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#3685652 **official Mma Thread**

Posted Scroom on 20 January 2015 - 05:51 PM

View Postmrfritz, on 20 January 2015 - 11:33 AM, said:

wonder if the mob plays a part in this

Google stuff like 'FBI Point Shaving' for an example of past and present cases.
Anyone who thinks a multi-billion dollar industry that is wagering goes without occasional black hat influence is naive as a small child.
Individual sports are MUCH easier to influence since you only have to get to one guy. Boxing was notorious for it.

Lets put it this way.
You're a middle card fighter, you make 16K to show, 16K to win, maybe you get a fight bonus or two a year.
You get three fights, you win two and lets say you bag a bonus. That's 100K+. Minus training expenses, trainer/management cuts, you might drop below $100K, but its a heckuva living for a guy who would otherwise be roofing.

Now, say your next fight, coming off a loss, is against a ream bum. Some promotional newcomer who never panned out, 0-2 thusfar, you're a -450 favorite. You can buy him for +375.
You can buy him by submission for +1100.
You can buy him in the 3rd round for +1600.

Suddenly, you have the potential to notch a half million (or more) payday on this one fight by pulling guard in the 3rd and 'accidentally' giving up your back, tapping, oops, got caught. Will get 'em the next time.

Meanwhile, cousins, brothers and wives are cashing out stubs in LV, collecting booked action from the locals, for a shitton...;

Middle card fighter 'retires' from the right game at 32-35 with a paid off house, maybe a coiuple cars and a hundred grand in the bank if he plays it smart.
He retires a millionaire if he plays it smart and dirty.

Now with judging, that's a different kettle of fish. That is probably something mobb'ish, since that would require a fairly creepy degree of influence to get to three people, simultaneously, like that, unless they've been in the bag all along. I know how it works. I've seen The Departed.

#3669220 **official Mma Thread**

Posted AmScray on 11 August 2014 - 06:48 PM

Probably a retard.

Foaming-at-the-mouth gun nuts are almost always going to be morons, though.
I'm not talking ordinary gun owners, I'm not taking shooting sports enthusiasts. I'm talking people whose entire existence and sense of self is consumed by being 'the gun guy'.

Once upon a time, I was a part of that world. I speak from experience. I met some legit great people there but the 'gun world' is absolutely filled with the biggest kooks and delusional fantasists imaginable. Over the years, it's gotten dramatically worse. 10+ years ago, the gun scene was pretty benign, a bunch of white guys with AR15's, competitive shooters, irrational preparedness freaks and compulsive gun hoarders. All mostly hamless. Now, it's become an entire culture and 'identity' way above and beyond the practical stuff, which tends to attract very marginal people.

I'm glad I no longer have any part of that world. I grew up and grew out of it.

Also, the sub-irony that I noticed: some of the biggest. pussies. ever. are major gun enthusiasts yet they think they're great 'warriors' when they're really just a bunch of George Zimmermans. You want to see bad asses, go to a MMA gym. You want to see paranoid kooks, go to a 'defensive pistol course' and watch the guys with mustaches who stand under 5'6.

#3669209 **official Mma Thread**

Posted AmScray on 11 August 2014 - 06:31 PM

View PostRon_Mexico, on 11 August 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

The comments section under that post were so disturbing. So many horrible people in the world. Did the Internet creste these people with the anonymity or just give them a stage? Although, they comment through twitter and FB so it's not even anonymous. People,are just shitty

The internet is an environment.
Environments attract compatible creatures.

'Comment sections' of anything (Youtube being the best example, where the absolute lowest form of internet vermin are apt to exist) tend to be an environment that attract a particular kind of urchin that is in no way representative of humanity as much as it is representative of the sort of shitbags that sit around all day making internet comments.

People who spend their lives on the internet tend to suck- hard- at real life, which is reflected in their dumb opinions. The internet becomes the outlet for the bile they can't really spew in their daily lives. While normal, healthy people are out doing normal, healthy things, the internet is here being the internet. Some of us (meaning the 7 or 8 people who remain on this forum) are somewhere between 'internet lifers' and normal people but mostly normal.

What you see in the comment sections of a youtube video of a 3 year old Indian baby having a birthday and XxxBLACKMETAL420xX calls her a dothead, comments mocking some girl getting beaten half to death, LOL'ing at 9/11 victims, those are 'internet lifers'. If you could peer into their real lives, it would be tragic and sad 99 times of 100.

#3667107 **official Mma Thread**

Posted mrfritz on 17 July 2014 - 08:48 AM

he's very entertaining and said he'd literally fight anyone, can't ask for much more than that. this was a fantastic free card.