Rs Hawk 0 Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 I appreciate everyone's insight. I'm not upset VT said I played it terribly, because in retrospect I know I played it horribly. However, when asking for insight on the hand, just saying that I played it terribly and the other players are better than me does nothing to help me improve my game.I know I am having a good run right now, and I understand variance and how it works, so I definitely want to learn from my mistakes and fix any leaks in my game. On that note, does everyone agree with VT's analysis of how he would have played the hand? (Thank you btw VT) Could an argument be made for betting the flop and shutting it down if called or raised? I know that was a popular answer earlier. Any other ways to approach this hand?P.S. to the poster who mentioned my lack of posts offering my advice about situations, I don't feel like my game is at a point to be giving anyone advice quite yet. I'm strictly a MTT player, and while I'm starting to see more and more success in my own game, I still have a lot of work to do, so that is why. It doesn't mean that I can't post hands and generate discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 P.S. to the poster who mentioned my lack of posts offering my advice about situations, I don't feel like my game is at a point to be giving anyone advice quite yet. I'm strictly a MTT player, and while I'm starting to see more and more success in my own game, I still have a lot of work to do, so that is why. It doesn't mean that I can't post hands and generate discussion.Post it in the tournament section, take out results and ask the best way to approach the hand Link to post Share on other sites
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troyomac 0 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 this is probably one of the worst played hands i've ever seen.edit: and WU_wizard and AKsharky are definitely better players than you.Full Tilt Poker Game #7400991736: $750,000 Guarantee (53755462), Table 306 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:26:40 ET - 2008/07/27Seat 1: whodeyX (4,055)Seat 2: hawaiianb3ar (2,555)Seat 3: vtlaxer09 (1,428)Seat 4: no not baxter (3,395)Seat 5: rysjulud (3,520)Seat 6: NYGuy1 (3,230)Seat 7: Rex55 (2,750)Seat 8: captainleighton (2,815)Seat 9: PurpleH (3,252)rysjulud posts the small blind of 20NYGuy1 posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to vtlaxer09 [Ac 4c]Rex55 foldscaptainleighton foldsPurpleH foldswhodeyX calls 40hawaiianb3ar foldsvtlaxer09 calls 40no not baxter calls 40rysjulud calls 20NYGuy1 checks*** FLOP *** [3s 6c Jc]rysjulud checksvtlaxer09: nice play sirrNYGuy1 has 15 seconds left to actNYGuy1 checkswhodeyX: tywhodeyX checksvtlaxer09 checkswhodeyX: sucks you had AK, great looking flop for youno not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter bets 120rysjulud foldsNYGuy1 foldswhodeyX foldsvtlaxer09 calls 120*** TURN *** [3s 6c Jc] [4d]vtlaxer09 checksno not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter checks*** RIVER *** [3s 6c Jc 4d] [Ah]vtlaxer09 bets 120no not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter raises to 480vtlaxer09 has 15 seconds left to actvtlaxer09 has requested TIMEvtlaxer09: OMGvtlaxer09 foldsUncalled bet of 360 returned to no not baxterno not baxter mucksno not baxter wins the pot (680)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 680 | Rake 0Board: [3s 6c Jc 4d Ah]Seat 1: whodeyX folded on the FlopSeat 2: hawaiianb3ar didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: vtlaxer09 folded on the RiverSeat 4: no not baxter (button) collected (680), muckedSeat 5: rysjulud (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: NYGuy1 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 7: Rex55 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: captainleighton didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: PurpleH didn't bet (folded) Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I appreciate everyone's insight. I'm not upset VT said I played it terribly, because in retrospect I know I played it horribly. However, when asking for insight on the hand, just saying that I played it terribly and the other players are better than me does nothing to help me improve my game.I know I am having a good run right now, and I understand variance and how it works, so I definitely want to learn from my mistakes and fix any leaks in my game. On that note, does everyone agree with VT's analysis of how he would have played the hand? (Thank you btw VT) Could an argument be made for betting the flop and shutting it down if called or raised? I know that was a popular answer earlier. Any other ways to approach this hand?P.S. to the poster who mentioned my lack of posts offering my advice about situations, I don't feel like my game is at a point to be giving anyone advice quite yet. I'm strictly a MTT player, and while I'm starting to see more and more success in my own game, I still have a lot of work to do, so that is why. It doesn't mean that I can't post hands and generate discussion.God, I hope Sheiky doesn't see this. Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Full Tilt Poker Game #7400991736: $750,000 Guarantee (53755462), Table 306 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:26:40 ET - 2008/07/27Seat 1: whodeyX (4,055)Seat 2: hawaiianb3ar (2,555)Seat 3: vtlaxer09 (1,428)Seat 4: no not baxter (3,395)Seat 5: rysjulud (3,520)Seat 6: NYGuy1 (3,230)Seat 7: Rex55 (2,750)Seat 8: captainleighton (2,815)Seat 9: PurpleH (3,252)rysjulud posts the small blind of 20NYGuy1 posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to vtlaxer09 [Ac 4c]Rex55 foldscaptainleighton foldsPurpleH foldswhodeyX calls 40hawaiianb3ar foldsvtlaxer09 calls 40no not baxter calls 40rysjulud calls 20NYGuy1 checks*** FLOP *** [3s 6c Jc]rysjulud checksvtlaxer09: nice play sirrNYGuy1 has 15 seconds left to actNYGuy1 checkswhodeyX: tywhodeyX checksvtlaxer09 checkswhodeyX: sucks you had AK, great looking flop for youno not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter bets 120rysjulud foldsNYGuy1 foldswhodeyX foldsvtlaxer09 calls 120*** TURN *** [3s 6c Jc] [4d]vtlaxer09 checksno not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter checks*** RIVER *** [3s 6c Jc 4d] [Ah]vtlaxer09 bets 120no not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter raises to 480vtlaxer09 has 15 seconds left to actvtlaxer09 has requested TIMEvtlaxer09: OMGvtlaxer09 foldsUncalled bet of 360 returned to no not baxterno not baxter mucksno not baxter wins the pot (680)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 680 | Rake 0Board: [3s 6c Jc 4d Ah]Seat 1: whodeyX folded on the FlopSeat 2: hawaiianb3ar didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: vtlaxer09 folded on the RiverSeat 4: no not baxter (button) collected (680), muckedSeat 5: rysjulud (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: NYGuy1 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 7: Rex55 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: captainleighton didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: PurpleH didn't bet (folded) Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Full Tilt Poker Game #7400991736: $750,000 Guarantee (53755462), Table 306 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:26:40 ET - 2008/07/27Seat 1: whodeyX (4,055)Seat 2: hawaiianb3ar (2,555)Seat 3: vtlaxer09 (1,428)Seat 4: no not baxter (3,395)Seat 5: rysjulud (3,520)Seat 6: NYGuy1 (3,230)Seat 7: Rex55 (2,750)Seat 8: captainleighton (2,815)Seat 9: PurpleH (3,252)rysjulud posts the small blind of 20NYGuy1 posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to vtlaxer09 [Ac 4c]Rex55 foldscaptainleighton foldsPurpleH foldswhodeyX calls 40hawaiianb3ar foldsvtlaxer09 calls 40no not baxter calls 40rysjulud calls 20NYGuy1 checks*** FLOP *** [3s 6c Jc]rysjulud checksvtlaxer09: nice play sirrNYGuy1 has 15 seconds left to actNYGuy1 checkswhodeyX: tywhodeyX checksvtlaxer09 checkswhodeyX: sucks you had AK, great looking flop for youno not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter bets 120rysjulud foldsNYGuy1 foldswhodeyX foldsvtlaxer09 calls 120*** TURN *** [3s 6c Jc] [4d]vtlaxer09 checksno not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter checks*** RIVER *** [3s 6c Jc 4d] [Ah]vtlaxer09 bets 120no not baxter has 15 seconds left to actno not baxter raises to 480vtlaxer09 has 15 seconds left to actvtlaxer09 has requested TIMEvtlaxer09: OMGvtlaxer09 foldsUncalled bet of 360 returned to no not baxterno not baxter mucksno not baxter wins the pot (680)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 680 | Rake 0Board: [3s 6c Jc 4d Ah]Seat 1: whodeyX folded on the FlopSeat 2: hawaiianb3ar didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: vtlaxer09 folded on the RiverSeat 4: no not baxter (button) collected (680), muckedSeat 5: rysjulud (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: NYGuy1 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 7: Rex55 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: captainleighton didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: PurpleH didn't bet (folded)orly Link to post Share on other sites
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KHSPoker21 0 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Lol, yeah my bad plays only managed 6.7k this week. Time to rethink strategy.Honestly, thats fine if you think I played it poorly. Ive never claimed to be a pro, nor do I think I made the right play by any means, but instead of coming on here and telling a fellow FCP'er how bad he is after he has a nice cash, maybe you could offer your expertise on the hand, since you must be so goodSo I'll be waiting...PS...where's your final table thread at tonight?O hai der doucheVT FT'ing $109 75K gtd on FTP atm gogogogogogogo!!!!...imo Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Lol, yeah my bad plays only managed 6.7k this week. Time to rethink strategy.Honestly, thats fine if you think I played it poorly. Ive never claimed to be a pro, nor do I think I made the right play by any means, but instead of coming on here and telling a fellow FCP'er how bad he is after he has a nice cash, maybe you could offer your expertise on the hand, since you must be so goodSo I'll be waiting...PS...where's your final table thread at tonight? sorry 1 day late. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=127392 Link to post Share on other sites
Rs Hawk 0 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 sorry 1 day late. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=127392 Yeah Yeah we all know how good you are I just made my 3rd big MTT final table this week so I can't complain Link to post Share on other sites
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