of us are not promoting the notion that the government step in and stop them, because that would be illegal and we've already watched the government step in and take private citizen's property away from them to build a strip mall ( which never got built ) and the left was strangely silent when that was going on. At least the left here, the left in Washington were supporters of it.We are also supporters of freedom of religion, as shown through the many things we do like build churches and pray on the steps of the Supreme court ( even though we were stopped for silently praying on the steps and told to leave by the police ). Again, strangely silent on the freedom of religion from the left.We also are supporters of muslims, as shown by recently having Christian doctors dentist and nurses going to northern Afghanistan to help the people for free, even though the muslims ended up killing them. The left was not totally silent, but not really loud.I can understand Obama's position. He is not free to speak against the mosque because he has responsibilities to his office that keeps him from just spouting off whatever he thinks whenever he thinks it. He has troops fighting along side muslim allies, and must deal with muslims around the world, so I am fine with his saying the mosque is legal and is a local matter.But what I am not okay with is the left once again turning something that is clear and trying to make it murky. Suddenly being for religion when the last 30 years has shown that they want Christianity behind closed doors.That they support muslims blindly, even though the muslims are the ones who started the war.And for pulling out the tried and true racist label for anyone who disagrees with their 'open mindedness'.So the question fro you is can we be accepting of it's legality, and still be against it's being built?
    You are also a supporter of gays being gay, as long as they don't get to share the sanctity of marriage. So no, you're side doesn't really 'support' muslims. But I'm enjoying watching you attempt to explain it as anything different than intolerance.
  11. You are considered a higher risk if you have consumed, even once, tobacco. The delivery method doesn't matter. BG and his cigar smoking will get neck, throat and mouth cancer along with the chewing tobacco guys, and not as much lung cancer as the cigarette guys. In most areas, you are considered a tobacco user until you have been tobacco free for two years.BG, once again, why do your poor decisions (cigars) make you any better than cigarette smokers or chewing tobacco users?

  12. I'm way too lazy to search for the study, but I recall a recent and seemingly non-garbage one that noted that (in Canada), smokers actually had similar or lower costs than non-smokers. Why? Significantly lower life expectancies. Sure, they were unhealthy younger, but that just meant 10 years the government was not supporting their old-age ass.I'm not sure if you were only talking about insurance providers. It really doesn't work for that, obviously.
    Moving forward, you'll see life insurance policies charge 3x-10x for smokers, because most lifelong smokers have very large costs for end-of-life care with transplants and other related health problems. You're right about lower life expectancy, but they also cost a lot more during that period.That's just one thing wrong with end-of-life care.
  13. california, specifically san francisco, seems like it could be its own country.honestly, I don't know. we have all these programs that cover people in certain circumstances and this garbage leads to poor health, higher costs. bring in the fat police or figure out a way to adjust how much we're taxing people depending on how healthy they are. trying to get restaurants to serve healthier food via municipality regulations seems like a silly cat/mouse game.tl;dr: cover everyone or no one
    Slightly related: In Colorado, we used to be able to give up to a 25% discount on healthy groups, and up to a 10% surcharge for unhealthy groups with high utilization, tobacco rates, etc. The fatties complained, they changed the rules to take those discounts away, now we have community rating.I don't think anything like what you're suggesting could ever be implemented. Instead, we get limits on salt in our food, or laws making toys with kids meals illegal.
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