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  1. You are btn with J10dd. $220 effective stacks. V is tricky Asian UTG+3. He raises to 12. 2 callers. You call and bb calls. Flop is Q95 rainbow. Checks to you. You bet 25. V calls. Turn 9. Check check. River K. V bets 50. What do you think?

  2. No question that Annie being involved would make it less likely that Daniel would play but just saying he isn't playing because of her is a little too simplistic.Daniel playing is more valuable to the Epic League than it is to Daniel. He doesn't need the extra TV exposure and who knows how they will use his likeness and image in promoting the League and their business. Remember when you play in a tournament like this you give the tourney a lot of rights in using your name, likeness and image.
    He doesn't need the extra tv exposure? I find that hard to believe. It's not like he is a mainstream celebrity. The majority of ppl in this world don't know of him. Daniel isn't tiger woods. And added exposure means potentially more money in his pocket. There is no such thing as "extra" tv exposure if you want to make big money. Ask JRB. I bet if you asked a million ppl how they know JRB, the majority will say from survivor. More exposure means more popular to the mainstream means a bigger potential to profit.
  3. Is Dutch Boyd's crew still around?
    Funny you should ask. My two friends played a borgata sPring open event and saw rob Boyd and Brett Jungblutt. I used to play with rob at the taj when he would slum it at the 1/2 nl games. Good guy. Ran some sick bluffs on me.
  4. I have not, but would love to know if they are paying the "pro's".
    Surprisingly not. Nick frangos was supposed to be the house pro, but they wouldn't offer him rakeback. They wouldn't even give him unlimited comps. Pretty sick if you ask me.
  5. I'm interested in finding out if anybody else on here has been frequenting the new poker room? It's been running sincethe winter and I'm curious to see what fcp'ers thought. I PersOnally love it. It's so close to my house and the room is usually jumping. Lots of good action. It's in Bensalem pa for those that don't know. Also, I'll be there tonight if anybody else is going.

  6. Hey everyone... long time reader, first time poster here! Iʼm hoping to get some advice/assistance from some of the more experienced players on the forum.Iʼm not a beginner at poker by any means, but Iʼd probably consider myself a “beginner” at online poker per se... or, at least in comparison to most of my opponents at the online tables! ;)I really just want be a better online player and possibly generate some $ in the process (as I think some of you are doing?)... I know we live in a day and age with limitless resources-- but I think thatʼs been a problem for me lol-- I donʼt know where I should be focusing my efforts!Iʼve looked at poker books, internet articles, forum posts... Iʼve even searched “how to become a successful online poker player” on YouTube! (*believe it or not, that youtube search was by far the most useful thing to date!)What do you guys (you guys that are consistently generated $ at online poker) think?I really appreciate any/all input on this matter.
    Deposit $50. Play 100NL. Lose. Deposit $50. Play 100NL. Run it up to $300. Play 1000NL. Lose. Deposit $600. Play 1000NL. Lose. Deposit $600. Play 1000NL. Run it up to $5500. Play 5K heads up sng with Viktor Blom. Lose. Deposit $50. Play 100PLO8. Lose. Deposit $50. Play $20 sngs. Lose. Deposit $50. Play MTTs. Lose. Take the points you earn and get yourself a hoodie and a t shirt. Job well done. Now you will have learned bankroll management.
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  7. tl;dr = nit it up.I've always scoffed at anyone who wanted to reduce variance in their game. "Wimps," I said. "Sissies," I called them. After all, if you're playing a winning game shouldn't you take any edge no matter how small every time it's offered provided you're properly bankrolled?I couldn't find one good reason to not take a small positive edge (or sometimes at best an estimated small positive edge). If you said you didn't take a certain edge because of bankroll, I'd respond, "Don't play if you're not properly bankrolled and can't handle the risk; show some discipline and play within your means." If you said you'd pass up on a small edge now for a bigger edge later, I'd say, "Later may never come; fish go bust and claim online poker is rigged practically every second of every day." "Get while the gettin's good," I'd say.And honestly, I still feel this way regarding these two reasons that people use in order to justify not taking every edge. But enough experience has finally taught me there is one well-justified reason to pass up on small edges in order to reduce variance and that is this: if doing so will keep you on your A-game longer.For example:If I just 3-bet a guy and got 4-bet and am thinking of jamming with king high (because he opened from a steal position, has a high 4-bet percentage, and a low call 5-bet percentage) I have to ask myself what my mental state will be like after I win or lose after jamming in this spot, and what my mental state will be like if I just let it go. In my own experience I've found that I'll feel pretty good if I jam and take down the pot, but not as good as an "on top of the world" high. "The amount I won was only about 20-25bb," I'll realize, and continue playing my game. But if I get called and lose 100bb I know my mental state will drop pretty low. "That was stupid," I'll chide myself, "I didn't need to do that." If I jam and win, that means I will have sucked out... and while it feels good to win 100bb, I still feel pretty sheepish and terrible getting my money in bad. Finally, if I just give it up and fold I find that my mental state is pretty close to where it was when it first started and not too far below the high I get from winning 20-25bb. So I lose a 3-bet, no big deal. I can handle it. I move on. And my A-game continues.This is how grinders I know play longer sessions. They forgo variance so they can cruise along on their A-game for extended periods of time.I'm great at quitting the moment I notice the slightest tinge of tilt. It's something I've practiced by reading Tommy Angelo and others and it's something I'm proud of. But because I've insisted on playing a high variance game and taking every edge I can see, I've had to quit after 10 minutes of 12-tabling. My high variance game has kept me from playing long sessions sometimes because I'll lose a small edge (for some reason the smallest edges are in the biggest pots) and feel my mental state drop and then I'll (rightly) quit playing.But if I consider that I could forgo a small edge and therefore keep my mental state up more often and play longer, I realize that I can make more money by passing up these small edges in big pots.You can look at 'reducing variance to keep you on your A-game longer' in a bigger picture sense as well: in terms of how you approach your poker career, not just each session.I've gone near half a million hands break-even. Although I've made a tidy profit playing online poker professionally now for 2 years, this is what a winning high variance game looks like: steep ascents up and loooooong break-even stretches. It got so bad that I had to take 2 months off from the game recently. Two months! Two months' salary lost... just to maintain my sanity. I tried to remember the 200 buy-in score I took in one month, but all I kept feeling was the crushing weight of four months of nothing. Combined with the 2 months off I took, I went 6 months as a professional poker player not making a penny in profit.My high-variance game led to long stretches of break-even which eventually led to burn-out.Wanting to get back in the game lately, I looked at the stats on some other winning professionals. A lot of guys I respected had a 10 to 15 buy-in difference from their best day to their worst day. I had a 30 buy-in difference. Their graphs were slow, steady inclines from lower left to upper right. Mine was steep climb up, plateau for a while, steep climb up, plateau for a while.I've chatted with a few of these guys. We agree on so much, except they would always say, "I'd wait for a better spot," or "You don't need to push such a small edge there." And I could never understand why. It was a hard lesson to learn, but I learned it.If poker can be summed up into two things as Haseeb "INTERNETPOKERS"Qureshi writes, then by my count...The two things about poker are:
    1. Your A-game is the eager and willful exploitation of the leaks in your opponent's game once you spot them.
    2. You should take steps to ensure you are on your A-game as long as possible.

    Wow. Just wow. You just blew my mind. I deeply thank you. I started reading it and was picturing every session I play wondering why I break even. Remembering staring in disbelief at the computer screen after a 4 hour 10 tabling session wondering how I blew 20 buy ins. Looking back on my slow decline into tilted ineptitude. It was almost as if you have been watching me play for the last 2 years. Everything you wrote is exactly what happens to me and know you have opened my eyes and you have shown me what now seems so painfully obvious.
  8. Are you referring only to the win/loss data or all his stats from playing?Because reviewing stats is vital to getting better.
    I wouldnt say vital. Reviewing stats can help speed up the learning curve immensely. But I wouldnt say you need to. In fact, I doubt you will find many winning players doing it at all. What I was referring to was that you can become obsessed with your stats. That can be a very dangerous thing. It can mess with your emotions and lead to poor play.
  9. Hello folks, newbie reporting for knowledge! :-)First of all, being a newbie, I apologize in advance if this isn't the correct forum to post in. That being said, here's my dilemma:I've played quite a bit of 2+0.25$ at Full Tilt Poker, and think I have enough played to draw a few conclusions about my game.The problem is that it's not quite obvious which ones to draw.Attached to this post is a graph showing my first 700 or so SNG's at the 2+0.25$ level.Can any of you smart guys say anything useful about it, or do I need to get more data?Thanks in advanceNathraxpost-57978-1299339690_thumb.jpg
    You are winning. Its a small sample but its pretty safe to say you can beat this level. Move up. Play at least 1000 sngs at the next level. If you find similar results then move up again. Only advice I can give you is not to get too into your data. It will mess with you. Just focus on playing your best game and everything will work out.
  10. I definitely agree with the idea of being aggressive in general pre-flop, but I think that there will be plenty of spots where limping behind will be correct as opposed to charging ourselves early on with hands that lack the equity edge to profit from raising. I'm all for going into a game with the game-plan of "This is 2/4 and I'm going to be aggro to put people in uncomfortable spots." I think that's a perfectly fine plan so long as you're willing to deviate from it when called for.
    Oh I def agree that there are situations that require straying. And its all feel as to when those situations occur. The flow of the game should help you dictate when to deviate. So basically, like in 99% of situations, there really isnt a definite answer. Thats why I love poker.
  11. I'd say you have this about the opposite of correct. If we're playing against very good players, we're going to want to keep an opaque range and limp in fewer spots than we would against poor players who won't take advantage of the information we present them by significantly narrowing our range. But even against good players, I'm limping here. You say that players make mistakes, so why not build a big pot preflop but the problem with your reasoning is that their most common mistake is calling to the flop/turn/river too often and that's going to be less of a mistake in a big pot than it would be in a small pot. Like, in an extreme example, imagine if you were playing $1/2 and there was $100,000 in the pot pre-flop. Any skill advantage is negligible because the correct play is always going to be to get to showdown. Your theory is like an exponentially lesser, but still effectively similar version. I'm unsure why you think building a bigger pot gives us a bigger advantage versus passive, showdown-bound opponents, but it's simply incorrect. With a hand like 67s and opponents who will play predictably, see a flop cheap, draw with correct odds, and figure out the way to make the most money when you make your hand. In this spot, it's to c/r the field on the flop.I'm sorry if that sounds overly harsh. I hope we can still be friends. I like your sig/av combination; I remember lol'ing when I saw it on TV.
    Your post is in no way harsh. I see your point. It makes sense in theory. I would play this way everywhere but in a 2/4 game. The overly aggressive approach accomplishes many things. You are putting 2/4 players in an uncomfortable spot. They are used to a glorified home game. Nobody folds, nobody is cutthroat. Everybody has a good time. You can disrupt that and control the game for your benefit. Players will go with your flow or they will leave the game. Building big pots preflop lets you take control of the game by getting players out of their comfort zone. Also, while you are giving players correct odds to draw more often, you are also giving yourself correct odds to draw more often. Not always will you be flopping trips with 76. Much more often you are flopping draws or one pair hands. You will almost always be correct to continue with your hand because of the big pot you built. Not to mention you will be earning more free cards as players will be afraid of you raising them. Basically, my advice was incorrect based on one hand. But for the session as a whole, it would continue a strategy that you are fulfilling. I should have clarified in my op. I may be wrong, but I have been pretty successful with it.
  12. I think that limping behind here is much more profitable than raising.
    I would agree if this wasnt 2/4 where you will routinely see 8 players see a flop, 6 see a turn and 4 or 5 go to showdown. Why wouldnt you want to build bigger pots against players you know will make numerous mistakes? Ive played a lot of 2/4 live. I have found that playing a very aggressive pre flop strategy is very profitable. If Im playing a hand Im raising or reraising. You build monster pots when you hit. Also, if you flop draws or marginal hands you can control the hand as you have taken the lead and most players will just go with your flow. And if you miss completely you pass. It is a highly exploitable strategy against real players. But we arent playing real players. We are playing casual players, mindless drones, and blue hairs playing with their social security.
  13. At a casino in a $2/$4 LHE game. Game is what you would expect for live low limit hold'em, all players are pretty weak and pretty loose.Hand in question involves Villain OTB, who has been playing a decent number of hands, but almost never raised pre-flop. The only times I can remember Villain raising pre-flop so far was when he had Aces and another time Kings. He's a decent player compared to the others, but that's not saying much since mostly the table was filled with terrible calling station-type players.I'm dealt :5c:4h Three callers to me in HiJack position, I call, Villain (OTB) raises, BB calls, Three previous callers all call, I call.FLOP: :3h:club::ts Action checks around to me. Assuming I'm putting Villain on a big pair who will likely bet this flop if checked to (but I don't know how he'll react if I bet), how do I best proceed from here? Bet/raise flop? Check/raise flop? Check/call flop, look to check/raise turn?
    You should be raising preflop when entering hands in live 2/4 lhe. The players are so bad they cant fold and when you hit hands you will build huge pots. As played bet and raise flop. Bet and raise turn. If reraised on turn call down.
  14. Well dead money, you obviously don't read very well, I was not complaining rather just inquiring. If you would have played this hand any differntly please let me know what I have done wrong so I can improve my play. My question was, is this normal and to be expected while playing online? If it is, then that requires my game to change to accomidate that varience. If you are just a bitter know nothing that needs a shower but can't becuase your mother locked the cellar door from the outside... then please, just sit in your own stink and type away.
    1. I read fine. 2. Dont change your game. Play higher. That should help. You will get outplayed often. You will feel better about losing based on your statements.3. Im not bitter. I have a pleasant disposition. People like me. Seven Helens agree. Its a fact.4. I shower daily. If you would like proof, feel free to come over and smell me. I also use women's deodorant. I highly recommend it. 5. I dont have a cellar. Nor do I understand why my Mother would come over to my house to lock said cellar door. My kids might lock me out of the house, but thats about it. 6. You are terrible at this. Please continue though. Dont stop. I rather enjoy it. 7. I can promise you that winning players when they first started playing, never made threads like this. Sit back and think about why. You might learn something about yourself. 8. I hope this helped.9. Im just trying to get to 10 now. I ran out of valid statements at point 5. Im just rambling my way to the arbitrary number 10.10. YAY!!! I made it. What an accomplishment. I shall celebrate by allowing my wife to fellate me while I watch the Food Network. I hope everyone enjoys their night as much as I will. Also, Bobby Flay is a genius. He should be on 24/7.
  15. What would Phil Ivey do?
    Phil Ivey would wonder why he is playing 2/3 NL. Then he would wonder why some jives ass turkeys were dissing him. Then he would go Samuel L. Jackson on them. Then he would make a $2 mill prop bet with Tom Dwan just because he can.
  16. So as a light to moderate player on line with significant live play including dealing WSOP main event qualifiers I just need to ask... is it normal in online to be sucked out on badly rather than being out played as your normal outcome?As a latest example... (super turbo multi table tourney) I have KK as the first the act, raise to three times BB, CO calls and BB calls, flop comes x,8,J rainbow. BB Check I raise all-in, CO folds, BB (twice my stack) calls. I show KK, BB shows 8,9off Turn come 7, river 10 for the straight.So this is how I generally get beat on line. Very rarely out played, is this normal on line or is it just me? While these things do obviously happen in live play, and I have delt some rather ugly beats, it seams that this is way above the possible odds for these things to happen this often to one player. Does this strike a cord with anyone or am I a unique case? If I'm not unque how do people become consistent winners online?Ugy
    Unfortunately you are not unique. You are just like all the other mindless dolts who play this game. You are a poor player who tries to justify losing by claiming you are an unlucky person or that online poker is out to get you. There are millions of you. Face it. You are average. Now if you also claim you would fold AA preflop on the first hand of the WSOP ME then you would be my favorite poster of all time. If I were you, I would quit the game now. Take up golf or something. Then you can complain that the grass is out to get you when you lip out putts. You could be just like Mark Whalberg in The Happening. Better yet, save some time and just lie down in front of lawn mower.
  17. I have doubts that guy said "FU" and then raises. That is straight out of a poker script.
    I do it all the time. It is very intimidating. Then I laugh when they fold and show my bluff. Then I pull out my junk and piss on the table. Nobody messes with you after that. I also do it away from poker. I was in line at Wawa recently. I was next and the cashier called me over. I put down my things and he rung them up and bagged them. He told me my total was $13.52. I said "FU" then I threw a $20 on the table. Before he could give me my change I grabbed my bag and smashed it on the floor. Then I knocked over a display and stared at him. I owned him after that. He was never the same.
  18. Thanks for the advice so far. I understand about being results oriented. That is probably a leak I have. I didnt pull 5 out of thin air though. I did a little research on some sites and found that 5bb/100 would be a reachable goal in the lower limits. My evidence may have been unfounded, but I didnt feel this would be unattainable. I could be very wrong. I should just drop this as I feel you are very right trystero. But I just wanted to elaborate. The 5bb/100 I was referring to was not the standard ptbb/100. I dont know if you all understood that or not but if that changes anything I would love to know. Alright, thats all I will say about that lol. I will def stay with Tilt since it seems pretty unanimous. I have been interested in Cake, but there just isnt enough volume. Im curious. Is 8 tables too many? I would love to do more but Im not sure what I can handle. Im guessing that 8 wouldnt overwhelm me. As I said, I can 20 table the 180 mans, but there arent a whole lot of tough decisions in those. Its all preflop. My thinking was that I could burn myself out trying too many tables. Are there cash players playing 10+ tables at the lower limits? Thanks again guys. I appreciate it.

  19. A little background:I got serious playing back in 2003 after I turned 21. I moved down near Atlantic City with 3 buddies and was able to survive for over a year playing 1/2 NL at the Taj. I was a stupid kid back then and made all the mistakes you shouldnt make. I went broke moved back home and got a job. I played online from then on out finding SNGs. I loved them and supplemented my income for the next couple of years. I found a girl. We got married. Had kids. And now Im where Im at. Ive been circling around poker broke for about 2 years now. I can honestly say I havent been as serious as I should be about the game. But at 28 now, I would love to have extra money for my family and this is a passion I feel I can do that with. I said I play sngs mostly and Im solid at the lower levels. My BR management is not good and it keeps me lower as I am pretty good at taking risky shots and failing. I have some experience in cash games, but that was years ago and the game has changed a lot so I feel I am behind the curve. I will have about $200 to play around with after my tax rebate comes and I would like some advice from the cash game regs here. I can multi table sngs well. I can play 20 tables of 180 man sngs with ease. I am mostly a FR cash game player. I want to switch to 6 man NL games. Its a big jump. Im not used to these games at all. I have a few questions on the switch. I want to multi table but dont know what a comfortable start would be. I was thinking 8 but I would love to know if that is unrealistic. With my paltry BR Im assuming I shouldnt trying anything higher than .02/.05. Plus this should help me adjust by moving up in limits. Im curious what a realistic winrate would be for a person multi tabling. Would be 5bb/100 be to high of a goal? Also, what site would be best for these cash games. Stars seems fishier than Tilt, but I would like to know of other sites if ppl have any opinions. Also, any other advice would be great. I appreciate the responses in advance. Thanks.

  20. ok i need some opinions on this hand thats been haunting me for the past week. I'm playing in a $120 multi table tourney (live) I'm sitting in the bb with 9800 chips which i might add is a little below average. blinds are 300/600 i get delt 6 8 diamonds. utg limps as does utg+1 and the sb calls. i decide to pop it to 1800 to weed out the weak limpers. utg calls as does the sb. the utg call didnt bother me due to the fact that he basically plays every hand. but the sm spooked me a little. flop is 5,6,5 rainbow. i bet out 3200 and utg shoves with a bigger stack. sb folds, this is where i go into the tank. i've invested 5k into the pot i have 4800 left. now i've been watching this guy play like a total maniac the whole tourney. shoving with 7 high with no draws, and open enders. i couldnt give him any respect for a hand. more so cause he limped then flat called my raise. i call off my remaining stack and he flips pocket jacks. i"m railed and he says thank you as i leave the table. now my question is this...could i have got away from this pot?
    So you raised to steal pf knowing utg never folds? I fold and throw my hand face up and tell him, "I can see into your soul sir. Not only do I know you are holding JJ, but I also know about what you do with your dog and that jar of peanut butter." If he doesnt get up and run crying then you did it wrong and should quit poker you noob. Thats how you intimidate an opponent.
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