fleung22 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 hello boys and girls,so it's interesting how Royal Tour was actually right for once. Macau's poker community is really growing. If you read my previous thread a while back then you know that I was playing these PokerPro machines at Star World and it was like the speed of online but in a live setting.Strangely enough it wasn't an American casino such as the Venetian, Wynn or MGM that introduced live poker...it was the infamous Stanley Ho's new Grand Lisboa.So after hearing a brazillion complaints about how slow the live games are and how the dealers are misdealing and inconsistent with rules the players all slowly gravitated to Lisboa and the true live game.The rake is definitely better at Lisboa and it has the usual surroundings of a Sports Betting area and Craps but frankly, I tried to hold onto the PokerPro for as long as I could. The sheer amount of hands I was getting was AWESOME.The bigger games seem to have grown every 4-6 weeks as well. The biggest game used to be 10-20 HKD, then 25-50 and now there's 50-100.Games are sickly soft and every single one of my Toronto FCP brothers would kill the games. Everyone except for Teddy of course :PAnyways, after seeing the game grow exponentially in terms of players there's obviously a market for it. It's not just expats either. There are plenty of weathy chinamen who are just sick of playing baccarat. They want to buy in for 30k because they're just used to making big bets. It's more of this rather than skill that drives the big games.I've changed my resume to focus solely on a job in the poker industry now. Downfall will be that I can't play in the casino I work for but I don't think I'm cut out to go pro for the long haul. I just don't have the discipline to play my A-game 50 weeks a year for the rest of my life. After killing the game in February I feel like my focus is already slipping. I'll play great one day and then sloppy the next.Anyhow, I was thinking that if I could design the perfect poker setting it would be a combination of the Bellagio and Venetian in Vegas. An area actually set aside for poker as well as tournaments. Also, I'd want to have a room specifically for the big game like Bobby's room and have it endorsed by a big name pro...for example, Johnny Chan since he's Chinese and well...we are in the Far East.Wouldn't you know it. I just saw Johnny Chan in the Lisboa poker area 2 weeks ago. He didn't play...I'd imagine the stakes are wayyyy to small for him but he spent quite a bit of time just watching the action with his wife. A few guys went to shake his hand but Johnny made it obvious he didn't want attention. I had a similar experience during the wsop in 2006 so I didn't even bother.I spoke with the floor managers and asked if Chan was here on business they seemed convinced that he was just here on vacation and was more interested in other VIP gaming. They didn't say which game but I've heard he's a fan of Pai Gow.That's my little update for poker in Macau for now (hey, that rhymes!) :)For my Canadian FCPers...I am doing a 3-city tour right now.Probably be at Vancouver's RiverRock cardroom on March 26 from about 11 am to early evening. Whether I get another chance to visit the 604's finest again is unknown.On March 29th I'm heading back to Toronto for an unknown period of time. Party at the Fox & Firkin on John/Adelaide that night begining at 8 pm. I'll probably support the cash game in west GTA and also throw a small tournament. If you're on my facebook poker group (fcp-x) you'll get an invite for the tournament. Look for the Super Spanky Special IIIHope the rest of FCP crews down south are doing good as well.Take care, B) fleung22 Link to post Share on other sites
gatortom64 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Good read & Have fun!!! Nice to see you are still alive!! Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Sounds like the good ole days of poker over there, enjoy it while you can. Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Sending this thread to Derek, we've been debating the legitimacy of playing in Macau. Actually, more the well-being of players in Macau.Fred, do you know how much (if at all) of an influence the Triads have in the casinos in Macau? When me and Derek were discussing this, he was saying that Macau now = very similar to Vegas back when the Mafia had a huge stake in the city.But then I know jack about Macau, so I'll go to you in the field for the report. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Sending this thread to Derek, we've been debating the legitimacy of playing in Macau. Actually, more the well-being of players in Macau.Fred, do you know how much (if at all) of an influence the Triads have in the casinos in Macau? When me and Derek were discussing this, he was saying that Macau now = very similar to Vegas back when the Mafia had a huge stake in the city.But then I know jack about Macau, so I'll go to you in the field for the report.If you're actually in Macau and bring up the word "triad" everyone will pretty much pretend like they didn't hear anything.As recent as 1998 this island was still pretty bad. I mean, at the end of the day it's just business and the triads just "tax" you as a casino. Unfortunately, you'd have your bad "employees" and blood would get spilt on the streets. I remember my visit in 1999...a nail bomb kill a triad leader, his body guard and injured 20 people on the street.In more recent years (we'll say post 2005) it's much much better. The american casinos bring a new breed of businesses here and how is the triad gonna touch a corporation of stock holders and execs? There isn't exactly a single owner like Stanley Ho in previous decades.Yeah, there's been some mysterious "jumpings" from the Sands and a few other deaths but I don't think it's out of character for a world of gambling and sex. There's gonna be gambling problems, loan sharks and muscle to collect. Either collect money or your life. The mainstay for triad cash is definitely the sex industry but if Mr. Happy is happy then the triads are happy because dat meen yew pahy munee mista!I don't think there's anything to worry about.Stay in big shiny hotels and shuttles...go to the high end saunas...you'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 If you're actually in Macau and bring up the word "triad" everyone will pretty much pretend like they didn't hear anything.As recent as 1998 this island was still pretty bad. I mean, at the end of the day it's just business and the triads just "tax" you as a casino. Unfortunately, you'd have your bad "employees" and blood would get spilt on the streets. I remember my visit in 1999...a nail bomb kill a triad leader, his body guard and injured 20 people on the street.In more recent years (we'll say post 2005) it's much much better. The american casinos bring a new breed of businesses here and how is the triad gonna touch a corporation of stock holders and execs? There isn't exactly a single owner like Stanley Ho in previous decades.Yeah, there's been some mysterious "jumpings" from the Sands and a few other deaths but I don't think it's out of character for a world of gambling and sex. There's gonna be gambling problems, loan sharks and muscle to collect. Either collect money or your life. The mainstay for triad cash is definitely the sex industry but if Mr. Happy is happy then the triads are happy because dat meen yew pahy munee mista!I don't think there's anything to worry about.Stay in big shiny hotels and shuttles...go to the high end saunas...you'll be fine.There we go, definitely sending this thread to Derek now.I definitely appreciate this response. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 so it's interesting how Royal Tour was actually right for once.Even if I stopped reading here: This thread delivers! Link to post Share on other sites
Ex_Matt 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Fred: I'm not on your facebook group but I'm interested in playing in a tourney if you have seats open. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Fred good to hear from you..I look forward to seeing you at your game when you are back in town...Maybe we can also a get another FCP golf outing going, if this snow ever melts... Link to post Share on other sites
albertoflamingo 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 dat meen yew pahy munee mista!lol wp. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Yo Freddy,Do you mean the Fox and Fiddle on John/Adelaide? or is there another bar there I'm not sure of?Stay longer for a month so I can play poker with you again you crazy nutcase. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 so it's interesting how Royal Tour was actually right for once.funny, i'll bet you can find these exact words several times over in these forums. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 funny, i'll bet you can find these exact words several times over in these forums.I'm not sure if that's a brag or a beat for you.I mean think about it. If people say that over and over again, it means that you're constantly wrong and still surprise people when you get things right Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I'm not sure if that's a brag or a beat for you.I mean think about it. If people say that over and over again, it means that you're constantly wrong and still surprise people when you get things right no, it means people try and use it as a witty burn. but i'm always right. so its never funny. Only to those handful who say it, is it funny. :)I like turtles. Link to post Share on other sites
a__thekevlar__2 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 are you allowed to feed the asians? Link to post Share on other sites
tuckermitchell 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 are you allowed to feed the asians?wp Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 are you allowed to feed the asians?No, but you can always tap on the glass, since they don't understand what you're doing anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 There we go, definitely sending this thread to Derek now.I definitely appreciate this response.np I admit to have watched one too many triad movies myself.it's like any other place in the US. when you're in LA don't visit Compton. when you're in Vegas don't wander Freemont by yourself at night.when you're in Macau stay away from places that look scary. if you're into the gambling, entertainment and sex though...it's all in the same area and loaded with tourists, cops and security.the Macau government has worked hard to remove those worries in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Yo Freddy,Do you mean the Fox and Fiddle on John/Adelaide? or is there another bar there I'm not sure of?Stay longer for a month so I can play poker with you again you crazy nutcase.dude, I sent you an invite with the exact address. YES...THAT ONE YOU DONK!!god, I miss ya teddy :)we'll play some cards whenever you like buddy. just lemme know. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Fred good to hear from you..I look forward to seeing you at your game when you are back in town...Maybe we can also a get another FCP golf outing going, if this snow ever melts...ya, would be great to see ya serge. glad to see you're keeping the hockey forum alive.golf is possible but I warn you that I've been sucking arse big time. golfed twice in China and after adding my score I just told people I had a pretty good day bowling.see if you can make it out on saturday. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Fred: I'm not on your facebook group but I'm interested in playing in a tourney if you have seats open.matt, lemme confirm the tournament and place first. I'm sick of crowded tables so I'm probably gonna limit it to 8 players per table.if it's 2-tables then I'm gonna offer the seats to players who have come out before. I'm all about loyalty. if it's 3-tables then I'll open it to the entire fcp-x and whoever.no worries, I'll only give the loyalty card for 2 days. most of these mofos are slow to register so you should be fine if you're around the forum.plus you know teddy so that's kind've a plus...kind've Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 funny, i'll bet you can find these exact words several times over in these forums.you're actually right for once Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 dude, I sent you an invite with the exact address. YES...THAT ONE YOU DONK!!god, I miss ya teddy :)we'll play some cards whenever you like buddy. just lemme know.lol, you wrote fox and firkin on your post :PI haven't played since Feb and won't be playing till after exams, so if you can make it after the 18th If you aren't here that long don't worry about it.Mitch are you going on Sat? Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 lol, you wrote fox and firkin on your post :PI haven't played since Feb and won't be playing till after exams, so if you can make it after the 18th If you aren't here that long don't worry about it.Mitch are you going on Sat?oh right, I'm thinking in chinese gimme a break...but the FB invite was correct.woah..."no" poker!? not even like for one night?? what kind of nazi-ass school you going to?also, isn't Mitch in Vegas or something? Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 lol, you wrote fox and firkin on your post :PI haven't played since Feb and won't be playing till after exams, so if you can make it after the 18th If you aren't here that long don't worry about it.Mitch are you going on Sat? oh right, I'm thinking in chinese gimme a break...but the FB invite was correct.woah..."no" poker!? not even like for one night?? what kind of nazi-ass school you going to?also, isn't Mitch in Vegas or something?Teddy, I didnt get an invite cuz fred is a jerkstore.Fred, I'm back in Ontario (toronto)also, I cant play saturday, but i am playing in a 70 man 100 buyin on sunday. if anyone wants to come let meknow. Link to post Share on other sites
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