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  1. J2 = JLo I'm sure I'm not the only person to call this hand by this name, but I haven't heard it, so perhaps I am. Not terribly original. I thought of this one game while we were discussing a recent tourney win by Ben Affleck. I looked down and saw J2 and thought "JLo".J2 suited = JLo dressed upJ2 off-suit = JLo naked (sounds perverted doesn't it?)Anyway, that's my contribution.

  2. When play gets hand for hand, it can take some time for those last players to vanish. I'm sorry that had to be you. However, I say your call was correct. Let's look at the math.We'll use your number of 27000.The pot is laying you 6.75 to 1. That is a tremendous discount and makes calling with practically any hand correct. You could have 72 os and practically make this call. The preflop odds of winning the hand. A few different scenarios.QQ 44.3%AKs 39.4% Just for example purposes. We know they didn't have it.22 16.4% 5.1 to 1 oddsQQ 19.2% This situation was unlikely, because the button would AA 66.7% have reraised. Still correct to call though.22 14.2% 6 to 1 oddsQQ 55.3% AJs 28.4%22 16.4% 5.1 to 1 odds QQ 66.1% TT 19%22 14.9% 5.7 to 1 oddsQQ 64.9%TJs 18.7 %22 16.4% 5.1 to 1 oddsWith that 72 os you would likely be a 7 to 1 dog in most cases.Another factor you might take into account though is what value making the money has to you vs. finishing high in the tournament. If there are other stacks that will be vulnarable in the next round, you might want to fold. In other words, if you feel the odds of another player being eliminated in the next round are better than 6.75 to 1, you could fold, if you simply want to finish in the money. But you want to win I'm sure.

  3. Dealers should never negatively have an affect on a game. Some might like it if the dealer simply dealt the cards, and made change, and otherwise wasn't heard of. I for one do like a dealer that talks a little, though not too much. The last thing you want is a dealer who is complaining and is grumpy. I can forgive misdeals and plenty as long as the dealer has a pleasant demenor. Good luck and may you enjoy.

  4. Your hand selection will vary depending on several factors, but initially it would be advised to play hands that are unlikely to get one in trouble. KJ and QT are examples of trouble hands, because you run into kicker problems. AJ is another hand that spells trouble. Read Sklansky's starting hand requirements and learn to play those hands correctly. As you learn to play premium hands correctly, you can start to adjust your play and playing a few more hands. You'll learn when you can play that KJ and QT, or AJ, and when not to. That will factor in your opponent, your position on the table, the size of your stack, and numerous other factors. It is a fun journey, that I don't think will ever end.

  5. I'll take as many to a flop as want to tango. I didn't always feel that way, prefering a tighter table of competant players, as bad beats were less frequent. However, I've learned that bad beats imply a player playing from behind, which in the end, is exactly what I want. Granted, the more players that call your raise with KK, the more likely you'll need to fold when it's apparant you're beat as the board plays out. Yet, you can punish those players when you flop sets and strong hands. The swings might be more severe in games that are loose, but overall I'd say they are far more profitable to a good player.

  6. 9 player tables and 10 player tables require a similar strategy of tight-aggressive. There is little difference between the two. When you get down to a 6-handed table or less, you need to open up your starting hands, with high card value increasing and suited connectors diminishing in value.

  7. My weaknesses that I'm currently working on:Limit- so many I have migraines. Most costly would be my play of middle pair, weak kicker. An example would be me calling a multiway pot with 8 :D 7 :) in MP and the flop coming K :) 8 :) 6 :club: . I've never quite grasped how to play this hand the most profitably. I tend to call an early bet rather than isolate, and fold on the turn if I don't improve. Then again, I sometimes get overly aggresive and get called down by a 98 or a weak-suited K. No Limit- my weakness is usually what was my strength just a few weaks prior. Ex. A few weeks ago, I felt I was making some good reads and successfully called a few hands holding Q or K high, after putting an opponent on a lower draw. My success has led to an inflated ego in this area, and I'm getting careless in this regard. Pot Limit- Passively playing the turn when I have the best hand. Ex. I have AJ and raised preflop from the CO. Flop come JT6 with two to a flush. I bet the flop and get a couple callers. The turn is a safe card such as the duece of stars, and again I'm checked to. Lately, I've been overly passive here and made a medium sized bet or gasp, even checked. It isn't good to be tight-passive. Omaha Hi/lo- Letting go of weak draws on the turn.

  8. Keep in mind Hellmuth isn't going to chase a backdoor RF draw if the odds dont justify it. Small stakes online players will do this, just so they can feel all giddy inside and tell their grandma about it. I fold backdoor RF draws all the time if odds justify it. Good point. We online players see far more hands and rivers than you'll find playing in a professional setting. I see straight flushes quite regularly, and I have or fold one every month, maybe less. As for royals, I've had a couple.

  9. Funny, but I always thought of Smasharoo as the Johnny Miller of this forum. The guy who tells it like it is, adding sarcasm. He offends, but is usually dead on in his analysis. Maybe Simon Cowell too. He tells it like it is, and everybody shouts back at him, but you can't really dispute his reasoning. Yes, it's pathetic, I do watch Idol on occasion.I have this friend who has to be in the spotlight, yet it is very interesting that he detests those who are also looking for that spotlight. Funny how that goes.

  10. I'll contribute one, just so I feel like I belong.If you play low stakes pot-limit or NL, pay careful attention to what players bet. It is common for those new to pot limit to bet a small amount if they have a draw. Their thinking is they can start building a pot, be the aggressor, yet not overcommit themselves. If you have a made hand, this is when you need to take over. Small bets in these games usually means weakness. Oh heck, I'll do one more.It probably has been mentioned, but the amount a player buys-in for is very useful information. Those who buy in for the max are usually your toughest competition. Avoid them, but carefully watch their play. These guys will be at your tables often.

  11. I might understand why a player would call a pot sized bet on the flup under certain situations with just over, but on the whole, they are making a mistake. In limit, I'll often take a card off with just overs if in this situation, but only to the turn. No limit is a different animal. If he is an astute player, and he puts you on a middle pair such as JJ, TT, 99, he recognizes that there are several scare cards to your hand. He'd have to recognize you as a player that is capable of folding a good hand like JJ. Thus, he calls the flop, and if a Q, K, or A comes off, he could very well get you off the hand. He doesn't actually have to have AQ, or any hand at all for this to work. This doesn't take into account other cards, such as flush cards, straight draws, and such. There are often several scare cards that can come up on the turn when you hold JJ. That is an isolated example, but one where a good player might call your bet. On the whole though, with most players, they are making a big mistake.

  12. Highly recommended that any player do their own version of Smash's experiment. Like has been said, it is simply building a bankroll using proper bankroll management. Not using this management is one of the most common errors committed by players. Another key point is review. There is much to be gained by carefully reviewing your hand histories and being critical of your play.

  13. The board reads J :) 4 :D 4 :) 4 :) J :) You raised on the button and 3 saw the flop.Flop J :D 4 :club: 4 :D It was checked around. You felt Player #2 had connected with the flop and would put you all-in if you bet. You're not sure if he holds a 4, J, or has a pocket pair. You do feel he has a hand. Turn 4 :D You called a small bet on the turn by player #2... this is a major tactical mistake, which you immediately recognize. Player #1 folds. Let me reveal your hand at this point. You hold K :) K :) .Your confident your lone opponent holds a J, based on multiple hours of play with him. You feel your best play would have been to put him all-in on the turn when he held a very powerful hand, but one vulnarable to over cards. One which he could not lay down.River J :) Your opponent immedietly goes all-in. What do you do?He has you covered in chips. The pot on the turn was aproximately 1/2 your chip stack. EX. $10 pot...you had $20. Thus you are calling $20 to win $30. My analysis:Fold. You've already misplayed the hand by not putting the player all-in on the turn. Not betting on the flop is questionable. Now a player immedietly puts you all in when the board shows a full house. However, your full house is better. The reason I say fold with confidence is that it is my experience that when players go all-in on a shared board, they have a very strong hand that a player may overlook. That is a tough situation, but an easy fold. Let's look at a more common situation.Same board, but instead you hold A :) K :D . You checked the flop and called the turn with overs and a decent high hand given the board. Your opponent goes all-in on the river.Let's look at the math.In this situation, your calling $20 to win $5. Why? At best, you will have a split pot. You cannot win his $20 bet, nor the remaining $5. This makes for a very easy fold.However, I see players making these mistakes frequently in NL games. They see a board that appears to be shared and call a large bet thinking, "it's a split anyway." The shock on their faces never ceases to amaze me. BTW...that fool who made a mockery of his KK was me. One of the worst hands I've ever played. I much rather would have had all my money in on the turn with the best hand and get drawn out on, than save money by folding on the river, which I did. My opponent held JT in his hand.

  14. Sounds like I'm not alone in this, but I went through a phase in my poker development when I wanted to focus on getting a better read on opponents. Thus, on occasion I would do what has been mentioned. I'd peek down at my hole cards while slightly crossing my eyes, thus blurring my vision. Nobody would notice since my head was down. Before I'd do this, I'd pay careful attention to the table around me, and note what players wanted to see a flop. Based on the information, If things looked good, I'd open for a standard raise. I solely wanted to focus on whether a player was strong or weak, and didn't trouble myself with putting them on an exact hand or type of hand. Just strong or weak. I found this excercise to be very helpful in developing my senses. I still continue to do this, but as time as passed, I've continued to add various aspects to what I'm trying to pick up on. Right now, I'm really focusing on betting patterns, and my reactions to them. Side note: I prefer not to look back at my cards during the hand as a rule. However, when doing this excercise, I might need to do this. Surprisingly enough, I was able to win many pots without knowing my cards until I looked down after, simply picking up on weakness. Funny anectedote: I did this once in the CO with a 7 handed table I believe. My early observations indicated to me that the guy two in front liked his hand. I didn't see anybody else looking to interested in playing the pot. After that player raised, I called, without having looked at my hand. The flop is easy to remember, because it was 333. I thought that with a decent hand he would like such a flop. He checked to me, and I checked behind him, planning on folding to a bet on the turn. The turn was an A. His reaction was visably evident that he didn't like this card. When he checked, I bet the pot. He called reluctantly. I looked down at my chips and was planning on firing again on the river. The river was an inconsequential card that I don't rembember, but he checked to me. I thought what kind of bet I could make to get him to fold. I thought he would call a small bet, so I decided I needed to make it tough for him to call. So, I bet a little over half the pot, which wasn't insignificant in $. he spent some time thinking it over and shaking his head. He showed his cards to his neighbor, and his neighbor shaked his head as if to say, "that's a tough call." I then made what might have been a mistake. I decided that I better look down and see what I had in case he called. He was just starring at the board, so I didn't think he'd notice. I looked down to see, T3. I nearly gasped when I realized I had flopped quads. About the same time, he says, "I have to call. Do you have an Ace?" I rather embarassingly say "quads," as I turn up my garbage hand I called his raise with. He didn't show his hand, but when asked by another player he said he had QQ. I had no reason to doubt that. Despite winning the pot by a pure fluke, I was rather disappointed he had called.

  15. Hard to get away from that situation. I don't think you did anything wrong for sure.However, I wonder how the player with QQ would have ended up with a different flop of say J :) 7 :D X :) . Do you believe his call preflop was a slowplay or recognition of the fact that you might have had him beat? I agree that his reraise on the flop was a great move, appearing like AQ or such. You could have just have easily outplayed him under different circumstances though.

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