Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:38 PM
I figured that was the response I'd get so can't say I'm surprised.I'm not here to troll, and no, I'm not the proverbial 15 year old using his mom's computer in the basement (and that's not the first time I've seen that exact same attack thrown at someone). I'm just blunt. I'm not afraid to look foolish in doing so, or even to be wrong if that's the case (though, obviously, I wouldn't post if I didn't think I had a point). Blunt responses don't sit well with some people, and well, that's too bad. I've tried sugarcoating my points in the past during discussions, and I find people get upset anyway, so I just don't bother 'trying to be nice'.re: my Online Gambling point... it's a difficult subject to even discuss with you guys given it's such an obsessively large portion of most of your lives, and I think that colors & distorts your perspectives on what is really happening.Yes, I admit it's a domestic issue: those in other countries can probably continue to play online.The moral arguments are almost irrelevant (and you can make valid arguments in either direction, and some of the ones used are better than others). Whether or not the technicalities allow you to continue online gambling, you need to ask yourself: What does the Federal Government ultimately want? They want to ban online gambling. If the language or circumstances preclude their doing so at this time, they will eventually figure out another way to get what they want. It's only a matter of time before they realize that all Americans get their internet through the same handful of ISP's and will wield their power to coerce these providers to ban sites that facilitate illegal activity (and yes, if they want to make online gambling illegal, they will eventually change the letter of the law to make online poker illegal), and it all comes to a head.Now, while I don't fully agree with the current witch hunt or movement to ban online gambling, I also see where this is heading. I also see some merits in the movement, granted that there are some selfish agendas and poor reasoning involved as well. AFter all, most states ban or have limits on gambling, and there is no real way to regulate or tax an overseas website with which people do commercial business. Also, gambling problems are bad enough in casinos: imagine how much the problems compound when people can do it in their living room.You can disagree with me, and we can all just sit back and hope for the best... or you can find out who your Congressperson is and tell someone that can actually do something about the direction this is all heading, though to be Dr Doom the Donk again, given the legislation was nearly unanimously bipartisan, I'm not sure how much that'll help matters, but it's worth a shot if you live in the States and online play is a big part of your life.The issue of relating online play to live play is another one entirely, and one we can discuss if you seem willing. I take a lot of flack from you, Zach, so I think you can take a little bit here: I notice that you have curiously little to say about your own live playing experiences. I'm not going to openly imply anything from that, but you can fill in the blanks. For one who insists that the two venues of play are not at all different, it's strange that the ratio of your online expertise is rather large compared to your stated B&M experience.While it'd be easy to fall back to the familiar alibi of 'online is convenient, B&M is not,'... one also has to realize that you don't have to go through Neteller or a 3rd party to get your money when you win in live play. Right now, there are a lot of people whose winnings are in limbo, and it's dubious whether or not they'll ever see those winnings cashed out. Stories of struggles with getting said money are all over these Forums.It's kinda fresh for someone to come and tell us that live play isn't worth it because you can't make as much money online... when we're already at a point where the money people have online is stuck in limbo, difficult to access at best and for many, inaccessible. At some point, it might as well be play-money for all you'll be able to do with it.I may not roll $50K at a 12/24 table, but if I'm up after a session, I can go to the casino cage, cash my chips out and take my money with me right then and there. Can an online player do that right now?
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