TheTorpedo
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Good point. shall we say "attempted confident bet"
i don't see how he made a confident bet while he was hyperventilating and sweating.
Of course and I knew that support would check it out. There is one place where I can see this happening besides a misclick. If the original raise was on a complete steal with total junk and the guy was to "embarrassed" to show his cards. That would be double Donkiness for trying to steal low blinds when there is a low stack and for being embarrassed. Still a donk but not a colluder...At a tourney at the palms had 99 in the hole flop came XTX turn was T the guy made a confident large bet representing he had a T but I had a tell on him (real easy hyperventilating and sweating) I smoothly reraised him all in with my 99 but very little more. He was so embarrassed to call it took him 2 minutes....could be a big leap to assume collusion...people do click the wrong button... -
My email to support was titled "possible collusion" they figured the rsst out$1 SNG hmmm... did I imply that or did you infer that oops big words. look it upI've been known to bluff at a pot and fold late in the hand with not many chips left and the pot being big... this does not constitute collusion... also who calls support on players in a 1$ sngo... jeez budd get a life -
NOWere any of there sn's casedogg123, DeeDubbz, kevmac123, ponyteters, zammy2 ?--Blink -
I was ravaging them in the chat may have put some tilt on themThey collude and still don't finish in the money. Pretty sad. -
Of course and I knew that support would check it out. There is one place where I can see this happening besides a misclick. If the original raise was on a complete steal with total junk and the guy was to "embarrassed" to show his cards. That would be double Donkiness for trying to steal low blinds when there is a low stack and for being embarrassed. Still a donk but not a colluder...At a tourney at the palms had 99 in the hole flop came XTX turn was T the guy made a confident large bet representing he had a T but I had a tell on him (real easy hyperventilating and sweating) I smoothly reraised him all in with my 99 but very little more. He was so embarrassed to call it took him 2 minutes....could be a big leap to assume collusion...people do click the wrong button... -
Been playing a lot more online now that I am out of Vegas. On a SNG on PS a guy folded an all in bet of 20 into a pot of 525 and he was the PF raiser. Anyway on the chat I told them that they are obviously collaborating and that I will notify support and their accounts frozen. All I did was send support the HH (below changed details). The guy had 270 to start so this was an obvious chip dumpingAnyway a week later PS support replies that I was correct and that they froze their account. Now we can all learn an important poker lesson if your going to cheat don't be a donkey folding to a 20 all in doh!NOW TO COMPLETE THE DONKINESS WE WERE 5 LEFT AND THEY BOTH FINISHED OUT OF THE MONEY (and guess who won)pokerStars Game #XXXXXXXXXX: Tournament #XXXXXXX, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/Table 'XXXXXXXX1' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: DONK1 (2240 in chips) Seat 4: INNOCENT1 (2605 in chips) Seat 6: DONK2 (270 in chips) Seat 8: INNOCENT2(2085 in chips) Seat 9: INNOCENT3 (1800 in chips) INNOCENT: posts small blind 25DONK2: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***...DONK1: raises 200 to 250INNOCENT3: folds DONK2: calls 200*** FLOP *** [9s 6h 7s]DONK2: bets 20 and is all-inDONK1: folds DONK2 collected 525 from potDONK2: doesn't show hand LETTER FROM PS SUPPORT:Hello TheTorpedo,Thank you for your patience regarding your report. I have completed the investigation on 'DONK1' and 'DONK2'.We have found these players to have been colluding, in both Tournament#XXXXXX and ring games they had played together. As a result, we have barred these players from our site. Please be assured we will compensate all parties affected by their actions. In your case, no compensation will be issued, as the players finished 4th and 5th (out of the money) in Tournament #XXXXXXXX, which you ended up winning.Thanks again for your patience and help. Please contact support if you have any more questions or require further assistance.Regards,xxxxxPokerStars Support Team
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I am on a 3 month assignment abroad in the middle east. So no ESPN for me (they have it here I don't have TV) any online resources to see the broadcasts?BTW this has forced me to play online poker exclusively (home is Vegas)and I'm killing it won 5 MTTs including a 10.5K and 6.5K payout (the term "won" includes more or less equal splits). I still have some of my online leaks (like lying in bed with my laptop and playing just to kill time or today missed a hand that would have tripled me in an SnG cause was doing other things) But improving on those.
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$1000 buy-in at the palms. QQ in the SB everyone folds I limp hoping something interesting happens or get away if need be, early in tourney raising and winning 1 blind not interesting. BB calls flop xx10 I make a nice bet and get called. Hm.... . Turn 10. Ouch have to keep betting lead make a bet he calls and I know im probably beat (solid guy wouldn't call less then top pair). River Q....I go all in projecting weakness though. He goes in tank and says you have QQ? then says I can't lay these down call has QT... doubled up and went on to win (4 way equal split)
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AKs beats 22 (differnt suits than AK) 50.1:49.9 small unimportant fact but true.So u want to know what players want to hold vs the literal odds? Fair enough. I get a kick out some players who will see AK up against a PP and jump for joy. I have to shake my head a little. Yes AK looks better, but "Any PP is a favorite over any AK". I do not like any KQ myself. I have not been in severe difficulties with that holding nor do I want to get in trouble. :wink: -
Thanks Akishore. It seems that pokeroffice also tracks live play giving stuff like pot odds, since I am not already used to either interface (PT/PO) that seems like a nice advantage. comments?so, you need two things:1. a program that gathers data, makes sense of it, and calculates a bunch of stats from it.2. a program that displays players' and tables' data in real-time as you play.poker tracker falls into category #1 only.so, if you get poker tracker, you need to get a program for #2. poker ace HUD (link off the pokertracker website) is probably the best software for that at the moment.next is gametime+ (link off the pokertracker website), but it's not as good as pokerace HUD despite having a *much* cleaner interface.altnerately, you can get poker office. it serves both #1 and #2 functions.both are good programs. i think most people (myself included) prefer poker tracker with poker ace HUD over poker office, but they're both solid pieces of software that essentially do the same thing.aseem -
So basically while the tourney is running you don't get "live" data (player X has been super loose/agressiive) rather post tourney with the summary yet get the picture, correct?and yes, poker tracker auto imports hand histories from most big sites, you don't have to do it manually.with tournaments on stars, you need poker ace HUD. gametime+ doesn't support stars tournaments.aseem -
Can I get PT to autotrack everything I do? (incl. multitabling). Any tricks to get going using PT on stars (filling up the DB with my tourney histories)THX
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I am starting to play much more online. Only tourneys and SNGs basically on stars. I downloaded poker tracker which seems like a cluttered interface so before I dive in is that the best SW reccomended and what other options and additional SW apps should I use. I have no problem paying the $20-$1o0 for each app. Does PT automatically follow all my play, keep track of the other players or do you have to keep inputing hand histories etc.BTW this week was good for me 4 final tables incl twice 1st (one of those 4 way split) and 1 11th placing.
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Curious to know what you mean?thought so. chump. -
Apologies, I had to leave my house since you're last response, I can't always be online on FCP, I hope you understand, I'm sure you have been in that situation before.You're request accepted I have not chickened out and I will fully pay you when you prove me wrong, I hope you don't chicken out...Still waiting...... :whistle: to use your wordsplease don't chicken out... -
The 3 of us were all in pre-flop at the final table we flip over our cards TT 66 66 (me), Now calculate the odds (try different overlapping suits) it is about 39:1 suit dependent (and the actual definition of pot equity). I got lucky and hit a T high straight (so he hit a set, not that it mattered). I still think I played it reasonably well. I reached the final table (Orleans) with massive chip lead, tight but aggressive with my stack, I never showed garbage. this guy was totally obnoxious (just busted AA flopped the nut flush and made such a deal as if it was skill, he called a very large raise with AJs, this was still a full table ) he was 2nd chip lead (I estimate 2.5:1 dog to me) and could have cruised into a good placing. He was first to act made a nice raise a guy with almost no chips calls with the little he had left I wake up in the SB to 66 and made a move going all in. He thinks for a long long time and then calls. He had to put me at a higher pair than his T or 2 overcards basically very hi probability at coinflip or less odds. I Would not call an all-in from #2 with 66, (especially since I had a grip on the table, some were trying to make a deal that I get 2nd cash and the other 9 split the rest, I told them fine but from my experience 10 way deals rarely work) I made a move with hi probability of him folding. The board came T7X,9,8. To complete the story the whole table was yelling “8” on the river; everyone wanted the obnoxious guy out. If you think about it to hit a straight in my situation you must have one of the 4 T’s OR 4 5’s, he was holding 2 of the 8 necessary cards for me*.Anyway I coasted into 1st place $6k..., bad beats go both ways (my other good bad beat was 4 left, blinds/antes are enormous other 2 folded me in SB, make a move on the BB with 73 he had KK hit X32,2,3 and won the event).Still waiting upon your response to our bet.*if you think about there are worse situations think 33 vs. 22 22, there you have less possible straights (only 2: 2-6 and wheel) and you MUST have a 3 of which opponent is holding 2.... Saying that it is actually, funnily, a better situation to be in as there are actually many more ways to tie, any straight or flush on the board, that doesn't have a 3 (or even 3 low flush of the 2 suits he isn't holding) will tie so your total pot equity is higher than the situation I was in.just to remind everyone the only reason I posted is to call censored on your claim that you had a bad beat story where you were on the winning side of a bad beat preflop all-in and had the worst of it 39:1. You convienently sidestepped that. -
"OK, I accept". I am glad btlee! now let's get to it:Player A 2c2dPlayer B 3c3dTo complete the situation there are 2 more players who went all in this hand:Player C 2h2sPlayer D 3h3sPlease show me any 5 card board that Player A can win (and Player B will lose) . I will honorably transfer to you $500 within 24 hours (PM to me your PokerStars account name). I have no problem for you accepting input from other FCPers, if any such board is found by others I will gladly pay you. If you cannot show me such a board in reasonable time (is 24h reasonable?) then let's be in contact for you to transfer to me $250. Good Luck!"give me your 2 hands/4 cards (and only4 cards) and let me know which you want me to make win. in the following format please." Interesting that you "Accept" but then put a limitation to ONLY 4 cards... Where did I say it will ONLY be 4 cards, obviously in that situation there will always be winning ways. I did provide 4 cards of the 2 players we are talking about along with the relevant side situation of the other 2 players that went all in. In you're original response you said "no such thing. the worst possible is around 17:1 (10:1 if heads up)" this is a non-heads-up situation and I believe it is worse than 17:1 of course if you prove me wrong, you earn $500.
Although your "bet" has morphed a couple of times, it now apppears that we both understand the wager.OK, I accept. give me your 2 hands/4 cards (and only4 cards) and let me know which you want me to make win. in the following format please.example:Hand 1. Ac AdHand 2. As AhMake hand 2 win.just to remind everyone the only reason I posted is to call censored on your claim that you had a bad beat story where you were on the winning side of a bad beat preflop all-in and had the worst of it 39:1. You convienently sidestepped that. (unless everyone else at a 10 person table showed their hands and you wrote them down)for example1. As Ac2. Ad Ah3. Ks Qc4. Jd Th5. 9s 8c6. 7d 6h7. 2s 3s8. 2c 3c9. 2d 2hin which case hand 9 absolutely cannot win (or even tie for that mater). but then again hand 9 would be an idiot to even be in the hand. which makes me curious what you could have been playing to be a 39:1 dog and still go all in pre-flop. (you have yet to answer that btw) or do you not wish to reveal your scales.
Yes, this is Hold'em. I will give the starting situation. I will claim Player A (starting hand given) CANNOT win over Player B (starting hand given) no matter which 5 card board comes. I will lose if you provide such board where player A wins (and player B loses). The loser transfers $500/$250 via pokerstarsdo you accept?just to clarify.... you will name 2 Hold'Em starting hands (4 cards) and all I have to do is provide a 5 card board to make one beat the other....I accept -
Yes, this is Hold'em. I will give the starting situation. I will claim Player A (starting hand given) CANNOT win over Player B (starting hand given) no matter which 5 card board comes. I will lose if you provide such board where player A wins (and player B loses). The loser transfers $500/$250 via pokerstarsdo you accept?
just to clarify.... you will name 2 Hold'Em starting hands (4 cards) and all I have to do is provide a 5 card board to make one beat the other....I acceptbtlee, this is my proposal:1. I want to bet you $500, giving you 2:1 odds.2. I will provide an example where PREFLOP (as I originally posted) 2 cards CANNOT win over other 2 cards. (ties can happen)3. You will provide any 5 card board of your choosing in which the holder of the 2 cards I said CANNOT win, actually WINS.3. If you cannot give such 5 card board you pay me $250. If you do give such board I pay you $500*this is my proposal for you, do you accept?* I will not tilt if I lose $500TheTorpedo -
This is my proposal:1. I want to bet you $500, giving you 2:1 odds.2. I will provide an example where PREFLOP (as I originally posted) 2 cards CANNOT win over other 2 cards. (ties can happen)3. You will provide any 5 card board of your choosing in which the holder of the 2 cards I said CANNOT win, actually WINS.3. If you cannot give such 5 card board you pay me $250. If you do give such board I pay you $500*this is my proposal for you, do you accept?* I will not tilt if I lose $500TheTorpedofirst off I have absolutely no clue what you just wrote means.I'll try to translate however. 1. You want to bet me $100.2. If you can provide an example where PREFLOP (as you originally posted) 2 cards are a 39:1 favorite over any other 2 cards. you win.3. if you cannot. i win.If this is your proposal I accept. -
This achievment with or without tilting, I am curious to knowYou don't Tilt?That's nothing...I have never lost a pot...seriously....I haven't lost a pot in 10 years...I got about 3 billion in the bank.... :roll: -
BTLEE,What about our bet?
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If use it without giving me credit I will scour the earth to find you little &^&@BAG and when I do you will be very sorry**BTW I never tilt
I'll use it, and you'll like it. And I'll never give you credit for it.
I love to brag on the internet. it is an original concept, I'm so good^^PM for rights to use"*"I think he can declare his FIIIIIIIIIIIIINE use of the "*" in his posts. Very original, very creative. I'm taking a liking to it. -
I love to brag on the internet. it is an original concept, I'm so good^^PM for rights to use"*"I think he can declare his FIIIIIIIIIIIIINE use of the "*" in his posts. Very original, very creative. I'm taking a liking to it. -
Ron, I have a lot of leaks but tilting ain't one of them, as to my declaration it does come off as bragging* but seems the way to get a good discussion in this forumGood day sir*people who brag on anonymous internet forums are patheticTo me, in my opinion, it came off more as a bragging declaration instead of a group discussion. I don't tilt. Just seemed silly to me. Sorry if you don't agree. If you don't, ignore my post and respond to the serious responses. Don't call me out and engage in a p1ssing contest with me. I reserve the right to disagree with the OP and I didn't call him or her any names. I merely pointed out that it seemed like a silly statement. Besides, I didn't realize I was crossing you with my posts. I really feel bad now. It was never my intention to upset or irritate you in any way shape or form. One question though, why are you defendiing the OP? Do you two have a little thing goin on? Take me for what I am, a wise guy. If you don't like my input, ignore it.Good day sir.I said good day.
poker tracker how is it actually useful
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As I have left Vegas playing a lot more online. Doing OK. I only play tourneys and SnGs. I have tried both pokeroffice and now pokertracker and still haven't found it beneficial to me. I am very tech adept and it is rare where software baffles me so tricks on getting going and positive uses would be great.In poker tracker I'm also lost on the issue of loading tournament summaries.ThanksDidn't want to waste a post on this as it has no beneficial value to forum members (except nice story) but last week I flopped a royal (2nd career royal flop) and guy, PF raiser, goes all in on me with his 55... I weighed the odds, the outs and decided, yeah I'll call