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Also, if Villain turns up with like AA/KK here, I don't really *hate* it. Its hard to tell what table dynamics and game flow is like in these situations. I would be fine 3-bet calling OOP against someone that I felt was 4-bet bluffing me if I had a big hand. As for hero, I don't see the point in betting this flop. If he has you beat, he's never folding. If you have him beat, he's rarely betting (unless he's an aggrotard, but then you're inducing a bluff instead of value towning yourself)By the way, when I read the title I had a witty retort, and I was going to not say it, but after reading it, it still applies - post flop mistakes are tiny (Unless you're just spewing full stacks preflop for no reason) - tiny mistakes are magnified post flop. Good post flop play will take you much farther than good preflop play.That's not true. OP ran a cheap 4bet bluff. PF is fine imo. -
Without any reads, I would struggle to find a hand that I feel we're getting 3 streets of value from (that we're actually, you know, ahead of). My standard, admittedly nitty line, is to check the turn, and then get an additional street of value on the river. (also, I'm smart enough to hit my jack on the river and avoid crappy spots like this)I don't completely hate the fold. Donks usually wake up on the turn, and one of the straight draws got there. However, it is 10NL, and I don't think I could beat 10NL because I'd never be folding a pair, let alone an overpair, to anyone there.One weird thing is he thought out the $8 bet? Instead of just shoving? That's a little weird. Good fold.edit: One question: Was the preflop 3-bet manual sizing or pot button? Given the fact that you're OOP, there are 2 players, and its 10nl (I hate to keep saying that, but the truth is, more people are going to call your pfrs at 10NL, so you might as well make them larger with your strong hands, since you will never be exploited), I would probably make it a little bigger (that's what she said). If it IS the pot button, I'd press pot and then go up 2 clicks. If its not the pot button, pot it +2 clicks.
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Nice adjustment on the AQ v KQ hand, Cobalt. It was eerily similar to a hand we played (same positions and everything) last week, where you ended up with 2nd pair and I had top pair. I knew I should have folded the river, but I'm a donk and just went with my standard line. I got you back later, though.
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I understand nothing about poker, so any advice is welcomed.That had nothing to do with what I was saying, though.I was saying that in rush poker, people spaz out to smaller raises on a much larger scale than at just a normal ring game. I'd like to hear more about ranges and post-flop edge, though.I hope you realize this isn't isolated just to Rush poker... but if you have a post-flop edge on a player you should almost never be trying to get giant raises in preflop. The other thing with 3betting and 4betting smaller is that you can open your range more effectively... when you're mashing the pot button 4betting with AQ doesn't sound too hot -
Yea, this is an interesting side effect. There's obviously a lot of bad play at normal 50, 100 and 200NL. But, for some unknown reason, in rush people do completely insane things. I think, perhaps, the quick pace of the game intensifies the tilt factor for some players. It's moving so fast that you don't realize that you are losing your mind. Example: I hit a set over set against a reg. Over the next 5 minutes he 3-bet jammed over my normal opens with QTos, 98s, and 47os. I have like 5000 hands on the guy and have never seen him tilt before. Also see a lot more really insane bluffing. Maybe it has to do with the increased pot sizes due to the extra 3-betting, but I've seen a ton of pots where a player puts in like 75% of their stack and then folds with card(s) to come.As for the dynamic - yea, its interesting. I don't know how it will translate to non-rush. I've always been bad at the 3-betting aspect of poker, its my biggest leak. I'm hoping Rush has improved that aspect of my game. I'm certainly getting a ton of practice. Also helping is now that *I'M* 3-betting more, and seeing more lines taken against that, it's given me some insight into what people are thinking when they 3-bet me and I call or raise them. One thing I'll add, and I think this really helps get extra action - if you raise smaller, 3-bet smaller, and 4-bet smaller than your average reg (ie, don't press pot or go bigger than pot, unless the situation calls for it) people always think you're bluffing. Example, my 3-bets are always to just 9bb, given 100bb stacks. And my 4-bets are usually to around 20ish bbs (if its heads up and the 3-bet wasn't huge. If they 3-bet to like 12bbs, then i have to make it bigger, otherwise they are getting insane odds to crush my soul). People see the smaller bet size and think 'omg, room to bluff!', and then just start shoving.Only problem is when you go like 3 days in a row where you're running into the top of everyone's range and you have like AQ/AJ/JJ, and you get a nice, red ass from the beating.Something else that I've noticed about Rush is that sometimes shorter stacks will just open-shove for 18bb or more...and it's almost always a junky ace or king. Like, I noticed a guy open-shoved for 35bb UTG (6-max) the other day. It folded to me with AJs on the button. I didn't quite snap-call him per se, but I was pretty comfortable making that call. He had KQo. We chopped when the board came 99898.The 3-bet/4-bet dynamic that you're talking about has been pretty interesting. When I'm working on 100bb stacks, it has forced me to get a lot better at that aspect of the game. As I get deeper, I tend to revert back to seeing more flops.
I don't want to become too exploitable and give away the family secrets, but I'll say this - I would have folded AK pretty quickly in that spot. You're solid, you don't get out of line, and you're 3-betting my UTG raise from UTG+1. Your range is super narrow in that spot.The JJ guy brought an interesting dynamic to the hand. He seemed content with calling and never raising, if you had CCed my open and then he CCs, I wonder what happens on a 775 board with him in there. I guess, however, there's a chance that, at that point, we would have gotten squeezed by someone later in the hand, don't remember that specific table at the moment.Also, his cold call makes it hard to not widen my 4-betting range just a tad. I mean, its a gross spot to 4-bet squeeze as a bluff, but I've seen stranger things in rush. It's definitely a gross spot just given the fact that you and I are two of the less laggy preflop players.Further on that KK < AA hand...when you 4-bet me, I really wasn't happy and kicked myself for 3-betting. Like, a small part of me definitely wanted to fold. Debating if it's possible. It definitely isn't an easy thing. Think you might've played AK or QQ like that? -
Yea, that was me. That was really well played by the JJ guy. UTG opens, UTG+1 3bets, he CCs in MP, UTG 4-bets, UTG+1 shoves, well, they both have AK, I'm a huge favourite!But, to your other part - the swongs in rush are the worst. You can be having a great session and in the last 15 minutes dump off 3 buy ins without even noticing. Or, you can do what I prefer to do, and start out stuck 10 buy ins, go into hyper tilt mode (which works surprisingly well in rush), and get it all back quickly. Definitely helps raise your pain threshold.small edit: I would say the swongs are mostly due to the fact that they could change Rush Poker ™ to 3-Bet Poker ™, and it would still be fairly accurate. I think its funny to see so many regs play so exploitably with their high 3-bet % AND their really poor 3-bet/4-bet sizing. Nothing better than opening for 2.5 or 3x otb and having some reg 3-bet to 12+bbs.I have "moved up" for the most part, yeah. =) I knew I recognized your name too, but I couldn't remember if it was just from playing Rush or elsewhere. I do recall noticing your stack and play being pretty tough/solid. Trying to remember if we've played any hands of note.I did get sort of kicked in the teeth yesterday afternoon...played like 3 hours and dumped 7.5 buyins with KK < AA, KK < QQ, AK < KK, QQ < KK, AA < AA, KK < 97o, and flop trips < flop 7-high no draws. Also had to make some sort of ridiculous laydowns with overpairs. Oh...actually, now that I'm thinking about it...was that KK < AA against you? (A third guy couldn't get away from JJ in the easiest spot ever.)That said, I made a good bit back last night. -
So that IS you playing rush. Saw the name a lot lately (but now at 100NL, so I guess you've moved up?), was wondering if it was you. You're not all that much fun to play against, but its somewhat offset by the whole 'reset dynamics after each hand' set up. As for Iron Man - yea, Rush, especially if you can play during rush happy hour, is really a great way to keep your status. If its a day where I'm not really in to playing or the tables aren't good, 30mins during happy hour for the 200 points, and then save my heavy grinding days for when I'm focused.14th month in a row of Iron level, holding out hope that they come through with their promise to upgrade the Iron Man program.Going for my second month of Iron Man. Four-table 50NL Rush for 45 minutes per day. Rinse. Repeat. -
that was pretty awesome. He looked good, too. Maybe Sid and Flower can trade positions for a game next year, let MAF get beat up for an hour while Sid lets in softies... ;D
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okay, so full disclosure, I had never heard of this eklund guy until draft day when i was using twitter to follow FA, and someone mentioned him and at that point I followed him because I knew nothing about him. Then I noticed a lot of anger on the intergoogle towards him so I started looking into it. How is this guy popular? He's a liar and a hack... He steals from people. I'm pretty sure he's touched someone (maybe only himself) in the no-no spot), shouldn't he be in jail?I only bring this up because of the tanguay stuff, now he's going to detroit, e(something) just kind of sad. Feel bad for the people that give him money (but only marginally since they are clearly braindead)
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seems like a lot of people agree with Bob Clarke... more dumb people roaming the streets than I ever imagined...http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=668903
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sorry, was Talbot's recovery time 3-4 months, so only 1-2 of the season? Too many numbers in my head:)
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who do you have on the 2nd line for the first 3-4 months of the season, Kennedy?
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Is this thread one big giant level?Just shove river.
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Petr Sykora isn't coming back to the Penguins. He says coach Dan Bylsma -- a former teammate -- is jealous of him, so he's been treated badly. "When the coach does not want Sykora, nothing can be done," he told AHA Daily, translated by LetsGoPens.com. Sykora said when he and Bylsma were teammates, Bylsma "drifted around" as a fourth-liner, while he, a younger player, was on the top line. "Now the roles got reversed, and from the first moment I had a feeling that he let me 'eat it.' "
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good stuff from Havlat...http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=284740
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Also, was this a firing or a neutering? What i heard then read last night at like midnight was Tallon was fired, now I'm reading that he's just be kind of stripped of all of his power, but will still get a pay check. I'm not saying that its that much better, its still weird timing and rather unceremonious (and the Blackhawks are saying that the RFA thingy was a major contributing factor in his firing/reassignment), but atleast he'll still be gettin paid!
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Well, if it is a 'bringing in their own guy' situation, it seems like the timing is really bad. Why not do it after the season ends, instead of after the draft, FA, etc... and then after the old GM makes a pretty embarassing mistake. I'm sure it won't matter much in the greater scheme of things for the Blackhawks.
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cant believe Tallon got fired over the RFA thing... bit harsh.
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Wait, there's still a buzz? Wilson and Burke didn't do their, 'listen, we want to win, but the team is going to suck, okay?' bit this off-season? That was perhaps the best thing ever last year. It was so good the Blue Jays copied it. And if the Hedo signing doesn't work, an outgoing Brian Colangelo might use it, too.I know its only July but there is a certain buzz in the air..There are more and more people in the city that are excited about hockey again. Less of the cynical fans and a lot of people coming back to the bandwagon.I think if we can convince Arp to come back we would of succeded...Sept 16 Coke Zero FREE game vs Boston Bruins.cant wait till September. -
What they need to do is have Jason Blake get amnesian, think its 2006 for the first half of the season so that Burkie can trade him and get something legitimate, and then somehow move that awesome Jeff Finger contract. I wouldn't move Kaberle, either, because in 2 years, when you have the team you want, you're going to be saying, 'gosh, I wish we had Tomas Kaberle'. Although I think his contract is up in 2 years, so maybe they can trade him, but Burkie can give him a non-tampering wink wink nudge nugdge, 'hey, comrade, come back in 2 years, sound good? okay!'Right, Mats? Thats how you help a team... ...I dont disagree...There is a misconception out there that the Leafs have no front line scorers and thats what the problem was. The Leafs finished in the top 10 in goals in the NHL. I love Kaberle and at his contract he is one of the best dman in the league.Another signing Niklas Wallin signs a one year deal.
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I had never heard the Hossa song before... :DThe new starbuck's drink, the Hossa? It comes without a cup?zomg lawl.
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Good point. It would be interesting to see what Crosby would get from the leafs or habs in an uncapped world.No because there would be no way we could have outbid any major market team. -
sigh, i know that. I guess my wording is wrong. Anyone can look good with those people on their roster. He has looked good doing the little things to improve his team and keep them competitive. Just putting those players on the ice won't win you a round, let alone the Cup. I should have been more verbose.Agreed...mostly. He didn't draft Sid, Geno, or Flower. -
After calling for his head 2 weeks ago (Just kidding), I have to say, I'm really really impressed with the work Shero has done over the past couple of seasons. Yeah, yea, anyone could have drafted Sid, Geno, Staalsy and Flower, but his work with contracts, getting key pieces to sign contracts under market value to be a part of a winner, etc... is all really nice to watch. A lot of GMs that just won the cup might go out and sign a winger to a 7.5 million dollar contract in the hopes of continuing the winning ways, but in the end, that move could come back to bite them if that player were to put up 0 goals in 7 SCF games. I'm not saying this has ever happened, just saying it could, in theory, happen to some unfortunate team. Shero, on the other hand, has kept the core of a good team together, and has done it with 1 year deals so that they aren't killed next off season if the cap drops 10 million. I realize this could go in the Pens thread, but this is in response to Shero signing McKee for 800k and finishing his work this off-season.
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