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  1. I live in Reno, NV and go to Las Vegas about 4 or 5 times a year. I’ve played in some of the larger mixed games at the bellagio, but am looking for smaller stakes. I know that the venetian used to have a regular 6-12 mix on Saturdays, but learned that this game is now not regular and rare. Are there any low or mid-limit, regular or semi-regular, mix games in las vegas? Also, I am looking for a regular low to mid limit seven card stud 8/b, stud hi/lo regular, 2-7 tripple draw, or badugi in vegas as well.Basically I need any information on any regular non HE cash games (except for Omaha 8/b, I think I pretty much know where all of them are).

  2. Does anyone know of any good places to play live poker in the Caribbean? Also, can anyone let me know about any Caribbean poker cruises (besides cardplayer, I know that this is the best one, but I have scheduling conflicts). Trans-atlantic poker cruises would be fine as well. Thanks,

  3. Looking for card room in the US that spreads lowball – preferably 15-30 and under. Also wondering if there are any dealers choice games being spread under 15-30 limit. I imagine that California would be the place most likely to have anything like this.

  4. That's what I would do. People tend to be bad at doing abstract/verbal logic on the spot. Showing them is much easier.
    That’s what I thought originally too, I was told that this did happen with no success. Omaha hi/lo can sometimes be very difficult to deal/play/understand at times even for the most experienced of players (all make mistakes), but this along with the fact that the popularity of poker has heightened demand for personnel at poker rooms - most are not properly trained on anything else besides hold’em - makes the situation ripe for serious blunders…and makes this situation somewhat believable and unsurprising
  5. On first thought, I decided that it was entirely unacceptable to go to an outside source for a ruling as well…but consider that this was not one of the ‘grey areas’, or sometime subjective parts of live poker play…this was as simple as deciding who has the best hand…and if someone is actually becoming victim to the incompidence of more than on employees…then I think it’s a different story. I don’t know what I would’ve done if it were me, or had I been at that table….

  6. I was playing Omaha 8/b last night at a local casino in Reno, NV and I started talking to another player who was in town from Southern California. We started talking about Omaha in the California card rooms and he claimed that Commerce was a place that was spreading a lot of Omaha 8/b. And then he told the table about an occurrence at a 10/20 omaha 8/b game at Commerce that he witnessed. Now, obviously all of this information is hear/say, but this is interesting enough for me to pass along:A hand with a considerable amount of action went to a showdown between two players. The pot was around $400; the board read T T 7 7 5; player A shows AK24; player B shows A523.The dealer incorrectly pushes the pot to player A. Player B interjects and explains that he has two pair, T’s and 5’s with an ace, while player A only has a pair of T’s with an AK. The dealer (incorrectly) explains that player A has two pair, T’s and 7’s with an AK (I know, pretty silly…but just wait). Here’s where it gets even more interesting – seven of the other players backed the dealer’s decision. Although player B, and the guy who told me this story tried their best to explain that player A’s hand was AKTT7, and player B’s hand was A55TT, they could not get the pot pushed to the winner. The floor was called over and, amazingly, concluded that the dealer had made the CORRECT ruling. Knowing that this was one-thousand percent wrong, the guy who told this story said that he proposed to the floorman that he would call another California card room, get one of their floor people on the phone, explain the situation, and have them explain to Commerce’s floorman why he was wrong. Now, I’m not sure of the place he chose to call, but he based the decision on the other place being very experienced in spreading Omaha. Apparently, the two floor people talked, and the pot was finally awarded to player B. One more thing, there was one person at that table who initially knew that the wrong player was being awarded the pot…it was player A. apparently this guy later said that he knew the wrong decision was being made, but he didn’t say anything in hopes that he would scoop the relatively large pot. Back to yesterday in Reno. The dealer at our table argued with the man telling the story that any card room would not, and could not accept a decision made by another card room. According to our dealer, even if the wrong decision was made, it should stand even if a different card room supervisor/floorperson offered a different ruling. And if they did, then the floorman should be fired on the spot.There are several issues that should be addressed, but here are the main ones:- Was it wrong for the man telling this story to propose to call a floorman form another card room?- Was it wrong for the floorman to accept?- Should there ever be an outside authority to make such rulings? - Should there be any reprimanding action taken to anyone in this situation (dealer, floorman, player A)? I would like to hear what you have to say about this. I had a situation like this happen to me in the Taj. I was playing 2/4 omaha 8/b when I had a showdown with a lady when I held AQ45 and she held AQKT. The board was Q 2 2 4 9. I had QQ449 and she had AQQ22…the dealer split the pot explaining that we both had AQQ22. I tried to explain, but no one seemed to understand. The pot was very small, and I just let it go not wanting to waist the time of the other players, or myself for that matter. The more and more I think about it, I become more upset with myself that I did nothing.

  7. It's his responsibility to observe the table...it is not your responsibility to fill him in on information that he missed. For anyone who thinks that "lying" was unethical...would it be unethical to not answer at all?...

  8. Yeah, the tournament chips at any casino are purposely very different than the cash game chips. As for my original question, the 25k chip is the highest chip denomination at Bellagio. In the book, those chips were a very cranberry-like, red color and were called "cranberries."I thought that perhaps the Bellagio had circulated new brown color 25k chips or something...or Craig, the author, had it wrong from the start.

  9. DN is referring to the Bellagio's $25,000 chip as "peanuts"...but i'm pretty sure that in The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide king, it said that a Bellagio $25,000 chip were called "cranberries" because of their distinct color.Were the chips changed or something?

  10. 4-bet max is what I'd have if I was fortunate enough to own a casino in my hometown. It keeps more players alive for a longer period and therefore more rake. Usually the max. rake will be hit on both the 4-bet or 5-bet cap.It's like the max. buy-in rule for NL games. The casinos don't care about the players' well being. The caps are there to ensure there will be enough players alive to continue to rake throughout the day.Less betting means more hands. More hands means more rake.
    Interesting point. What if, however, you were playing in a 20-40 timed game (or time-pot game) and there were no rake implications. Would your opinion change?
  11. Poker rooms in Nevada allow five total bets on each betting street (one bet and four raises) for all limit games. Other places around the country only allow four total bets (one bet and three raises) on each betting street for limit games. Can anyone make a case for why one might be better over the other? If you were setting the rules at a poker room, which policy would you choose and why?

  12. Boredom gets the best of me at a live table as well…especially if you are playing with people who do not provide interesting conversation. The best thing, I think, to do is to pay close attention and to mentally get involved in every hand. I try to put players on their exact holdings, or at the very least, try to determine their general skill level and/or playing styles. It is important to keep your head in the game because I do find that I am creating more of an edge for myself by using the information that I’ve gathered.

  13. Omaha split at the Taj Mahal, Atlantic City, NJ. My hand - AQ34Opponent’s hand AQXX Board Q42 2 XNo qualifying low…dealer starts to split the pot. Me: what are you doing? I have the best hand.Dealer and entire table: You both have the same hand. Two Pair, Queens and duces, ace kicker.Me: I have Queens and Fours…Dealer and Table (screaming). SAME HAND SEE!!, SAME HAND..QUEENS AND DUCES QUEENS AND DUCES!!Me: I have queens and fours…………..Dealer and Table: QUEENS AND DUCES! SAME HAND!Thank god there was another guy who is experienced and respected who had to point out to the dealer, and to the other seven players why I had the best hand.

  14. Most live poker rooms advertise as spreading the three basic poker games – Stud, Omaha, and hold’em. I always ask the dealers if they ever spread any Omaha 8 (don’t ask the managers because they will always claim that they do)…Me: do you ever get any Omaha split spread hereDealer(s): NoMe: Can I start an interest list?..Dealer(s): you can if you want, but there aren’t any dealers here who are trained to deal Omaha…Me: really?...what about stud?...Dealer(s): same thing…Not necessarily the dealers fault, I know, but it makes the statements no less ridiculous.

  15. I will watch the GSN show on Amarillo Slim, and to answer your question…Poker Bustouts was not worth the money in my opinion. I’ve seen the Fox Sports Net show about poker in the 50s 60s and 70s, but I have not seen the one about the guy who took a year off to try to become a pro...but I’ll take your word that it was bad.I’m sort of surprised that a filmmaker has not made a comprehensive documentary on poker in its current state.

  16. good points.I ask just because I’ve noticed that it’s been at 3k, 6k for the last few posts. I was wondering if there was some other reason why the games were not as full as usual. I don’t think that the Venetian will actually be able to pull away the regular big game players. Therefore, I doubt that there will be a game as big as 4k 8k. With the Wynn and Caesars not being able to spread games that high, I’m not sure that the Venetian will be able to either.

  17. I was wondering if anyone had any information or wanted to speculate on why the big game seemed to drop from 4000-8000 to 3000-6000. It also seems that the game is often shorthanded. My guess is that the purpose for dropping the limit was to invite more players – namely those who may want to step up from 2000-4000, but didn’t feel comfortable jumping to 4000-8000. Also,Management at the new poker room at the Venetian is not being shy about their claims that their poker room will be the Bellagio’s competitor. In fact, they are advertising having a “regular” 4000-8000 game. Does anyone know if any of the big game regulars are going to consider playing at Venetian as well?

  18. Thanks for the post…It is so much more interesting to hear about and discuss live ‘b&m’ poker. I’m sure others will agree.*I really hate the fact that it has to be specified when one speaks about “b&m” poker rather that it just being assumed. In my mind it makes much more sense to specify ‘online poker.’ When necessary. Sorry for getting off-topic.

  19. I agree with you 100%. What I am saying is that many poker rooms are taking a new approach to the rules of the game to accommodate exclusive internet players who really don’t know all of the rules. Even though the dealer didn’t immediately kill the hand (which they should have) I wouldn’t fault them in this matter. Live players should really take issue with the poker room managers and their loose interpretations of the rules.

  20. I definitely think it’s a muck, but I understand the floors' decision. As I think that it is the player’s responsibility to read the hand correctly and to act accordingly, if the hand was out on the table without being touched by the dealer or without touching any other cards, then the floor (depends on where you are) might decide that the hand is not dead and as long as the “mistake” was declared that the hand may still be live and ‘protected.’ This is, however, unfortunate. I only play live and I’ve been running into way, way too many people who do not know the rules and experienced players seem to be the ones who get punished. My take is that, if a rule is enforced correctly, then the value is that the player who made the mistake will never make that mistake again…and any player who was at the table and sees the situation will learn as well. Now, every person at that table has a misconstrued idea of what the correct action was.Since the poker boom, a few poker room managers have abandon the idea of enforcing the rules and have adopted the concept of “getting the money to the best hand.” This is a perfect example of this.

  21. I would advise you to play more limit. You would be amazed at how much limit play can improve your no limit game. You play so many more streets and there are so many more showdowns that your ability to put player’s on starting hands will become much better. This is applicable, also, to other poker games – tournament or not, learn to become skilled at all poker games and you will become more skilled in your hold’em games.

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