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LOL sorry man =/I read this and decided to play a 4 hour 6-7tabling session today.-150BB.Thanks.Jerk. -
if it hits lower stakes limit players harder, especially in short handed, would it make more sense to play NL then assuming you're a winning player?There is no standard.There is an average though, and it's almost exactly equal to how much you lose in rake.Rake usually hits each player a bit harder short handed small stakes games; closer to 3BB/100 (dont know the exact figure because my database is also on my laptop).So you could say that the average player at 3/6 short handed is a -3BB/100 loser. -
send me the file pleasebut what's the "standard" winrate for short handed players?You cant say that your winrate "should" be anything.An average players winrate is roughly -2BB/100 at 3/6, because that's how much rake accounts for typically.3k hands is nothing for full ring. At short handed, it's even less significant.You can never "know" your true winrate, even if you assume that all conditions that contribute to what you win are static. You can only know with varying degrees of certainty how close your sample winrate is to your true winrate - but it will NEVER be spot on.Typical standard deviations for full ring (if im not mistaken) is 14. Typical standard deviations for short handed is likely around 18, though it could vary a lot. The standard deviation is (correct me if my definition isnt spot on) as follows,if you take a best fit line to your graph, you check the distance between that line and the actual position of your outcomes for predetermined intervals. You square the figure (to erase the negatives). Then you take the square root. The intervals used in PT is sets of 100 hands. The average of all these terms will be your standard deviation, and it will be phrased in terms of BB/100 in pokertracker. You dont actually have to do any of the calculations yourself.In my past 50k hands of full ring, ive been winning about 2.6BB/100. My standard deviation is 14.1. If i plug the numbers in (im just estimating here, i dont have my excel sheet handy), i could say with 95% certainty that my true winrate is between 1.8BB/100 and 3.4BB/100. If i was to only have played 20k hands, for the same level of certainty (95%), the range of possible winrates would be wider. For 3k hands at full ring, at 95% confidence, you could probably only say that your true winrate is somewhere between (-5BB/100) and +7BB/100. Of course, that's a wide range - the 3k hands tell you almost nothing. For short handed, that range would be even wider still.When i said that a player at 5/10 can be making $100/hour, i didnt mean playing 1 table. A very good and effective 2/4 player playing 8 tables with full benefits can make more than $100/hour too. It all depends on how much you win, what benefits you receive and how many tables you play. But for someone who is beating a 5/10 for a good amount, $100/hour is really easy. 4 tabling at WPEX for 2BB/100 is $120/hour with 100% rakeback.Ive made an excel spreadsheet that does all the above calclulations. It's on my laptop, and my laptop is temporarily out of service - but as soon as i get the files from it, i can send it to anyone interested. -
I'm thinking about playing at eitherbetholdempoker - $300 bonusnoblepoker -$300 bonusorpoker ocean -$400 bonusanyone played/cleared bonuses @ these sites?I'm a 3/6 shorthanded LHE player so it's kind of important that limit hold'em traffic is good :)I'll play 1/2 NL but I'd rather not, heh
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awww i liked fulltilti played the .50/1 nl to clear out the bonus. The game was pretty damn soft :oYou like ub though? I played some 1/2NL there and found the games to be really tight passive =/
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so even for short handed, 2bb/100 is a good rate?
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200k?!?! 10k hands per limit isn't enough?
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for short handed limit, what should my winrate be?PokerTracker shows me to be 1.95bb/100 at 3/6 SHE after 3.3k hands. Although thanks to poker room, PT missed out on a few winning sessions so it's probably 2.5ish$673 profit after 16 hours which gives me an average of $42 an hourso that's 7bbs per houranyways, I've just confused myself majorly with numbers.So what should my bb/100 be, and bbs per hour? I saw abbaddabaababadabababa posted that at 5/10 6max a player can easily make $100 per hour.This true?
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how aboutOmarcoMarc
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1) wish I could see everyone's hole cards2) if not 1, wish I could see what the flop, turn, and river would be :D3) if genie is a jerk and wont' give me #1 or #2, I'd like to take down a wsop main event please
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no idea, u're a favorite, raise itcan we make a case for simply calling on flop to get BB in the action?PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is Button with K , Q 
. 2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, CO calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) 6 , 9 , Q 
(3 players)BB checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB folds, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls.Turn: (7.25 BB) J (2 players)CO bets, Hero calls.River: (9.25 BB) 2 (2 players)CO bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 11.25 BBSo, why did I wuss out on the turn? -
i raise and then call downhis play says flush but...at shorthanded, you'll be surprised at some of the hands ppl have.Someone tried to play a 10,9 like an Ace when I had KK, board was QQxAA so I called his river bet and ya, shorthanded has weird illogical playsPokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is Button with K , K . UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.Flop: (7 SB) Q , 3 , 3 (3 players)SB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, SB calls.Turn: (5.50 BB) 5 (2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.River: (7.50 BB) T (2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 9.50 BBI seem to have developped a fear of everything.Anyone raise this turn, or am I ok?
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that's how I'd play it
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nope, but there's also a chance for smaller pp or jack w/bad kicker folding.well you can use the cap to see a free turn card (hopefully), play it how you like.You think he 3-bets air? -
it's the rabbit from Donny Darko - grrrrrrreat movie. See the original, not the director's cutsort of off topic but what is your avatar of? -
there's always bad players at the low limits!are you multi tabling man? and most importantly, are you PAYING ATTENTION?! When I'm not doddling and browsing, and instead focusing on my tables, i'm always constantly writing down notes, figuring out betting patterns, and analyzing how the person played his hand - optimally, poorly, creatively.When doing that, I constantly notice who's worse than me.When moving up, try not to let the money get to you. Losing $200 at 1/2 isn't the same as losing $200 at 3/6 (100 big bets vs 33.33 big bets) Looking at it in bets rather than $$$ helps, also, don't be afraid to make plays once in awhile and going with your gut, and don't get stuck being a passive caller. Give action and take action
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I like it all, easy 3bet/call riverBodog 4/8 LHE (4-handed)Cobalt is BB w/ Q T . Only been at the table two rounds, so no significant reads.Pre-flop:CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Cobalt checksFlop (3 SB): 2 K J (3 players)SB bets, Cobalt raises, CO calls, SB callsTurn (4.5 BB): 7 (3 players)SB checks, Cobalt bets, CO calls, 1 foldRiver (6.5 BB): 6 (2 players)Cobalt bets, CO raises, Cobalt ?We cool with the flop raise? And, this is an easy 3-bet/call on the river, right? -
I raise it, and if he 3 bets, I cap, if he checks the turn, I attackPokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 , 6 . 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 8 , 8 , J (3 players)SB checks, BB bets, Hero ...Villain just sat down.What is my plan? -
first of all, I would definitely pick up Sklansky's Small Stakes Hold'em and after that his Advanced Hold'em book - it's what I read and I'm doing well 4 tabling 3/6 SHE online.in a full ring game, I definitely toss 7s if i'm in early position. They're just too vulnerable. If anyone calls, besides the BBs, they have position on you, if anyone raises, your 7s don't look too great anymore and you're pretty much going to throw them away on the flop if u don't hit a set.Multiway, yes, if there are several limpers, I'm going to limp as well because if I hit my set, there's a greater chance of getting paid off.Remember, limit hold'em is such a position game. That's why early positions require stronger hands where as later positions have looser requirements.In Matthew Hilgers book "Internet Texal Hold'em", Matt basically says that all pocket pairs below 77 should not be played in early position in a limit hold em full ring game.. He doesn't actually say it in words, but this is derived from his starting hand chart, it in other words means that there just isn't a circumstance in early position that 66 and lower should be played.My question to some limit players on this site is if this is something that you guys do?? for instance if you are UTG+3 and everyone calls before you, do you still just toss 66 or 55 or even lower for that matter?? and if yes, is the main reason for this just because the amount of people left to act behind you??Any input would be cool, flames are straight too cuz i know a lot of people feel better flaming, ****, its basically the reason i started reading the forum. -
So in a 6 man game, limit of course, you're in the CO and you find yourself w/QJ or low pocketpair like 55.UTG limps while MP folds, do you call here or is it better to raise to take aggression/give the impression that you may have a premium hand? I've always been wondering about making plays like this, would you do the same w/pocket 2s? part B -----pf - everyone folds except utgFlop K 7 3utg checks, you bet, he raises - insta fold, or 3 bet and bet turn (unless he bets) to try and make him fold?
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how trueA lot of times, this is a stone cold bluff, and he will fold to a raise, so raising has little value.- Zach
ah that is a nice way to look at itYou lose no value in just calling, in fact you would be happy if he checked and than called to pay you of on the river. This time he just decided to put his bet in before you could make him.
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Poker Room skinLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$64 playersConverterPre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with
:D Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: :) (6SB, 3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.Turn: (4BB, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.River: (6BB, 2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: 8BBuh...should I really give him credit for a flush or even like two pair here? This kind of stuff throws me off a lot of the time. Course I'm going to at least call but..i'm sorry, stuff like this really confuses me when someone decides to bet the river even though you've shown strength on all streets -
if you plan on playing very aggressively future hands, push all in. Otherwise if your style is consersative, call - if you hit A or J, check-raise all in.W/blinds this high, I'm pushing and using that image to take down more blinds.
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for hand #1 - I'd put him all in if he's laggy. He probably has pp, and there's the chance he thinks you're just trying to steal his blinds. AQ's a good hand against LAG players
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