Balloon guy, on Tuesday, August 9th, 2011, 1:30 PM, said:
Heard on the radio today that our new governor has passed a deal where ALL the electoral college votes in California will now go to which ever candidate has the most popular votes across the nation.Yea, no reason to make California matter at all. Candidates can now skip California, they only get those 55 electoral college votes if they get the popular vote.This is an attempt to change the constitution without changing the constitution in the manner the constitution allowed.Gotta love democrats willing to ignore the constitution when it gets in the way of their plans.
Gotta love republicans, never actually reading the constitution but thinking it always supports their side: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
(Article 2, Clause 2)So, we can choose them by whatever method we choose. But the bill is interesting, it's not just california, there's a group of states that would buy in to the same system, and the idea is that eventually they all would.
LongLiveYorke, on Tuesday, August 9th, 2011, 1:41 PM, said:
Can't the guy who votes in the "electoral college" just, in the end, vote for whoever he wants regardless of what the people say?
Balloon guy, on Tuesday, August 9th, 2011, 1:49 PM, said:
I don't think so. They are required to follow the rules that their state gives them. Some states require all votes to go to whichever candidate wins the state, some states split the votes based on the voting precinct results.I don't think I've ever heard of an electoral college vote going contrary to their prescribed policy.
Yes they can, although they may be punished by their state for doing so. It has happened before, they are called "faithless electors". http://en.wikipedia....ithless_elector
mrdannyg, on Tuesday, August 9th, 2011, 2:58 PM, said:
If someone had told me that some states do it one way and some do it another, I would have told them they must be confused, because no voting system could ever be so ridiculous as to not have this consistent one way or the other.I believe everything that BG says, so I'm not even going to look that up.Really though? The votes in states are divided differently? That seems absolutely insane.
mrdannyg, on Wednesday, August 10th, 2011, 5:51 AM, said:
Thanks for this. I reiterate that it is absolutely insane that every state doesn't do it the same way. It is possibly more insane that individual states have the option to change it. I thought you were the UNITED States! Ohhhh snap.
Why is it "insane" for states to be allowed to choose their electors how they wish to? We are a federation of states...