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Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.15/$0.305 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $23.65CO: $30.20Button: $64.05SB: $65.35Hero: $107.65Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
UTG calls, CO raises to $1.35, 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.Flop: 
($4.2, 3 players)Hero bets $3.4, UTG calls, CO calls.Turn: ($14.4, 3 players)Hero check/folds?Pretty sure this is standard, but I just want to make sure no one else keeps the lead. -
Not sure if you guys saw this yet, but Chip Resse died last night. From pokernews.com: News FlashDavid 'Chip' Reese, 1951-2007Reports are quickly circulating about the sudden and untimely passing of poker legend David 'Chip' Reese overnight. Details are still emerging on Reese's shocking passing, and a complete obituary on one of poker's all-time greats will be published in the near future. Reese was a feared cash-game legend and a regular member of the 'Big Game' at the Bellagio, who focused less on tournaments than other players. Still, Reese demonstrated his poker mastery by winning the first-ever $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. event at the WSOP in 2006, his third career WSOP bracelet.
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I completely agree. At first when I saw the hand I was shocked, but the more I thought about it the more I realized that Doyle actually makes a really good fold there in that situation with the really deep stacks everyone has. Oh and I like Jamie Gold as a person though. I knew a guy like him once, very confident and outgoing to the point of seeming too much sometimes, but one of the nicest guys you'll meet if you get to know him. But if you just view him at a distance its easy to thing he's just an arrogant ass.Really, I think that's a more interesting hand. With Doyle having the T8 and Jamie being confident, Doyle folded because Jamie had really the only flush combination (97ss) that was lower than Doyle's (T8ss) that was really playable and was big enough to be confident in. I don't think Jamie makes that raise with 45ss, but or 67ss or something and there are way more Axss combos and then the J9ss combo for Jamie to have. Also, it's only the turn and if Jamie has a flush, he's obv betting the river and Doyle's hand can't really take calling 2 big bets when you read your opponent and he feels he's got the best hand. -
I agree. I think the only reason Patrick can call is because he knows that Gold has a big hand and if he flops/turns big he can bust him. That's why Doyle laid down the 10 high flush to Golds 9 high flush. He read Gold as strong, and Gold indeed thought he was strong, and there weren't many flushes he could beat, so he made the correct fold against Gold's range IMO. It was pretty clear that Gold was out of his element in that game.Gold doesn't have an useful image against anyone who's good because he's so obvious and wouldn't be audacious enough to bluff that level. -
I see your point but I felt like I had a good feel for this guy and how he played. I don't know that my ace is no good here. I know he has a hand, but I also know that his post flop play is very transparent, so I felt confident in my ability to outplay him after the flop. That's actually the point of the post. If I flop top pair with the nut flush draw against almost anyone else at the table I hellmuth my chips into the pot. But against this guy I know he's never playing the hand after the flop this way with a hand I beat at showdown unimproved. The problem with the hand was that my plan for it was thwarted from the beginning. The villain wasn't my mark at the table. There were plenty of other ATMs there who would have paid me off, so I played the hand to maximize my chances of getting their chips. When the short stack raises and the villain calls though my plans change and I shift gears to play against the villain, who plays a bizarre form of TAG poker that is fairly easy to read and outplay after the flop. So I don't really feel I was lost at any point until the actual decision where I am able to narrow down his possible holdings to 3 likely hands. If the flop comes A92r and the action is the same I dump the hand. Its that simple. This guy played weird preflop but VERY transparent postflop.you're not OOP to the villain.when playing cash games, you need to be aware of everyone at the table just like in tournaments. who do you have position on, and so forth.You have position on the big stack who limped in EP. Your raise, followed by a re-raise by the short stack will give you a lot of info on villain.If he calls or raises, obv youir AJs sucks. but you limped, and she raised 25 and he calls. I dont know the table, but its live game, and thus, ranges go way up. I'm sure he'll call almost any PP here, Big ace, maybe even suited connectors... why not right? Live play is very loose.So now what do you do? you call the 25 multiway, surely your ace is no good? so basically you're calling 25 for a flush? Now not only do you need villain to hit a hand, but u need to hit a flush.all because you're lost in this hand from the start and are simply calling with hopes and dreams.anyways, call was answereed and yiou flopped miracle. -
I agree, with the first part, which is why I played the hand in the first place. But I was OOP and felt it was more likely that I would run into a weaker ace if I didn't raise. Once the short stack raised, I was confident that I had her beat and if I wanted to get heads up with her I would have raise there. But at that point I wanted to play a big pot with the villain, because, as you said, he was the one with the money. If I reraise there then he folds everything I beat and calls with everything that crushes me.preflop, your hand has some value, especially since its a 1/2 cash game, where lots of people over value weak aces.i'd raise here preflop, villain might end up re-raising, or not. regardless, villains lines will change dramatically since you showed strength and you can stack him. Donk showed all the strength but he only has 50, and some people who play part time would rather gamble against short stacks with 0 implied odds, than play deep stacks. -
Ok, that's what I thought, the raise is pretty standard. I raised, he thought for five minutes freaking out about folding the hand and finally shoved with ak. I crushed his soul when I spiked the 3d on the river. Not sure what the short stack had. I'd rather be lucky than good.
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1/2 nlhe @ the venetianStack SizesShort Stack - ~50Hero - ~400Villain - covers hero by $1The short stack in this hand is sort of a loose donk who is somewhat passive, but she doesn't seem to have a good idea of hand selection. I'm sure I'm ahead of her, or at least flipping at every point in the hand. The villain is somewhat tight, yet I wouldn't consider him solid. He's been at the table for a few hours, only played a few hands, and played them relatively bad and sometimes did some surprising things, none of which I can remember now. He seems to overvalue his one pair hands, but it has to be a strong one pair hand. He's not stacking off with AJ on this board. I'm probably viewed as somewhat LAG. Hero is dealt A
J one fold, villain limps, hero limps, 2 folds, MP limps, one fold, button limps, sb (short stack) raises to 25, one fold, villain calls, hero calls, two folds.(Pot: 81)Flop: A K 2 sb bets 25, villain raises to 70, hero???In my mind the villains range is pretty narrow. His most likely hands are AK, AQ, or A2s (weird, but possible). Less likely he could also have AA, KK, AJ, A10, or 22. He's not raising a draw here. Honestly, I think I need to either just call or shove. If I raise without shoving he will call with his entire range except for the hands I currently beat, but if I shove he is passive enough to fold AQ and A2, and he will call with everything else that beats me. If I just call, what do I do if I brick the turn and he leads? What if the turn is the A ? J ? -
I agree with this. I didn't play this hand, Daniel Negreanu did: http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/16999.I read this yesterday and it was bugging me ever since. I just can't wrap my head around playing like this. I can understand preflop and even the flop. But I think the turn is a raise or fold. Seems like we're going to the river blind. But I don't really know what the correct thing would be in this scenario. What does everyone think? Does the fact that DN made the play change anything?The river is fine and I'm instacalling his shove obv. Every other move in the hand is questionable. -
Live 1/2 NL home game.Everyone has about 1k in front of them. Hero is in the BB with K
K UTG limps, UTG +1 limps, MP raises to 4, CO raises to 16, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG +1 calls, MP folds(Pot $69)Flop: 9 8 7 Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG +1 checks, CO bets 75, Hero calls, 2 folds(Pot $219)Turn: Q Hero checks, CO bets 200, Hero calls(Pot $619)River: K Hero bets 450, CO callsCO is solid tag with decent tournament results. Same with UTG. UTG +1 and MP are relatively new/bad players. What do you think of the line? -
If you think its a good play why post it?sorry but i disagree with you guys big time. my cards aren't the point and i said that to begin with. are you trying to tell me that on a table like that i should expect to be called for $170 limp reraise all in by A5s, AQo, and 910o? i knew what i was up against and made a play i'm surprised didn't work. consider the situation not the outcome... hopefully somebody out there can play beyond their cards and can give me a better opinion here. i'd like to know if anybody has had a similar situation in which players go haywire for no apparent reason. to me calling with anything less than KK is absurd. -
I'm still torn with how I played the hand and perhaps its the results getting to me. I was surprised after the villain checked behind and tabled 2-3o. Now I know that my hand is ahead of his range overall, so I don't think I should have folded at any point. I agree that my bets should have been more though. I'm still not sure if I should have taken a more aggressive approach in the hand like Acid and others have suggested. Anyways, thanks for the thoughts.
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Yeah, I checked intending to call any bet (worst case is 200, giving me 3-1 on my call).Nah, easy river call. Leading out on river is based more on if we feel he has a 6 9 or 10 and if he will call with it, over if he has a busted hand that he will bet. If he's huge our lead gets raised and we can't call, hopefully he's not capable of reading into our thin value bet and raise missed flushes here. Generally checking might get him to bluff and might get him to wrongly value bet his other hands that we have crushed. -
Bay 101 live 2-3-5 blinds, 200 spread limit game. (200 max bet)The villain in this hand was like Jamie Gold in almost every sense. He looked like him (with some facial hair), talked like him, bet like him, everything. He also played a lot like him, except looser. This guy was a maniac. He played almost every hand in any position for almost any amount. Up to this point though he was on fire. In the first hour I had played he had won every pot that went to showdown and most of the others. It was scary how lucky he was getting. He was also capable of firing three barrel bluffs. Bets both draws and made hands aggressively. Villain thinks hero is solid and seems to respect me. Stacks: Hero: ~850Villain: ~1800Villain raises to 20 in MP, folds to hero in SB with J
J . Hero calls.I just call here because I'm sure that I will be heads up with villain, I know that he will probably call any reraise I make, and I will be OOP. I didn't want to be OOP against this opponent with jacks in a big pot with deep stacks. I'm really torn on this decision though because I think i should have reraised for value here. Thoughts?Pot: 45Flop - 6 2 2 Hero checks, villain bets 30, Hero raises to 80, villain hums and haws and callsAt this point I know he has something. From his talk it looks more like a made hand than a draw, but I'm not sure. I would say 80% made hand, 20% draw. As far as his range, he could easily have a 6, or any pair 77 or higher.Pot: 205Turn - 9 Villain acts out of turn, assuming hero checked and goes to bet 100. Hero tells him that he hasn't acted yet, and then bets 100. Villain hems and haws and calls.He wasn't acting when he acted out of turn. He really thought I had checked. I know that he has no idea what I have at this point, but his range is also large as well. By betting when he was going to bet I show a lot of strength (even though this isn't the line I would take with a monster but he doesn't know that). This might help me narrow his range a bit.Pot: 405River - 10 Hero checks. Villain checks.Is it worth a value bet here?Comments on all streets welcome. -
I agree with all of this. Anyways, the hero in the hand shoved (horrible IMO) and the villain instacalled with 10Yes, I meant to mention the flop, it's a must bet.Anyways, I am serious about the river raise.Although I do suppose the 8s calls a raise?I mean, we bet the turn when we turned the flush, and he calls, and donks the 4th flush card on the river? For 80% of the pot...I dunno, I think it's strong, and I think he's hoping we don't check behind with a lower flush.Does 8sX call the turn often? I doubt it...If we do raise, it's an immediate fold on a reraise. Betting the flop really changes the dynamic of this hand though. 6 . Obviously a cooler, but I thought it was an interesting spot for the hero. He definitely should have bet the flop, which would have folded the villain. On the river I'm torn between raising and flat calling. I really don't think that the villain, unless he read the hero for a bluff would ever call the river raise by hero w/o the 10s, in which case he isn't calling, he's raising. So it seems like a zero play to raise the river. But I just can't wrap my head around just calling with such a powerful hand fearing one card. I think theoretically, against this villain, it may be correct to just call the river donk bet, but I'm still not certain on it.
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This situation came up in a home game I was playing at recently and I thought it was very interesting. I wasn't in the hand, so I don't necessarily agree with all the plays made in the hand, but the river brings a very interesting situation. The hero in this hand is a somewhat LAG player, but overall solid. Not sure if he's a winning player overall, but he definitely could be. The villain is a solid player who is mostly TAG but mixes it up from time to time. Both players are capable of bluffs, however, on this board it is rare to find either one of them bluffing for a large amount of money. I guess its possible though. .25/.50Hero - ~60Villain - ~757 handedone fold, Hero limps with A
5 , one fold, button limps, sb folds, villain checks in bbPot: 1.75Flop - K Q 4 Villain checks, Hero checks, Button checksPot: 1.75Turn - J Villain checks, Hero bets .75, Button calls, Villain callsPot: 4River - 9 Villain bets 3.25, Hero raises to 9.50, Button folds, Villain raises to 25, Hero??? Do you just flat call here? If you raise what hands will call you that you beat? -
So what? You don't want to get paid off by 23s. You want to get paid off by three 10s or AK or some idiot who slowplayed AA. You shouldn't be concerned about winning an extra few bucks from crap hands, you should think about how to get all the chips in the center and that won't happen with those crap hands anyways. Its unlikely that you're going to get paid unless he's either a donkey or he's got one of the hands I mentioned before, so why not set it up so you get paid off in those situations?he could have a hand like 23 suited and fold to my flop bet of .10. -
Would you bet if you raised with 78s on that flop? What about AK? What about AQ? If you answered yes to any of these questions you need to bet the flop.why? flopping the second nuts against donks at a .05/.10?i disagree with you here, and want him to catch up a little bit. -
Also, just because HE has a big stack he isn't correct to call and chase with ATC because YOU don't have a big stack. Unless you and your opponent are both deep (i.e implied odds) then the whole idea of "big stack" is irrelevant really. Its more of a tournament strategy than anything else. People are so afraid of big stacks who are loose. I don't get it. I love it. Just some minor strategy adjustments and they become my ATM.Thanks for all the input....Villian actually turned another 6 on me.So I guess in a way I saved a little money. For sure if I bet the turn he re-raises me and I'm put in a tuff spot to call or fold. If I call I'm forced to call the river depending on his bet. If he smooth calls and bets into me I'm forced into the same thing. I definitly don't shove here being it was a bb call.I probably should have bet the turn and see how things unfolded. Since this is a BB call from a deeper stack I definitley don't want to overplay my hand since it's a different situation when you get a call from someone in middle/late position. He could have bet on the river with A10, k10, J10 or whatever. That is the reason for me wanting to raise a little higher pre-flop for a player who is deep stack like this. My reasoning behind this is if Hero has a big hand and Villian can flop a monster he can stack me if I overplay my hand and if he doesn't hit he can easily fold without much damage. Now granted I'm giving lag player credit for knowing how to play with his deep stack so maybe I'm giving him too much credit and the bigger raise makes no difference since I obviously would like one caller with AA and I carry a good post flop game. WIth a wider calling range with the purpose of being able to stack someone by hitting a monster. Maybe I"m wrong in thinking this way with this particular situation. But the way I played I feel there's no real needed to over play it. They are just Aces. -
1) It depends on the villain. You mentioned that he's loose, but if he's LAG I would probably shove against a check raise. If he's more passive though then, depending on the size of the raise you may want to slow down and perhaps think about letting it go. 2) Call.Okay 2 scenarios if I continuation bet the turn1) your play on a check raise by villian??2) a smooth call on the turn and bet into you on the river?? -
Preflop is fine. Flop is fine. You really need to bet the turn. Too many draws and there's no reason to be scared of the 6. As played, call the river.
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I've seen this live as well. Basically the villain isn't thinking of their raise in relation to the pot size but in relation to the size of your bet. Say you bet 10 into a 100 pot, to an idiot they might think that a pot sized raise is too huge, so they raise something like 30. Its rare to find someone this stupid in a live format, but it happens.I've seen this on numerous occasions with online players. They use the convient "Raise" button to raise whatever the opponent bets. However, if checked to, they will actually enter some reasonable amount into the bet window. I can't explain why (other than the magic min-raise button), but it does happen. -
Pretty standard. If you're against a calling station and you have the nuts then absolutely cannot slowplay unless you are 100% sure they will not call you now, but may call you later. You have no reason to believe that at this point, so you have to call the flop and then raise the turn, just like you did. It just sucks that this was one of the times he didn't have anything. It happens.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero ($10.56)Button ($11.50)SB ($5)BB ($2.40)UTG ($10.03)MP ($9.11)Preflop: Hero is CO with K
, Q. UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05, UTG calls $0.05.Flop: ($0.42) A, 3, 6
(4 players)BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, BB folds, UTG folds.Turn: ($0.62) J(2 players)MP bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.5, MP folds.Final Pot: $0.72MP was a donk. Habitual hero caller (example: gets raised big on the river by some guy who is sick of his LAGy style and the donk calls /w J-3 on a board of 10-10-Q-7-7). Makes random min bets, no possible way of telling when he's on a min-bet bluff or min-value-bet. I played a double-up pot against him earlier, here's the HH for that just to show you how donkish he was - PokerStars Game #12139407499: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2007/09/18 - 23:00:01 (ET)Table 'Nekkar II' 6-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: gfdsa146 ($1.14 in chips) Seat 2: ronstorm ($12.66 in chips) Seat 5: damey503 ($9.42 in chips) Seat 6: gracey47 ($8.46 in chips) gfdsa146: posts small blind $0.02ronstorm: posts big blind $0.05*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gfdsa146 [6s 5s]damey503: folds gracey47: raises $0.05 to $0.10gfdsa146: calls $0.08ronstorm: calls $0.05*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 6d]gfdsa146: checks ronstorm: checks gracey47: bets $0.15gfdsa146: raises $0.30 to $0.45ronstorm: folds gracey47: calls $0.30*** TURN *** [6c 7c 6d] [5d]gfdsa146: checks LaydeeJane joins the table at seat #3 gracey47: checks *** RIVER *** [6c 7c 6d 5d] [4d]gfdsa146: bets $0.59 and is all-ingracey47: calls $0.59*** SHOW DOWN ***gfdsa146: shows [6s 5s] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)gracey47: mucks hand gfdsa146 collected $2.28 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $2.38 | Rake $0.10 Board [6c 7c 6d 5d 4d]Seat 1: gfdsa146 (small blind) showed [6s 5s] and won ($2.28) with a full house, Sixes full of FivesSeat 2: ronstorm (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 5: damey503 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: gracey47 (button) mucked [3c Ac]Was i supposed to raise him? Did i raise too much? Maybe i shoulda checked and let another one pop off - its not like i could get outdrawn unless he's got 2pair or a set. If a 4th heart peels off on the river, maybe it would give him a reason to call a big bet because of some random heart he has in his hand? -
This is absolutely true. You need to decide on the flop what kind of hands you want to pay you off. Ideally you want the LAG to have a 5 so you can get his stack (if he's the type that would pay you off like that). Give him a chance to get the money in with a 5. If you check the flop and then raise the small turn bet you give him a chance to realize that you're slowplaying a big hand and he might go into check call mode with his three 5s (unless he's an idiot, in which case it probably doesn't matter what you do, the money's going in). How would you play the hand if you just had ak? That's the hand he wants you to have if he has three 5s and that's what you should represent while you think of how you're going to spend his money. If he doesn't have three 5's you're probably not getting that much money anyways. When I play nlhe and I flop a big hand I'm not looking to squeeze a little bit out of the weak hands that I'm against, I'm looking to stack the big, 2nd best hands that could be out there. You will take down more pots unopposed, but I believe that you will win more in the long term if you have that mindset.This is obviously a split topic. I'm just saying that, in my opinion, you're either getting money or not, and the flop is the time to find out which it will be.
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