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I suffer from what can only be described as a mental defect. I literally explode mid-tourneys after playing an otherwise decent game. Idon't think I'm the only one, so I am seeking advice from otherswho have overcome this same defect.You know the routine. You play well, or as well as you can play. Then,for no reason you can explain, you decide to go insane in a hand youhave no business going out in, and blow off half or better of your stack.That is a mental defect, a serious flaw -- same thing we see in chesswhen after an otherwise great game the player looses the thread of the gameand is soon crushed.I don't think it is necessary to give example hands, if you have sufferedthis fate -- and I'm sure you have -- then you know exactly what I amtalking about.Why do I go insane mid-tourney and blow off my chips? Is it as simpleas an inability to focus for long periods of time? Is it pressure? My ego? What makes me go crazy?What do you do to help avoid these "blackouts"?thanksEdit/Delete Message
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Ah, you should want good players to win--Cheating probably does happen, but isn't it more likely that some of your table mates are the cheaters and not the site?Still, I think a good player should usually crush the machine--it isn't like chess, and your opponent isn't Fritz!If you don't know odds, you can bet your opponent does or is using a simple application--I would worry about my opponents more then the site. Oh, and why doesn't anyone get online with something like "I know this site is rigged, I was dealt AA three out of the last five hands, and I won every one of them!"--hehe
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Stop getting on your nerves?Poker forums naturally attract winning players?Come on, you think I'm annoying because I question "winning" players--oh well.I'm just trying to keep things objective.several players have admitted to being losing players here.you are new and will see that eventually.many eventual long term losing players are not aware of that and currently believe they are winners because of their short term successpoker forums would naturally attract those that think about the game and would be skewed towards winnersyou are getting on my nerves from several threads.stop. -
The obvious question is, where the hell are all these loosing players? Everbody is either a winner, or they don't post--or well, theres that other option we wont talk about.
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Full Tilt says there were several transfers to your account from this guy. It wasn't as though he payed back a simple loan--FullTilt isn't out to get you--it looked suspicious, and why not, the story is goofy at best.
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Honestly, I'm just happy to see poker sites cracking down on the cheats. If you weren't involved sorry. Oh, and why did you loan him money and then recieve money from him? I'm guessing it was loaned, he was paying you back--come on man.
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Who lends money to a friends roomate to play poker?
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They are supposed to disagree with me, it wouldn't be any fun if they didn't.Uhhh... While I won't argue my degeneracy, I'm pretty sure most of the strat forum regulars will disagree with you.
This is what I'm talking about, "you virtually can't go broke.", I mean, who told you that?This is poker, you can and you will go broke. Go ahead, start the flame fest swearing you'll never go broke, been a winner from day one yadda-yadda, and this last comment isn't directly solely at you mikey and it is half tounge and cheek.discipline is the most important imo. Not getting personally attached to what you hold, being able to let some big hands go.Also, that applies to bankroll management. Not tilting and then blowing off extra money at blackjack to get even. If you have great bankroll management, you virtually can't go broke. -
You're supposed to go broke.Keep having fun, if it stops being fun, stop playing. The number of people who actually make money at this game is so small, you may never meet one--oh, you'll meet thousands who claim to be winning players...In my opinion, if you go broke, and you have some play money--AND YOU'RE STILL HAVING FUN--then re-up and play on; otherwise, why keep killing yourself?
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A Poker Bot?I mean, you don't think all these guys actually win money--do you?Seriously, most of us are just degenerate gamblers who'll never get it, so whatever you do, just have fun--
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buwahaa, thats funnyI already wear a diaper, but i cant find a feeding tube on ebay -
slow down man -- you sound like your about a step away from adult diapers to avoid bathroom breaks --take a friggin break, eat -- oh, and wait 30min so you don't cramp upI play alot of MTT during the day and my eating ritual is always pretty phucked. I end up running back and forth from the kitchen whenever i hear a beep and im trying to make lunch. What do you do?? -
This isn’t advice so much as things to think about –In my experience at .10/.20 –My first rule of thumb after some time in these levels is – don’t play at tables of nine. I stick to six players or less, four and five is nice.My second rule is – find out who’s either on tilt or just crazy, and who is aggressive, who is passive and who is conservative – I have found that even at this level there is a mix. After I know something about the players (not much, but anything is better then nothing!) then I have some idea of what type of hands they will play, and how they act when they have a hand or not. (betting)Some other observations –I think bluffing has to be a bigger part of these players’ games then at higher levels. (Maybe not, but it would seem that many bluff too often, and at odd times.)A lot of times you will get the odds you need to draw out – so does the other guy.The guy on tilt or the maniac can hurt you, so don’t get into a lot of hands with him even though you know he is full of it; I wait for the monster and then single him out.Find the fold button, and use it--
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I don't know, I've never just scooped the blinds with a call.What good is AA if you just scoop the blinds?
Ok, then there is some truth to what I said.Yes, you want to isolate
The reason you raise is to represent strength, and the reason you represent strength is to drive out what might currently be weaker hands that could develop strength during play. Do I hope someone calls? Yes, but the brunt of my raise is to drive off weaker hands.Oh, and I did say (the majority of the time) in other words, in my opinion, at my levels, raising most big hands 3x BB isn't a great play. That being said, I do raise many hands pre-flop, just not as often as I might if I were either playing at a higher limit, or in a tourney. Anyway, the point of this thread was about when if ever some people might play the off beat starting hand, and it seems that the majority are just dead set against it.but you primarily want to get a lot of money in the pot ASAP. -
I respect that you are the stronger player; however, I think your position on this is too static. I don’t agree that a person should never play off beat starting hands, and by off beat I just mean something other then those hands commonly accepted as being good e.g. AA KK AK QQ AQ JJ 1010 etc.I liken you’re position here to that of those who advise players to adhere to similar absolutes like raising 3x BB with a good hand, or using the button to exert pressure etc. All these things are good, but they aren’t always good, and rarely good at the limits I play. For example, I have found at my limits raising 3x BB the majority of the time you have a good starting hand is just a good way to give away money. (You’ll note how often some players cry that no one respects raises—well, change.) In my opinion the tendency of players at my limit to be calling stations negates the purpose of raising 3x BB pre-flop—rarely are people going to get out even with the raise, and therefore the point of my raise becomes moot. So, if I continue to do this despite what the table is telling me, I’m just being a poker robot, and complaining when my programming fails.By the same token, when the table tells me over and over that the majority of people there will see the flop with any ace, any two face cards, any single face, any pair and any suites, and everyone calls pre-flop up to me, it might be a good time to see that flop with the off beat hand, I’ve certainly got nice pot odds.no chewy, playing hands like 92 off is never a good strategy as you put it. There are plenty of playable, raisable hands that have much higher EV that will keep your opponents on thier toes.Hands like 92 are long term losers, regardless of what you think based on a few times they have hit big. One reason hands like 92 suck is there really aren't a lot of boards that both connect with your hand and any other hand that would be willing to give you much action. -
Isn’t extreme to say, “Never play ______, pre flop!”? If you only play top ten hands and connectors, then aren’t you limiting yourself? I see the reason for playing only top ten hands and connectors the majority of the time, but to say that is all you’ll ever play—ever—seems extreme. Oh, and 92o was just an example, I haven’t even played that hand, maybe in the BB—89o I have.Let’s say you sit down for a couple of hours, and the majority of the time you’re playing top ten hands and an occasional connector. You win a few bets here and there, some big some not so big—you loose a few too. Now during that time you play off beat hole cards once an hour. The first three times you miss the flop and fold, no big deal, you’re out the blinds or a small raise. But, on the fourth hour you’re off beat hand hits big—in my limited experience, nobody puts you on that hand, especially if you’ve been playing top hole cards, and the result is often having someone move in big and being caught by surprise—and of course the, “You idiot, 92o! You lucky moron!” Who is the moron? In my opinion, this type of play is tactical. It is an attempt to catch on opponent off guard in the short term for a big gain; and really, there isn’t much risk.I would be really surprised to find out that no big money winners try this from time to time.
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Ok, so I know the big starting hands. But, I think I win more with the off beat hole cards. For example, I might win a few bets holding QQ when the board hits duds, but I really seem to win when I’m holding something stupid like 92o and the board comes down 99K and the opponent has something like AK—or I have a hidden straight etc.Obviously the big starting hands win big too. But, what I want to ask if you guys play the odd starting hand just whenever, or if you have developed a strategy for playing these hands. Being a noob I usually play them on occasion (gamble) or if I have position.
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Ouch, can't you set a stop loss? I'm an idiot, 1200 probably is your stop loss--ouch.I went to the boat today. I played for 9 hours. I am just as tired if not more than after a day of work. Oh yea, and I lost $1200. Those kinds of days are gonna suck if you're counting on the money. Hopefully you're prepared. Make sure you are. -
I would be a little nervous about playing poker to pay bills--thats just me. I just think it is so much easier to go broke or break even....anyway, best of luck.
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Yeah, soon as I finished posting I saw a nearly full SNG--go figure! So is FCP a hub for poker sites? Anyway, if more start comming it sounds good to me.Hi chewybarber, I noticed that you just won a 6-handed sit and go this morning.Over the next weeks as the traffic picks up there will be more players in the sit and gos. Right now the evening hours typically have more sit and go activity.The volume of activity on the network will be much higher as larger new sites are integrated over the coming weeks. -
Being a poor player myself, I can tell you I hate playing against strong players. (Luckily for me, I am learning on the minibet.)I'll throw something else out, I've noticed that a lot of the big talkers--table coaches--can't find the fold button, and they never think they are beat; naturally when these people loose they yell and cry, and swear they have never seen such a lousy group of players. Well, I've never seen so many "pro" players who can't find the fold button.
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I think this makes sense--and I am one of the idiots at the table, but I'm working on that.I think your idea is interesting, but fundamentally flawed. Here's why.You're defining "strategy" or "skill" incorrectly. You're exactly correct saying that a "pro" who continually tried to bet these sucky opponents off hands, or relentlessly bet aces throughout a hand while others are drawing into him despite how the board developed, may very well end up a long-term loser in this game. That is because this would not be skillful play.Players who whine "If my opponents were better, I could beat them" don't understand this basic concept of skillful playing. In poker, you don't adjust your opponents to your preferred style in order to win, you adjust your style to beat whatever opponents you encounter. If you try to play an amatuer like a pro (ie., setting up elaborate traps, anticipating bluffs, etc.) you will not be playing skillfully, you will be playing poorly, and you shouldn't be surprised if you lose.Hope that clears some of this up. -
I just signed up here and have enjoyed playing the tiny bet tables. (trying to learn) I like the software--kill the graphics, and it's' perfect.But, are the tourney's always this empty? I am surprised by how difficult it is to fill a SNG, is this something new?
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Just an observation--nobody thinks they suck at poker. --weird-- the poker ego
Mental Defect
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Thanks.I think I will continue to play tourneys and work to improve.I think developing an overall strategy for the entire tourney, and a mental script for individual hands will help. Not having a routine seems to leave me open to acting without good reason, andthis is probably worse after long periods of concentration. thinking this anyway