Jordan
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He didn't put a feeler bet. He check/called the the turn for 22k.I shouldn't have tried to explain this play I made. Perhaps I was correct in thinking not many people make the play?I was playing him, not my cards. I thought he was weak and calling him would slow him down, which it did, I just didn't believe him to have a 4 in the hole, and if he did, certaintly wouldn't call with it.peace.- Jordan
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try mike caro's book of poker tells.- Jordan
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If you're 16 and planning to play in a casino....good luck...I'm 20 and could probably pull it off but wouldn't think about it at age 16...unless you give off that vibe and look the part, not to mention sound it.Just an ignorant opinion.- Jordan
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Eddie, just start a poker journal if needed.It's simple and reflects results as long as you're truthful.- Jordan
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That's fine, but you are only assuming and do not know for sure as you are claiming to be the most "probable" reason. I just gave another very valid option as to why (without claiming it to be an absolute). Online poker and poker are two very different games.Smash, I'm not looking to offend you or hurt your spirits, but many of your posts in reaction to anothers objection are very pompous.Good day sir, good luck with your 50-1000 goal.- Jordan
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Or, without being a dick like smash (no offense, you didn't offer much other than what you said), you play people not cards...which is what online poker is (straight cards - for the most part).My live game is stronger than my online game so I prefer live...I believe Jennifer harmon herself (duhn duhn) said it herself that her online game sucks cuz she can't "read" people as well...Stick to what you are comfortable with, and that sounds like live play.- Jordan
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The answer is the mod locking this thread and forgetting about it.- Jordan
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I'm just using a quote with you in it...nothing i'm about to say relates to that quote.Play poker for money not for bragging rights. I don't really care if you played in the "big game" or not. Poker is about money, not popularity. Just shut up and play. 25-50 or .25-.50 I don't care. Just shut the hell up. No one cares.- JordanAnd do not use the argument, "If no one cares why did you post that?". Good day.also a very true hand. i had the experience in learning that 1.9% does apply to 6k pots as well. -
Bleh. I suppose my post was just rambling. I dunno. I was sure I was "ahead" in the hand, which I was I guess until the turn which wasn't really a scare card. Forget this post...probably could only comment on it if you were the one playing the hand.anywho- JordanLet the big stack have the blinds.Don't bluff into the big stack.Try not to get involved with him at all unless you're *sure* you're way ahead.Attack the weaker players, not the strong ones, that's what they're there for.His call was horrible, but he's a lot more likley to make it than a short stack is. -
Alright fellas. This is the first post I've made in this section of the forum regaurding a hand I played. For the most part I think that I made the "right" play, and just happened to end with bad results. Before I get into details, let me give you some background.We are at the, duh-duhn, final table of a 3 table tournament. Started with 21 people and was worked down to the final 6 when this hand came up.Big blind was 2400, small 1200. I'm in the BB with about 33k infront of me. Levels are raising every ten minutes. I have played with the SB once before in a stupid little cash game, just for fun, so other than that, and a few other hands from earlier in the day, I have no real play experience with him. I have however picked up on the fact that he plays like a book, and by that I mean, raises whenever he is first to enter the pot, or if it is folded to him on the button/SB. I actually remember him mentioning at our little cash game reading helmuths book, which I have not, but I'm sure it tells you to raise the button.Anyways, it's folded to the SB who, as I expected, raises 5k on top of the 2400. I look at K-6o and decide to call cause I know he is just raising to raise (when I look back at this hand I think my mistake was in perhaps not re-raising preflop - however I am confident in my post flop play and was already planning on making a play at the pot). Flop comes 10-9-2. Again, I was planning on him to bet the flop no matter what, and he of course does. He fires 5k, I delibrate for a few seconds and call with the intentions to bet when he checks to me because I am about 90% positive I have the best hand, and with position on him, he will most likey check/fold unless he actually has top pair or second pair, and with that I think he will continue to bet (or perhaps even ace high).Turn is a 4 and he checks to me. He gave me that look (you know it if you'd seen it) and says, "I check to ya". Now I'm about 95% sure he will fold this hand, not only cause he has nothing, but I probably actually have the best hand with just high card. I decide to bet the rest of my stack, which was 22,200. I think the all in bet was the best move, but not completely sure. I suppose I could have bet 10k, but in my opinion that would seem (at least to me) as a weak bet into a big pot. If I were to bet 15k or 17k I think that would look fishy just leaving behind a handful.Either way, I knew I had him outplayed and again, as I said, pretty certain I had the hand straight up.He deliberated for a while, and finally called with Q4o. River was a blank and I was out.I was surprised by this call, as my bluffs are not called much, but I stand behind my read, play, and action despite the end result. I really only make this move late in tournaments and espicially with solid reads.Ugh, I forgot to mention he was the big stack at the table. I don't know his count, but I think if he would have called and lost he would have been slightly below par. That may have factored into his call?So to try and make a point of this...what do you think? Unlucky he out..."turned" me and called with third pair? Hah. Bleh, I think that's all I wanted to write...my personal feelings on the hand are that he made a crying call on the turn, which I really don't know why anyone would check/call 22k...cuz I don't know many players that trap with third pair...however, I believe my biggest error, if any, was to not re-raise preflop...or perhaps even the flop.Thoughts? Flames?- Jordanps- seriously, he didn't fire the turn...yet called the turn. Do you really think he was "trapping" with third pair? I still don't believe he was.
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That's fine...but you don't have the BR...yet. If you take a bad run of cards you will feel differently about it. Bankroll is a very important factor in being a successful winner (if you are playing as a means of some sort of income).Just my opinion, but I'm sure many others would advise you the same.Good luck.- JordanI'm new to this website, and I have to say its become one of my first stops when i get online. This experiment Smash is doing has helped me alot. My bankroll is currently at $600, built at the 2-4 level. I realize that i should be playing lower, but for some reason I am too impatient to play the micros, and just feel i'm good enough to play at the 2-4 level. I've got 358 hours logged, which isn't enough to evaluate my skill level accurately. Seeing an accomplished (I have no reason to doubt him, based on what i've read) doing this experiment has helped me to feel more comfortable moving down (that sounds strange, i'm sure), thus playing more within the means of my bankroll. Good experiment, ready for day 2....[/code] -
I'm going to try the "accidental" call move and maybe that will help me win.This one time..I was holding KQ, limped in, got raised behind, call. Flop comes rags...raiser moves in, one calls, I fold. Raiser turns over JJ (dont remember other guy). Turn was a King, river King. Wish I accidentally called there.
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At least you have an educated opinion for your disbelief.Oh wait, I'm assuming you don't have an educated reason for your belief, aren't I? I guess I should be worried about offending you, cause perhaps you did come to your stated conclusion through "mature" means. However, you shake your head at "mature" adults, and probably assume the same about them in their beliefs."There is no god, Jesus never existed, etc."There is a god, Jesus existed, etc.I guess we have conflicting statements with about the same amount of support for each.In conclusion, don't post what you don't know. Or assume what you think you know of another.- JordanI had a cringe of embarrassment for Daniel when I read his "prayer" comment. I just shake my head when I hear that apparently mature adults actually believe in that sort of childish religious hogwash. There is no god, Jesus never existed, etc. Wake up, folks, the Maytag Superscrub Brainwashing Machine comes with a lifetime warranty. -
By reading the board.Learning what type of hands certain individuals prefer to play.Learning what type of hands certain individuals play in certain situations.Betting patterns.Knowing your opponent in general (the more detailed the better obviously).The better you know your opponent, the better you can put him on hands. Reading the board is also important in becoming a better "hand" reader. Most all of this comes from experience, so the more you play, the more you can expect to be able to "learn".- Jordan
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werd. congrats.- Jordan
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Keep it going Daniel.- Jordan
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AK gets cracked? AK isnt much. If your lossing big pots with this hand consistantly you should look into how you are you are playing it.. It should be a profitable hand for you cause when hits. its youre normally good and others are drawing. OR someoneelse got lucky and hit a Q or J or has a pocket pair and you simply fold.. Fold when u know ur beat. Too many people go to the rail w this cuz they think they are entitled to win the pot.what is a good site to play at??? I've experienced a lot of bad beats on Party Poker, but it's been even worst at FullTilt. I've had AK cracked god knows how many times in a row on there. I've heard PokerStars is solid. I signed up on FullTilt, because of the 100% bonus, but it's going to take forever to earn, so it really ended up backfiring, considering I dropped 140 in 30 minutes playing 2/4. It really does seem liek Partypoker has way too many bad beats and yes there are a lot of fish there which makes it tough. 1 or 2 fish at a table is ideal, but a table full of them means your game will be totally thrown off. -
That stuff happens live...I just RE-Deposited @ UB 2 tak eadvantage of the big reload bonus. I prefer Live play 10-Fold but some of the online promos are t ogood to pass on..Reason # 2 is the number of times I have seen pocket K,K against other high pocket pairs. Last week I was doing play money on a fairly new poker site (many pro's on this one) and I counted 2 hands (out of 40) wheremy J,J went up against K,K, my 10,10 up against K,K, my 8,8 up against J,J and Q,Q and another showdown where I saw another guy have J,J, all in against K,K.It was rediculous. I decided right then and there I was done -
See, if I played online, that would be the way to do it. Play as much tables as possible, staying within your bankroll, and watch your hourly rate sky rocket.Of course your brain has to able to compute many different sets of information, which with this style probably is better for a person with a good IQ...or whatever goes along with being able to handle a lot of information at one time. A lot being 3-4 tables or more.- Jordan
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I used to play online quite a bit, mixed with live play, but I recently decided to just drop online poker for the most part.I dunno about the outdraws. That just seem to happen. It may seem like more cause online you play more hands, but the thing I dislike the most about online play is not being able to look at your opponent. For me, online play has taken a big part out of the game, so I'm pretty much finished with it for the most part. I may put down little deposits here and there from time to time if I want to play in some tournaments or qualifiers some, but other than that I think live is the best bet at being a better poker player.However, playing multi tables online is a great way to make a solid hourly rate...or negative hourly rate. - Jordan
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